I just bought the Sony DSC-T1 and absolutely love it! My wife and I have taken indoor and outdoor (no bright sun yet, after all this is Seattle) and have been very pleased with the results. Only downsides I can come up with is that the flash isn't really powerful (this is a "credit-card" camera after all) and flash placement leads to a bit of red-eye, however, that is easily remedied in most Photo apps.
Of course, you may want an SLR, but if you want a pretty powerful non-SLR with the bonus of small size, which means you're more likely to have it with you for that unexpected shot, then I highly recommend this camera.
You're attempting to focus light onto a physically smaller area in a 4/3rds image sensor. The larger the sensor, the easier it is for the glass to focus light onto it. Note that 4/3 refers to the sensor size and not the aspect ratio, which is 4:3 by coincidence.
I'm not trying to be an a$$, i'm really grateful for your help, since i wouldn't like to spend $$ on something i won't be 100% happy with.
I thought because lens mount size in relation to sensor's size, distance from the lens to the sensor and the lens optics in 4/3 systems, sensor is being hit by light at 90 degree angle all around, while in 'standard" DSLRs light is 90 degrees in the center, and then around the edges the angle is considerably smaller, which in theory is not perfect for a sensor (as opposed to standard film).
I guess i'm reading too much of that marketing BS :-)
I thought because lens mount size in relation to sensor's size, distance from the lens to the sensor and the lens optics in 4/3 systems, sensor is being hit by light at 90 degree angle all around, while in 'standard" DSLRs light is 90 degrees in the center, and then around the edges the angle is considerably smaller, which in theory is not perfect for a sensor (as opposed to standard film).
Think about how small an aperture you can get with any lens compared with the size of the image sensor. How can light enter in through a pinhole completely perpendicular and cover the entire image sensor area? Camera lenses work just like your eyes. Light that comes from up top hits the sensor at the bottom and vice-versa.
Think about how small an aperture you can get with any lens compared with the size of the image sensor. How can light enter in through a pinhole completely perpendicular and cover the entire image sensor area? Camera lenses work just like your eyes. Light that comes from up top hits the sensor at the bottom and vice-versa.
That's the function of the lens itself, not because of the size of the sensor or anything. I'd bet the Sigma lenses and other third party lenses won't have something like that. If Nikon chose to make its DX lenses like that, they could.
The problem with bending light like that in a lens is that it requires more glass elements. Ideally you want as few elements as possible to cut down of flare and resolution loss.
I was asking myself very similar questions about 3 months ago and ended up going for a Canon Powershot S30, which I got a good deal on second-hand. I've been very impressed with this camera; the clarity of the pictures has been excellent. A friend who's only experience with cameras is "point-n-click" took it on a trip to Europe and came back with some absolutely stunning shots. So yes, it does take good quality photos easily in most conditions and there are enough manual controls and features to satisfy the average amature. I think the Powershot cameras are aimed specifically at your kind of wants/requirements. If a friend was buying, I wouldn't hesitate to reccomend a powershot to them. It's a good size, a bit bulkier than the "credit card" cameras but I prefer something that you can hold with your hand rather than grasp with your fingertips (oh my, this could be read onother way)
I have been looking at cameras as well, mostly the small compact field and a price class of about 350e. I want both to point and shoot, and to learn about photography in general. One thing I'd want the camera do especially well is night shots without flash - city scenes, parties with funky lighting, etc.
Canon Digital Ixus 400 (aka Powershot S400) seems a good camera, only I see it has no manual focus adjustment.. how important is this feature?
I have just bought the Leica Digilux 2, and I can say that it is the nearest thing to a real camera. I didn't like the Cannon because it is so huge, not that the Leica is small.
I am satisfied with the quality of the pictures and do not regret buying it, it does look cool. As you are used to a real camera you will love the flexibility of control the camera offers. SP or AP or fully manual or fully automatic.
That's the function of the lens itself, not because of the size of the sensor or anything. I'd bet the Sigma lenses and other third party lenses won't have something like that. If Nikon chose to make its DX lenses like that, they could.
The problem with bending light like that in a lens is that it requires more glass elements. Ideally you want as few elements as possible to cut down of flare and resolution loss.
I think Canon is starting to move in similar direction with their EF-S lenses. So far the only camera that can use them is Rebel, but i guess new models will be compatible as well.
There are 3 lenses from Sigma designed for 4/3, and olympus will introduce 4 or 5 new ones this year.
I'm really torn between 10d and E1
Advantages of E1:
- smaller, more compact.
- 12 images in a shot regardless of quality setting
- build quality
- sealed body
- dust removing mechanism
- great W/B and colour reproduction
- FireWire
- minimal barrel distortion (and this is not only function of the lens, but processing done to the image by the camera based on data received from the lens)
Advantages of 10d
- more glass to choose from, but then again i really only need 2-3 now, and they are available for E1, but still good to have hundreds to choose from
- less noise at higher ISO (but since i have never used anything above 800, how will that effect me?)
