iBook 700 12" VS. PB 667 DVI

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
OK.... I want to put together a comprehensive list of the differences between the two...:

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iBook | PowerBook

G3-700-Sahara G4-667-7455, low power

512 L2 @ 700 256 L2 @ ????

0 L3 @ N/A 1 MB L3 @ ????

128 Ram @ 100 256 Ram @ 133

16MB Radeon-M DDR 32MB Radeon 7500

12.1 @ 1024X768 15.2 @ 1280X854

4.9 lbs 5.4 lbs

1.3 in 1 in

20 Gig, 4200 60 Gig, 5400

Combo 8/8/24 Combo 8/8/24-slot load

Video Mirroring Video Spanning

VGA/composite adapters DVI output, VGA adapter

10/100 10/100/1000

Airport Airport

Base Station Base Station

Appleworks v.6? Firefly 5GB drive

Option for $399 iPod Option for $399 iPod

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~~$1800 ~~$3100

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What other software comes with each setup? can someone fill in the ?s and anything else missing from the list?



which is the better deal?



thnx...



-Paul



[ 05-24-2002: Message edited by: Paul ]</p>

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 14
    brunobruinbrunobruin Posts: 552member
    The iBook comes with a consumer-oriented software package, with things like AppleWorks and games. The Ti doesn't have those but comes with things like Graphic Converter, Art Directors Toolkit, Snapz, etc. Personally I think it would be nice if Apple would AUGMENT the software package on the Ti so you'd get everything from the iBook plus "pro" apps, but there you are.



    To make it a more fair comparison, you should add $100 to the iBook to bump the HD to 30GB and drop $300 from the Ti to go back to the standard 30. Especially since, if buying an iBook, I'd want the biggest drive possible (since it's hard to replace) but on the PB it's relatively easy to swap in a larger drive later, should you need it.
  • Reply 2 of 14
    prestonpreston Posts: 219member
    why is it harder to swap a drive on the i than the Ti?
  • Reply 3 of 14
    jesperasjesperas Posts: 524member
    [quote]Originally posted by preston:

    <strong>why is it harder to swap a drive on the i than the Ti?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The iBook architecture isn't designed for easy access to the hard drive. In fact, swapping the hard drive on an iBook will void the warranty, even if done by an authorized service provider.



    (Though it can be done through the Applestore as a BTO.)



    [ 05-26-2002: Message edited by: jesperas ]</p>
  • Reply 4 of 14
    photoeditorphotoeditor Posts: 234member
    I agree on the hard drive issue with the iBook; it is on rubber mounts in order to protect the hard drive from the shock of a seventh grader dropping it; and it is a tight space (only a 9.5mm hard drive, not the standard 12mm drive fits in the iBook). That said, you need to consider whether this is merely a supplement to a desktop computer, or more of a replacement for one. And, if your use is simply word processing, Internet, and the occasional Photoshop file, the iBook in its new configuration is more than enough to replace a desktop. Movies, graphics authoring; heavy special effects in Photoshop; that's where the G4 comes in.
  • Reply 5 of 14
    hledgardhledgard Posts: 264member
    This is a big issue for me. I have an iBook 500 which is too slow. I would love to upgrade.



    Are both the new 667 Ti and the 700 (14") fast?

    Is one noticeably faster?



    I often just put my iBook on the car seat and truck it around. Is the Ti too delicate for casual use on the road?



    Is the screen on the new Ti getting as good as the iBook?



    Thanks all!

    Dr. L
  • Reply 6 of 14
    clonenodeclonenode Posts: 392member
    Paul, There is really no comparing the two. They are targeted towards different markets: one being a consumer level machine, the other Pro. So I would want to ask you all kinds of questions like. "What do you do with your Mac?" "What do you want to do with this portable?" etc, etc.



    If you MUST compare, the G4 PowerBook blows away the G3 iBook. But the iBook is less expensive and VERY capable for doing many fun Mac things (iTunes, iMovie, etc.)



    Which is the better deal? The iBook. You can do almost everything on it that you can on the TiBook (except Final Cut Pro). Of course it runs slower, but look at the price difference.



