I'm sure you read the study over the last year or two which found that mothers who cleaned, disinfected, and anti-bacteria-ized their houses (and children) obsessively, were more likely to have kids that in later life had asthma and other respiratory problems - I presume as a result of NOT being exposed to common childhood bacteria and allergens.
I don't know if it is an urban legend, but I remember a story where a mother in the US raised her child in a very clean, disinfected house. When the child came to school or kindergarten it died of an anaphylactic shock, as it never had a chance to develop antibodies.
Well, speaking as a grizzled old bastard, I gotta warn ya kids: the real action doesn't start till later in life.
I don't know so much about skin cancer, but it really is true that your skin remembers every bit of sun it gets for your whole life. A great deal of what is considered "the inevitable effects of aging" is actually sun damage.
The thing is, it doesn't let you know until just about the time you actually start caring about looking youthful, as opposed to being youthful.
But who know? By the time some of you guys need to care, you will probably be able to get a new head installed at Costco.
I'm sure you read the study over the last year or two which found that mothers who cleaned, disinfected, and anti-bacteria-ized their houses (and children) obsessively, were more likely to have kids that in later life had asthma and other respiratory problems - I presume as a result of NOT being exposed to common childhood bacteria and allergens.
Interesting, don't you think?
I almost never get sick, heal cuts (seems to me) very quickly. I typically have a huge container of coins in my room (bathroom-type small wastebasket filled to the brim), with god knows how many quintillion germs. I seriously think that exposure to sufficiently diverse sampling of germs keeps you healthy.
I almost never get sick, heal cuts (seems to me) very quickly. I typically have a huge container of coins in my room (bathroom-type small wastebasket filled to the brim), with god knows how many quintillion germs. I seriously think that exposure to sufficiently diverse sampling of germs keeps you healthy.
I read something recently that said that 60% of American currency (bills) had two things on them: fecal residue (e coli ?) and cocaine.
The handles of shopping carts are quite gross (with e coli) because mothers often let their babies sit on the handle for a moment before putting them into the baby seat of the cart - so diaper germs get on the cart handles. Urgh.
Apparently movie theater seats are even more contaminated with various germs. I saw part of an Oprah show where she sent people out to take swabs of door handles, shopping cart handles, etc. I was pretty nonchalant about germs before seeing that show. But now.....I'm considerably more aware about where my hands 'have been', and make sure to wash them at crucial times, and never put my fingers in my mouth (unless my hands have 'just' been washed).
Now, after I have just washed my hands, I turn doorknobs with the bottom edge of my shirt instead of using my hands, so I can keep my hands clean for a little while. If that sounds weird, remember I work at a school, with hundreds of different hands touching classroom doorknobs everyday. And believe me when I say that the hands of jr. high kids are not the cleanest.
Now that you mention it I do flush urinals with my elbow/toilets with my foot (I refuse to just leave it like so many others do! I love automatic ones).
And I am never around kids. Allston is a college town and there are practically zero kids in everyday travels.
But when I do see a kid they are usually drooling, sneezing, crying, spitting etc Yeah glad I'm not a teacher in that respect.
I'd be a teacher only if each kid could be put into their own hermetically sealed R2-D2 exoskeleton and I had the remote control.
For those who don't know the UV rays in sunlight can split the weak hydrogen bond that forms the rung of your DNA. Most of the damage is repaired or the cell dies or some other benign outcome. BUT some of that damage will accumulate and then you have cancer.
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
Now that you mention it I do flush urinals with my elbow/toilets with my foot (I refuse to just leave it like so many others do! I love automatic ones).
And I am never around kids. Allston is a college town and there are practically zero kids in everyday travels.
But when I do see a kid they are usually drooling, sneezing, crying, spitting etc Yeah glad I'm not a teacher in that respect.
I'd be a teacher only if each kid could be put into their own hermetically sealed R2-D2 exoskeleton and I had the remote control.