- more auto-focus points
- a bit cheaper body and glass is cheaper as well
- faster auto-focus
- Image Stabilization available on many lenses
- 1 MP difference (not really when one considers cropping to fit A4 or letter), plus both Canon's and Nikon's more pro camera are 4MP
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Of course, you may want an SLR, but if you want a pretty powerful non-SLR with the bonus of small size, which means you're more likely to have it with you for that unexpected shot, then I highly recommend this camera.
Good luck!
You're attempting to focus light onto a physically smaller area in a 4/3rds image sensor. The larger the sensor, the easier it is for the glass to focus light onto it. Note that 4/3 refers to the sensor size and not the aspect ratio, which is 4:3 by coincidence.
I'm not trying to be an a$$, i'm really grateful for your help, since i wouldn't like to spend $$ on something i won't be 100% happy with.
I thought because lens mount size in relation to sensor's size, distance from the lens to the sensor and the lens optics in 4/3 systems, sensor is being hit by light at 90 degree angle all around, while in 'standard" DSLRs light is 90 degrees in the center, and then around the edges the angle is considerably smaller, which in theory is not perfect for a sensor (as opposed to standard film).
I guess i'm reading too much of that marketing BS :-)
Originally posted by piwozniak
I thought because lens mount size in relation to sensor's size, distance from the lens to the sensor and the lens optics in 4/3 systems, sensor is being hit by light at 90 degree angle all around, while in 'standard" DSLRs light is 90 degrees in the center, and then around the edges the angle is considerably smaller, which in theory is not perfect for a sensor (as opposed to standard film).
Think about how small an aperture you can get with any lens compared with the size of the image sensor. How can light enter in through a pinhole completely perpendicular and cover the entire image sensor area? Camera lenses work just like your eyes. Light that comes from up top hits the sensor at the bottom and vice-versa.
Originally posted by Eugene
Think about how small an aperture you can get with any lens compared with the size of the image sensor. How can light enter in through a pinhole completely perpendicular and cover the entire image sensor area? Camera lenses work just like your eyes. Light that comes from up top hits the sensor at the bottom and vice-versa.
Here, i found it:
Here's the interesting review:
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If you would find a minute i would really appreciate your comments.
Thanks Eugene
The problem with bending light like that in a lens is that it requires more glass elements. Ideally you want as few elements as possible to cut down of flare and resolution loss.
I was asking myself very similar questions about 3 months ago and ended up going for a Canon Powershot S30, which I got a good deal on second-hand. I've been very impressed with this camera; the clarity of the pictures has been excellent. A friend who's only experience with cameras is "point-n-click" took it on a trip to Europe and came back with some absolutely stunning shots. So yes, it does take good quality photos easily in most conditions and there are enough manual controls and features to satisfy the average amature. I think the Powershot cameras are aimed specifically at your kind of wants/requirements. If a friend was buying, I wouldn't hesitate to reccomend a powershot to them. It's a good size, a bit bulkier than the "credit card" cameras but I prefer something that you can hold with your hand rather than grasp with your fingertips (oh my, this could be read onother way)
Canon Digital Ixus 400 (aka Powershot S400) seems a good camera, only I see it has no manual focus adjustment.. how important is this feature?
Another one I've looked at is Casio EXILIM EX-Z4.
I am satisfied with the quality of the pictures and do not regret buying it, it does look cool. As you are used to a real camera you will love the flexibility of control the camera offers. SP or AP or fully manual or fully automatic.
Originally posted by Eugene
That's the function of the lens itself, not because of the size of the sensor or anything. I'd bet the Sigma lenses and other third party lenses won't have something like that. If Nikon chose to make its DX lenses like that, they could.
The problem with bending light like that in a lens is that it requires more glass elements. Ideally you want as few elements as possible to cut down of flare and resolution loss.
I think Canon is starting to move in similar direction with their EF-S lenses. So far the only camera that can use them is Rebel, but i guess new models will be compatible as well.
There are 3 lenses from Sigma designed for 4/3, and olympus will introduce 4 or 5 new ones this year.
I'm really torn between 10d and E1
Advantages of E1:
- smaller, more compact.
- 12 images in a shot regardless of quality setting
- build quality
- sealed body
- dust removing mechanism
- great W/B and colour reproduction
- FireWire
- minimal barrel distortion (and this is not only function of the lens, but processing done to the image by the camera based on data received from the lens)
Advantages of 10d
- more glass to choose from, but then again i really only need 2-3 now, and they are available for E1, but still good to have hundreds to choose from
- less noise at higher ISO (but since i have never used anything above 800, how will that effect me?)
- more auto-focus points
- a bit cheaper body and glass is cheaper as well
- faster auto-focus
- Image Stabilization available on many lenses
- 1 MP difference (not really when one considers cropping to fit A4 or letter), plus both Canon's and Nikon's more pro camera are 4MP
Tough choice.