Apple in the Enterprise Part 2

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Byte of the Apple is asking some important questions



Byte of the Apple



No exec to head up the enterprise sales group...so where does that leave Apple now. Great products, but not enough traction.



This is where IBM could come in quite handy. One of the main criticisms of Apple push into corporations is support. Where is the special unit dedicated to large account tech support. Big accounts demand knowledeable and always availible support. Apple's limited Applecare is not enough. IBM's servicec division could step in and fill in the blanks until Apple gets the program established, in a super partnership. IBM already has the respect Apple needs to succeed.



The g5 Xserves are waiting for some customers. Who is going to get them there?



Looking at the recent/potential announcements on tap for the rest of the year the time is right:



1. ichat/isight = cheap video conferencing

2. powerbook g5's

3. 64-bit consumer desktops? (maybe imacs)

4. faster powermacs (already Apple is one of the largest 64-bit machine sellers)

5. More open source projects
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  • Reply 1 of 40
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    Hopefully the launch of Oracle 10g will mean a co-marketing effort by Apple and Oracle in the same way that Oracle partnered with Red Hat and Sun.
  • Reply 2 of 40
    Apple needs to fill the vacancy left by Sebastian Gunningham's departure in a convincing way. His departure, itself, is not necessarily a reflection of Apple's enterprise fortunes. Most VP's would consider a CEO job appealing.



    Quoting from Jade's Link:
    Quote:

    Apple needs a visible sales boss to energize the troops and close bigger deals. It needs to offer better guarantees to potential customers. And it needs to give corporate IT departments a reason to believe that the Mac folks know big business just like the people at Dell, HP, or IBM.



    That's a sizable cultural shift, but a necessary one if Apple hopes to play in the competitive corporate-computing market. Now is the time to move.



    Indeed, now is the time to make some moves for Apple. Jade's "Super Partnership" with IBM seems to be the best of all possible moves.
  • Reply 3 of 40
    othelloothello Posts: 1,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    Hopefully the launch of Oracle 10g will mean a co-marketing effort by Apple and Oracle in the same way that Oracle partnered with Red Hat and Sun.



    well macnn reported this:



    Novell will offer Mac support with the version 6.5 of its GroupWise Cross-Platform client, which will ship with the upcoming GroupWise 6.5 for Linux, according to Novell representatives. Due "in a month or two," it will require Mac OS X.3 and JVM 1.4.2. Other features of the release include multi-user and multi-session support, integrated zip/pdf tools, integration with antivirus software, user-definied startup attributes, integrated SMS messaging, logging, address book import/export, and SSL security for sending and receiving messages. The GroupWise Cross-platform Client is now in Extended Authorized Beta.



    now THAT is a big thing for enterprise clients
  • Reply 4 of 40
    Bring in Elisson...wouldnt it be nice? Hey, he did step down as CEO or Oracle...Nah, it'll never happen.\
  • Reply 5 of 40
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    Hopefully the launch of Oracle 10g will mean a co-marketing effort by Apple and Oracle in the same way that Oracle partnered with Red Hat and Sun.



    Except that Oracle did not launch an OS X version of 10g and Apple isn't interested in pormoting products for Linux or Windows.
  • Reply 6 of 40
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Messiahtosh

    Bring in Elisson...wouldnt it be nice? Hey, he did step down as CEO or Oracle...Nah, it'll never happen.\



    Ellison?! His ego would never allow him to be anything other than a CEO.



    It shouldn't be that hard for Apple to attract a good veep. That columnist is hardly the only person to notice that Cupertino has a good thing going, and the chance to grow it - rather than just taking over the reins - should attract talent.
  • Reply 7 of 40
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Tomb of the Unknown

    Except that Oracle did not launch an OS X version of 10g and Apple isn't interested in pormoting products for Linux or Windows.



    Uhm, it's a well known fact that Oracle 10g will be released for Mac OS X. 10g for different platforms are starting to appear now (only three available for now).
  • Reply 8 of 40
    Forget Oracle, bring on the industry standard DB2...



    But in all seriousness, I think corporate America will start taking notice of Apple when Apple starts getting closer to Intel in Mhz. Intel's at 3.2 now? Apple/IBM will be at 3.0 later this summer. Apple also needs an Exchange server on MacOS X server or a replacement to Exchange.
  • Reply 9 of 40
    jadejade Posts: 379member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Leonard

    Forget Oracle, bring on the industry standard DB2...



    But in all seriousness, I think corporate America will start taking notice of Apple when Apple starts getting closer to Intel in Mhz. Intel's at 3.2 now? Apple/IBM will be at 3.0 later this summer. Apple also needs an Exchange server on MacOS X server or a replacement to Exchange.