Yeah, john, I turn off faucets with the back of my hand, and then open the restroom door using the paper towels I just used to dry my hands. Constant vigilance. And automatic toilets are wonderful, aren't they? First ones I saw were at our huge AMC theater when it was new.
I started laughing when I first glanced at your last sentence, before I read it closely. When I glimpsed the word 'exoskeleton', I suddenly pictured a classroom filled with students encased in hard-shelled insect suits, sitting in desks, with feelers and long legs sticking out, who were allowed to move *only* via your remote control. Wow, did I get a good laugh from that mental picture. heh.
For those who don't know the UV rays in sunlight can split the weak hydrogen bond that forms the rung of your DNA. Most of the damage is repaired or the cell dies or some other benign outcome. BUT some of that damage will accumulate and then you have cancer.
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
But Scott, if people want to ride their bikes on a fine spring day, play tennis, go hiking, or garden, don't you think those are healthful things to do - for 'mental health' and exercise - if one has plenty of sunscreen slathered on?
I read something recently that said that 60% of American currency (bills) had two things on them: fecal residue (e coli ?) and cocaine.
Now, after I have just washed my hands, I turn doorknobs with the bottom edge of my shirt instead of using my hands, so I can keep my hands clean for a little while. If that sounds weird, remember I work at a school, with hundreds of different hands touching classroom doorknobs everyday. And believe me when I say that the hands of jr. high kids are not the cleanest.
I've always been kinda careful of germs, although not nearly as much as it would take to be too help much more than the average person.
Are you sure it was just cocaine, I thought it was a trace of any drugs...then again I thought the percentage was higher, so maybe just cocaine is 60% and all drugs is higher?!
I am not so sure high school kids hands are much better, nor adults I flush urinals with my feet, and get paper towels with my feet to use the faucets in bathrooms, then to get more paper towels. Think about it...you use your hand to turn on the faucet that, maybe not you, but others pissed on themselves with, THEN after you wash your hands, you touch that very same faucet! Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
If I remember correctly you'd be suprised how much bacteria is still on your hands after you wash them, unless you use some serious stuff to clean them. Dishwashers for the most part bought by consumers don't get hot enough to sterilize I don't think, they are just 'cleaning' them. I forget what show I saw this stuff on, it was a while ago so I can't give percentages.
But Scott, if people want to ride their bikes on a fine spring day, play tennis, go hiking, or garden, don't you think those are healthful things to do - for 'mental health' and exercise - if one has plenty of sunscreen slathered on?
For those who don't know the UV rays in sunlight can split the weak hydrogen bond that forms the rung of your DNA. Most of the damage is repaired or the cell dies or some other benign outcome. BUT some of that damage will accumulate and then you have cancer.
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
Scott, sorry, the uv light in sun causes several DNA lesions, none of them have to do with a hydrogen bond. Most involve cyclizations of two base pairs or isomerization induced by light. Thiamine dimers are the most extreme of the lesions...
It's important because UV light is not high enough energy to be ionizing radiation yet it can cause DNA damage by breaking the weak hydrogen bonds. As far as anyone knows it's the only nonionizing radiation that can do that. Lesson? Cell phones don't cause cancer.
I've always been kinda careful of germs, although not nearly as much as it would take to be too help much more than the average person.
Are you sure it was just cocaine, I thought it was a trace of any drugs...then again I thought the percentage was higher, so maybe just cocaine is 60% and all drugs is higher?!
I am not so sure high school kids hands are much better, nor adults I flush urinals with my feet, and get paper towels with my feet to use the faucets in bathrooms, then to get more paper towels. Think about it...you use your hand to turn on the faucet that, maybe not you, but others pissed on themselves with, THEN after you wash your hands, you touch that very same faucet! Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
If I remember correctly you'd be suprised how much bacteria is still on your hands after you wash them, unless you use some serious stuff to clean them. Dishwashers for the most part bought by consumers don't get hot enough to sterilize I don't think, they are just 'cleaning' them. I forget what show I saw this stuff on, it was a while ago so I can't give percentages.
you get paper towels with your feet
i think it cocaine alone on money, people use the money to snort \
dishwashers don't get hot enough i don't think tha'ts right. i can't empty the diswasher just after it stops because the dishes are hot as hell. i guess it also depends on what your hot water heater is set at. it does have to set at certain temperature
I don't know if it is an urban legend, but I remember a story where a mother in the US raised her child in a very clean, disinfected house. When the child came to school or kindergarten it died of an anaphylactic shock, as it never had a chance to develop antibodies.