    [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: clonenode ]</p>
  • Reply 7 of 14
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by clonenode:

    <strong>What are you really asking?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    the iBook would be PERFECT if it was not for 2 things... G4 (not a big deal, but my last 2 computers (imacs, for the last 4 years) have been G3s... i want something new....also, iMovie will be heavily used, so quick rendering is a plus)

    and the 1024X768 resolution... I have been "stuck" at that for the past oh 4 years.. i really want something bigger... but I dont think that need alone is worth it to get a PBG4... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> The iBook is really marketed toward me... but I cant help but want that screen real estate, espeically in X...

    If the iBook had mirroring to greater then 1024X768 then it would be no contest... but it doesnt...



    I dono, if i can convince my parents to lay out more $ (which i really hate to do, they ARE paying for college <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> ) i'll get the Ti...



    But I also dont want to come across as a rich snob up at BC with too much time on their hands... :o



    oh well, i'll probaly get an Ibook, but i'll be compromising... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    Edit: also i always have been on "consumer" computers.... I'd like to get the "power" hardware... I mean I really think I would use it...

    but i really should stop this crap... its only a freaking computer <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />



    [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: Paul ]</p>
  • Reply 8 of 14
    brunobruinbrunobruin Posts: 552member
    [quote]I often just put my iBook on the car seat and truck it around. Is the Ti too delicate for casual use on the road?



    Is the screen on the new Ti getting as good as the iBook?<hr></blockquote>



    I had a 500MHz iBook and traded up to the new 667 Ti. The iBook is FAR more rugged. I just lugged it around; the Ti doesn't go anywhere naked. For one thing, it's a big psychological leap from a $1,200 12-inch plastic laptop to a $2,500 15-inch metal one.



    I think the screen on the new Ti is just as good as the iBook's.



    About swapping the hard drive, I think Apple deliberately made the iBook case hard to access. I tried to get the bottom off mine and just finding all the screws was complicated; they're hidden everywhere. Once I got them out I couldn't get the bottom off anyway. I finally gave up for fear of busting the thing. On the PowerBook, Apple actually includes directions in the manual for replacing the hard drive, and they expect you to be able to remove the bottom (you have to do that to get the AirPort card in).
  • Reply 9 of 14
    re: paul





    i can relate bro. such a dilemma just trying to justify the $ and whatnot between the two. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    i'm just doing my best to try to hold out until mwny to see if anything worthy to either the ti or ibook happen. waiting sux. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 10 of 14
    hledgardhledgard Posts: 264member
    It may be worth waiting for MWNY, since the new books will probably have Jaguar.



    Thanks Bruno!
  • Reply 11 of 14
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by hledgard:

    <strong>It may be worth waiting for MWNY, since the new books will probably have Jaguar.



    Thanks Bruno!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's only if Jaguar's released at MWNY. It might not be released until September.
  • Reply 12 of 14
    myahmacmyahmac Posts: 222member
    hey do not under any circumstance worry about what people think about you. especially over stupid stuf like materials. this coming from a kid whose parents will not let some friends over cuz "our house will make us look like snobs."
  • Reply 13 of 14
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by myahmac:

    <strong>hey do not under any circumstance worry about what people think about you. especially over stupid stuf like materials. this coming from a kid whose parents will not let some friends over cuz "our house will make us look like snobs."</strong><hr></blockquote>



    dude, i know exactly what you mean.. its weird in my house my mom is like that and my dad is indifferent and i am vocally against it...



    i mean i realize that superfical things like that are worthless... but the fact of the matter is that there are people who dont feel this way (yeah, i know the argument, "well if thats the way they fell you shouldnt be freinds with them anyway" ) arg... whatever: [quote] its only a freaking computer <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> <hr></blockquote> <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

    I'll see how things develop and when jag comes out... I'd rather have a system CD that boots jag instead of 10.1.5... less work
  • Reply 14 of 14
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    [quote]Originally posted by clonenode:

    <strong>You can do almost everything on it that you can on the TiBook (except Final Cut Pro).



    [ 05-28-2002: Message edited by: clonenode ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Why do you say that the iBook isn't capable of FCP?
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