Democrats in their own words
http://www.warroom.com/democratquotes.htm
It should be clear to everyone what the Democratic party has become and how John Kerry is the epitome of it. The pary insiders and special interests silenced Dean and other critiques and now have put a candidate up that is Bush without the idiotic Bushisms. You aren't getting real choice or change with a Democrat.
A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Bush and a corrupt two-party system ruled by special interests. John Kerry is not going to bring our troops home. He's not going to take a neutral position with respect to Israel and go after the root of why Islamic fundamentalism is in vogue.
The differences between Bush and Kerry are in degree, not in kind.
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Quote:
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
It should be clear to everyone what the Democratic party has become and how John Kerry is the epitome of it. The pary insiders and special interests silenced Dean and other critiques and now have put a candidate up that is Bush without the idiotic Bushisms. You aren't getting real choice or change with a Democrat.
A vote for John Kerry is a vote for Bush and a corrupt two-party system ruled by special interests. John Kerry is not going to bring our troops home. He's not going to take a neutral position with respect to Israel and go after the root of why Islamic fundamentalism is in vogue.
The differences between Bush and Kerry are in degree, not in kind.
www.votenader.org
Comments
Originally posted by chu_bakka
A vote for Nader is a vote for Bush.
Boy am I glad he's running then!
Originally posted by billybobsky
Nader is the official douche bag of the twenty-first century. Congratulations Nader -- Rod, what has he won?
Can I just reiterate that
and also point out to you, existence, that your too-long-lasting little tantrum after Dean's loss is truly regrettable . . . aaand stupid.
And if there are a bunch of little tantrum children of voting age scattered throughout the Vermont and Oregon and Boulder etc college systems that are going to vote for Nadar in some kind of spent but 'passionate' hissy fit then are country is SCREWWWWED!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Existence
A vote for Kerry is a vote for Bush. There is no difference.
You profoundly have your little head up your ass!
No wonder 50% of the public doesn't vote.
The system gives the illusion of choice where there is none. In 2000, 69% of people wanted Nader in the debates yet Gore refused to go any debate with Nader. You call yourselves Democrats.
Originally posted by Existence
It's interesting that no one is defending Kerry or the Democrats. Instead, you all are just imposing group-think on me so I fall in line regardless of how aweful, hypocritical and Bush-like Kerry is. It's a same old arguments of how Kerry is somewhow the lesser of the two evils.
No wonder 50% of the public doesn't vote.
The system gives the illusion of choice where there is none. In 2000, 69% of people wanted Nader in the debates yet Gore refused to go any debate with Nader. You call yourselves Democrats.
I don't see Kerry trying to turn America into a theocracy. That's good enough for me at this point.
Let's do some math...
BUSH
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin
Big Spender
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Kerry
Wore a uniform
KERRY
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin
Big Spender
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Bush
Wore a uniform
None of these are a matter of opinion.
I personally don't dig him, but Nadar IS different...
Originally posted by BR
I don't see Kerry trying to turn America into a theocracy. That's good enough for me at this point.
Comrade... Under the communists, the government WAS the religion.
Such is Kerry and his socialist vision for America...
Originally posted by Jubelum
Comrade... Under the communists, the government WAS the religion.
Such is Kerry and his socialist vision for America...
However, communism != socalism
Originally posted by faust9
However, communism != socalism
True. Let me correct that:
Kerry's LEFTIST vision for America...
Originally posted by Jubelum
Bush = Kerry?
Let's do some math...
BUSH
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin
Big Spender
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Kerry
Wore a uniform
KERRY
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin
Big Spender
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Bush
Wore a uniform
None of these are a matter of opinion.
I personally don't dig him, but Nadar IS different...
This is a red herring response though because the comparisons are superficial.
BUSH
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin--Doesn't mention his true origins
Big Spender--But run on a conservative platform
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Kerry
Wore a uniform--and hide out with the national guard (the guard of yester year was not the guard of today).
KERRY
Yale Grad
Skull&Bones
Northeast Origin--Doesn't hide is Mass. Liberal upbringing
Big Spender--Also a big taxer to cover the spending. Rember, republicans are democrats except republicans don't like to pay taxes.
Priviliged Upbringing
Related to Bush
Wore a uniform--and saw combat. He could have took the silver spoon route, but choose not to.
When you compare the two past a superficial level, ther are some drastic differences. Bush wears religion on his sleave to garner the support of the religous right, Kerry doesn't. Kerry believes in running smaller defecits. Kerry believes the tax code is a means of bettering society... There are a lot of differences besides: They both vacation in DC, wear blue suits, have slick speach writers.
Originally posted by Jubelum
True. Let me correct that:
Kerry's LEFTIST vision for America...
Polar opposite to Bush's Right Wing Big Brother society. You don't win an election with: "Yeah he and I are are the same, but I look better." You win elections by running on a platform opposite that of your opponent.
Originally posted by faust9
Rember, republicans are democrats
Consider my case made.
(Hows that for out-of-context)
faust, my simple goal was to point out how much these two men have in common... they are not light years apart. You think Kerry is NOT Bush-lite? Cool. Wanna vote for Kerry, be my guest. I personally am happy to be in the 50% non-voting population at this point. All three candidates have some good ideas... nothing yet have I seen to get me to the polls.
Originally posted by faust9
You win elections by running on a platform opposite that of your opponent.
Someone please tell Kerry that. 8)
Originally posted by Jubelum
Someone please tell Kerry that. 8)
Maybe he should have A platform. How about we start there first.