My take on it is that it's an urban legend. The kid never went out before it was 6 years old? Can't be possible. Also, anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction caused by the overproduction of antibodies, not the lack of them. So you either have your story wrong or someone is pullin' your leg.
Ahhh...finally the chance to use some paramedic knowledge in AI...this is a good day.
The number of skin cancer and in particular melanomena (one of the worse skin cancer, that has no cure in case of metastasis) is increasing. The reason is more exposure to UV.
The chance to have melanomena is 1% : 50 years ago, it was much much more lower.
Melanomena is the fist cause of death by cancer among young men.
It do not react to radiotherapy, and chimio only work in one quarter of the cases, and it will not cure anybody anyway.
Protecting our skin is mandatory, and checking our skin also (early stages of melanomena have nearly all the chances to be cure).
As a plastic surgeon I cure, hundreds of skin cancer. UV is not a myth.
It's important because UV light is not high enough energy to be ionizing radiation yet it can cause DNA damage by breaking the weak hydrogen bonds. As far as anyone knows it's the only nonionizing radiation that can do that. Lesson? Cell phones don't cause cancer.
I don't really want to get into this but UV light is ionizing radiation (for instance uv light is enough to photo-reduce/oxidize many quinones -- it is enough to break halide-halide bonds...). The thiamine dimers are not held together by hydrogen bonds, they are held together by carbon-carbon bonds from a reaction which induces the cyclization...
i think it cocaine alone on money, people use the money to snort \
dishwashers don't get hot enough i don't think tha'ts right. i can't empty the diswasher just after it stops because the dishes are hot as hell. i guess it also depends on what your hot water heater is set at. it does have to set at certain temperature
It may burn you but the temperature sensitivity of humans is around 50 C. That isn't hot enough to kill spores (or most bacteria come to think of it). You aren't autoclaving your dishes when you clean them. The soap takes care of a great deal of the crap that is on the plates but there is no gaurantee that it is sterile...
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Originally posted by Carol A
I'm sure you read the study over the last year or two which found that mothers who cleaned, disinfected, and anti-bacteria-ized their houses (and children) obsessively, were more likely to have kids that in later life had asthma and other respiratory problems - I presume as a result of NOT being exposed to common childhood bacteria and allergens.
I don't know if it is an urban legend, but I remember a story where a mother in the US raised her child in a very clean, disinfected house. When the child came to school or kindergarten it died of an anaphylactic shock, as it never had a chance to develop antibodies.
I don't know so much about skin cancer, but it really is true that your skin remembers every bit of sun it gets for your whole life. A great deal of what is considered "the inevitable effects of aging" is actually sun damage.
The thing is, it doesn't let you know until just about the time you actually start caring about looking youthful, as opposed to being youthful.
But who know? By the time some of you guys need to care, you will probably be able to get a new head installed at Costco.
Originally posted by Carol A
I'm sure you read the study over the last year or two which found that mothers who cleaned, disinfected, and anti-bacteria-ized their houses (and children) obsessively, were more likely to have kids that in later life had asthma and other respiratory problems - I presume as a result of NOT being exposed to common childhood bacteria and allergens.
Interesting, don't you think?
I almost never get sick, heal cuts (seems to me) very quickly. I typically have a huge container of coins in my room (bathroom-type small wastebasket filled to the brim), with god knows how many quintillion germs. I seriously think that exposure to sufficiently diverse sampling of germs keeps you healthy.