    Full exchange support on OS X is more important than an exchange killer. Exchange is far too entrenched at this point.



    But Apple will need the corporate support to grow marketshare. Most people but the computer they use at work: Dell, HP, whatever. If they don;t see it at work...people don't think it will communicate with work or that people use it.
  • Reply 10 of 40
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Messiahtosh

    Bring in Elisson...wouldnt it be nice? Hey, he did step down as CEO or Oracle...Nah, it'll never happen.\



    ellison is an an utter egomanic asshole.
  • Reply 11 of 40
    talksense101talksense101 Posts: 1,737member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by [email protected]

    ellison is an an utter egomanic asshole.



    Steve Jobs has been called worser things.
  • Reply 12 of 40
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by talksense101

    Steve Jobs has been called worser things.



    And that was by his friends...
  • Reply 13 of 40
    ti fighterti fighter Posts: 863member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by jade

    Big accounts demand knowledeable and always availible support. Apple's limited Applecare is not enough. IBM's servicec division could step in and fill in the blanks until Apple gets the program established, in a super partnership. IBM already has the respect Apple needs to succeed.





    Well my friend works for a very big company here in NYC who is owned by one of the biggest and they have IBM as their tech support. They still are not allowed to have OSX on there computers cuz IBM does not support it. They are still buying g4 machines made just for them that are running 9.
  • Reply 14 of 40
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    Uhm, it's a well known fact that Oracle 10g will be released for Mac OS X.



    Really? When is the release date? Seriously, I'd like to know. Oracle hasn't released a peep yet. Some folks are wondering if we'll see 9i for Mac OS X before we ever see 10g.
  • Reply 15 of 40
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Tomb of the Unknown

    Except that Oracle did not launch an OS X version of 10g and Apple isn't interested in pormoting products for Linux or Windows.



    You stompin on OS X Server, which IS a product for Linux/Windows.



    -walloo.
  • Reply 16 of 40
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Tomb of the Unknown

    Really? When is the release date? Seriously, I'd like to know. Oracle hasn't released a peep yet. Some folks are wondering if we'll see 9i for Mac OS X before we ever see 10g.



    I have no firm release date, but they are releasing them now. They already released 10g for Linux x86, Solaris, HP-UX, AIX5L and the Tru64 version is about to be released (notice no Windows version yet either).



    You won't see new 9i releases for Mac OS X.
  • Reply 17 of 40
    dstranathandstranathan Posts: 1,715member
    2 new goodies that will help:







    1) Xserve RAID + Candera SANs



    They partnered with Apple for SAN/nearline storage and provisioning tools. Clients include Apple (ALL of Apple's corporate and Internet XServes use it) and the CIA to name a few.



    www.Candera.com





    2) Exabyte LTO auto-loader:



    rackmount

    1 u thick

    11 LTO tapes per loader (100 GB per tape)

    1394 (Firewire) I/O



    (not shown on their site yet, but it will be out SOON)



    Apple went to THEM and asked to build this! And they complied.

    www.exabyte.com



    http://www.apple.com/xserve/raid/certifications.html
  • Reply 18 of 40
    dstranathandstranathan Posts: 1,715member
    RE: Exchange client:



    It MUST do these things:



    Work without crashing. (No. Really)

    Connect and display corporate GALs properly. Entourage does NOT.

    Support calendars and schedualing. I mean really do it right.

    Work seemless with PCs.

    Render html mail (remember Outlook 2001?)

    Security: Work with Acitve Directory and Exchange servers properly with things like forced user password changes, policies etc. Entourage does NOT work right.

    Support .PST files damnit. Entourage does NOT. Deal killer.
  • Reply 19 of 40
    Quote:

    Originally posted by willywalloo

    You stompin on OS X Server, which IS a product for Linux/Windows.



    -walloo.




    What are you talking about?
  • Reply 20 of 40
    rhumgodrhumgod Posts: 1,289member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dstranathan

    RE: Exchange client:



    It MUST do these things:



    Work without crashing. (No. Really)

    Connect and display corporate GALs properly. Entourage does NOT.

    Support calendars and schedualing. I mean really do it right.

    Work seemless with PCs.

    Render html mail (remember Outlook 2001?)

    Security: Work with Acitve Directory and Exchange servers properly with things like forced user password changes, policies etc. Entourage does NOT work right.

    Support .PST files damnit. Entourage does NOT. Deal killer.




    I've given up on Microsoft to give us this solution. Office 2004 won't have them. Apple's Mail works good, except GALs and scheduling, but I use Snerdware's products for those features.
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