Originally posted by johnq
I almost never get sick, heal cuts (seems to me) very quickly. I typically have a huge container of coins in my room (bathroom-type small wastebasket filled to the brim), with god knows how many quintillion germs. I seriously think that exposure to sufficiently diverse sampling of germs keeps you healthy.
I read something recently that said that 60% of American currency (bills) had two things on them: fecal residue (e coli ?) and cocaine.
The handles of shopping carts are quite gross (with e coli) because mothers often let their babies sit on the handle for a moment before putting them into the baby seat of the cart - so diaper germs get on the cart handles. Urgh.
Apparently movie theater seats are even more contaminated with various germs. I saw part of an Oprah show where she sent people out to take swabs of door handles, shopping cart handles, etc. I was pretty nonchalant about germs before seeing that show. But now.....I'm considerably more aware about where my hands 'have been', and make sure to wash them at crucial times, and never put my fingers in my mouth (unless my hands have 'just' been washed).
Now, after I have just washed my hands, I turn doorknobs with the bottom edge of my shirt instead of using my hands, so I can keep my hands clean for a little while. If that sounds weird, remember I work at a school, with hundreds of different hands touching classroom doorknobs everyday. And believe me when I say that the hands of jr. high kids are not the cleanest.
Originally posted by Carol A
I read something recently that said that 60% of American currency (bills) had two things on them: fecal residue (e coli ?) and cocaine.
Ah. Money, fecal matter and cocaine.
The sturdy triumverate on which this nation was built!
Now that you mention it I do flush urinals with my elbow/toilets with my foot (I refuse to just leave it like so many others do! I love automatic ones).
And I am never around kids. Allston is a college town and there are practically zero kids in everyday travels.
But when I do see a kid they are usually drooling, sneezing, crying, spitting etc
I'd be a teacher only if each kid could be put into their own hermetically sealed R2-D2 exoskeleton and I had the remote control.
Originally posted by addabox
Ah. Money, fecal matter and cocaine.
The sturdy triumverate on which this nation was built!
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
Originally posted by johnq
Carol,
Now that you mention it I do flush urinals with my elbow/toilets with my foot (I refuse to just leave it like so many others do! I love automatic ones).
And I am never around kids. Allston is a college town and there are practically zero kids in everyday travels.
But when I do see a kid they are usually drooling, sneezing, crying, spitting etc
I'd be a teacher only if each kid could be put into their own hermetically sealed R2-D2 exoskeleton and I had the remote control.
Yeah, john, I turn off faucets with the back of my hand, and then open the restroom door using the paper towels I just used to dry my hands. Constant vigilance.
I started laughing when I first glanced at your last sentence, before I read it closely. When I glimpsed the word 'exoskeleton', I suddenly pictured a classroom filled with students encased in hard-shelled insect suits, sitting in desks, with feelers and long legs sticking out, who were allowed to move *only* via your remote control. Wow, did I get a good laugh from that mental picture. heh.
Originally posted by Scott
For those who don't know the UV rays in sunlight can split the weak hydrogen bond that forms the rung of your DNA. Most of the damage is repaired or the cell dies or some other benign outcome. BUT some of that damage will accumulate and then you have cancer.
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
But Scott, if people want to ride their bikes on a fine spring day, play tennis, go hiking, or garden, don't you think those are healthful things to do - for 'mental health' and exercise - if one has plenty of sunscreen slathered on?
Originally posted by Carol A
I read something recently that said that 60% of American currency (bills) had two things on them: fecal residue (e coli ?) and cocaine.
Now, after I have just washed my hands, I turn doorknobs with the bottom edge of my shirt instead of using my hands, so I can keep my hands clean for a little while. If that sounds weird, remember I work at a school, with hundreds of different hands touching classroom doorknobs everyday. And believe me when I say that the hands of jr. high kids are not the cleanest.
I've always been kinda careful of germs, although not nearly as much as it would take to be too help much more than the average person.
Are you sure it was just cocaine, I thought it was a trace of any drugs...then again I thought the percentage was higher, so maybe just cocaine is 60% and all drugs is higher?!
I am not so sure high school kids hands are much better, nor adults
If I remember correctly you'd be suprised how much bacteria is still on your hands after you wash them, unless you use some serious stuff to clean them. Dishwashers for the most part bought by consumers don't get hot enough to sterilize I don't think, they are just 'cleaning' them. I forget what show I saw this stuff on, it was a while ago so I can't give percentages.
Originally posted by Carol A
But Scott, if people want to ride their bikes on a fine spring day, play tennis, go hiking, or garden, don't you think those are healthful things to do - for 'mental health' and exercise - if one has plenty of sunscreen slathered on?
Yea which is why you should wear it.
Originally posted by Scott
For those who don't know the UV rays in sunlight can split the weak hydrogen bond that forms the rung of your DNA. Most of the damage is repaired or the cell dies or some other benign outcome. BUT some of that damage will accumulate and then you have cancer.
You wouldn't sit on a radioactive source. Why would you sit in the sun on a recurring basis?
Scott, sorry, the uv light in sun causes several DNA lesions, none of them have to do with a hydrogen bond. Most involve cyclizations of two base pairs or isomerization induced by light. Thiamine dimers are the most extreme of the lesions...
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I've always been kinda careful of germs, although not nearly as much as it would take to be too help much more than the average person.
Are you sure it was just cocaine, I thought it was a trace of any drugs...then again I thought the percentage was higher, so maybe just cocaine is 60% and all drugs is higher?!
I am not so sure high school kids hands are much better, nor adults
If I remember correctly you'd be suprised how much bacteria is still on your hands after you wash them, unless you use some serious stuff to clean them. Dishwashers for the most part bought by consumers don't get hot enough to sterilize I don't think, they are just 'cleaning' them. I forget what show I saw this stuff on, it was a while ago so I can't give percentages.
you get paper towels with your feet
i think it cocaine alone on money, people use the money to snort
dishwashers don't get hot enough
Originally posted by GSpotter
I don't know if it is an urban legend, but I remember a story where a mother in the US raised her child in a very clean, disinfected house. When the child came to school or kindergarten it died of an anaphylactic shock, as it never had a chance to develop antibodies.
My take on it is that it's an urban legend. The kid never went out before it was 6 years old? Can't be possible. Also, anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction caused by the overproduction of antibodies, not the lack of them. So you either have your story wrong or someone is pullin' your leg.
Ahhh...finally the chance to use some paramedic knowledge in AI...this is a good day.
The chance to have melanomena is 1% : 50 years ago, it was much much more lower.
Melanomena is the fist cause of death by cancer among young men.
It do not react to radiotherapy, and chimio only work in one quarter of the cases, and it will not cure anybody anyway.
Protecting our skin is mandatory, and checking our skin also (early stages of melanomena have nearly all the chances to be cure).
As a plastic surgeon I cure, hundreds of skin cancer. UV is not a myth.
Originally posted by Scott
It's important because UV light is not high enough energy to be ionizing radiation yet it can cause DNA damage by breaking the weak hydrogen bonds. As far as anyone knows it's the only nonionizing radiation that can do that. Lesson? Cell phones don't cause cancer.
I don't really want to get into this but UV light is ionizing radiation (for instance uv light is enough to photo-reduce/oxidize many quinones -- it is enough to break halide-halide bonds...). The thiamine dimers are not held together by hydrogen bonds, they are held together by carbon-carbon bonds from a reaction which induces the cyclization...
Originally posted by burningwheel
you get paper towels with your feet
i think it cocaine alone on money, people use the money to snort
dishwashers don't get hot enough
It may burn you but the temperature sensitivity of humans is around 50 C. That isn't hot enough to kill spores (or most bacteria come to think of it). You aren't autoclaving your dishes when you clean them. The soap takes care of a great deal of the crap that is on the plates but there is no gaurantee that it is sterile...