You're absolutely incorrect. If it was precisely about skin color, then it wouldn't have any geographical connection.
Thanks for your assertion, but unfortunately I have more to do in life than convince you against your will that Bubba imitations are about southern, white often christian (or at least professing to be christian) males.
I mean when I say "sho' nuff massa bunge." I really am speaking about the slave kept by the Aztecs in their warring quests against other native american tribes. The fact that you attribute it to not an American black slaves as opposed to say a Haitian black slaves is your problem I suppose.
But really it is about Aztec slaves, just find enough hours in the day to convince me against my will that it isn't.
I'm pretty sure you mean socialist, neo-leftist policy degrades your quality of life, not the act of bunge lobbying for it. You can avoid being hostile to Bunge and also say what you really mean that way- which is the best of both worlds. Anyway, you seem to be wading into the debate between socialism and unrestricted free-market capitalism- which really isn't the point of the thread.
Huh? I do support free market capitalism and civil liberty, that's true. The retort was to Bunge's rather self-centered decree that events which compromise any of his welfare are condemnable. I respond: things you prefer are condemnable from my point of view. Who's to say what is right?
So it doesn't really involve economic policy at all. It involves the difficulty in ligitating matters of public resources. And no, the answer isn't always to have the population vote on it.
As for being mean to bunge, well, he/she has a way of dwelling on minutia that is rarely productive and most often, as in this case, would be fairly easy to dissmiss in a serious debate (or a court). So I'm just playing a little bit of devil's advocate.
I do support free market capitalism and civil liberty, that's true. The retort was to Bunge's rather self-centered decree that events which compromise any of his welfare are condemnable.
Note your own language: Bunge was talking about events.
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I respond: things you prefer are condemnable from my point of view. Who's to say what is right?
Note your own language: preference is condemnable, not action or event.
There's a difference, as Shawn rightly points out, between lobbying for change and change actually being effected.
It must be nice to just attack me since then you don't have to think. Thanks for not only an example of ad-hominem, but literally a textbook example. Now everyone can easily understand the fallacy you pretend is reasoning.
I guess you're kinda like me . . . I get so into attacking you, because it is so easy and I dislike your ideas so much, that I forget about the rest of the post and get carried away.
in the same way, you always completely ignore whatever was said and focus only on the little minutia of insult and then steer the topic completely elsewhere
we work well that way . . . I insult you, (because its like falling off of a log to do so) and you focus only on that and disregard everything else {because that's all you can do) . . . what a pair! \
I guess you're kinda like me . . . I get so into attacking you, because it is so easy and I dislike your ideas so much, that I forget about the rest of the post and get carried away.
in the same way, you always completely ignore whatever was said and focus only on the little minutia of insult and then steer the topic completely elsewhere
we work well that way . . . I insult you, (because its like falling off of a log to do so) and you focus only on that and disregard everything else {because that's all you can do) . . . what a pair! \
I guess I'll just have to support homosexual marriage so we can tie the knot now.
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Originally posted by bunge
You're absolutely incorrect. If it was precisely about skin color, then it wouldn't have any geographical connection.
Thanks for your assertion, but unfortunately I have more to do in life than convince you against your will that Bubba imitations are about southern, white often christian (or at least professing to be christian) males.
I mean when I say "sho' nuff massa bunge." I really am speaking about the slave kept by the Aztecs in their warring quests against other native american tribes. The fact that you attribute it to not an American black slaves as opposed to say a Haitian black slaves is your problem I suppose.
But really it is about Aztec slaves, just find enough hours in the day to convince me against my will that it isn't.
Nick
Originally posted by ShawnJ
I'm pretty sure you mean socialist, neo-leftist policy degrades your quality of life, not the act of bunge lobbying for it. You can avoid being hostile to Bunge and also say what you really mean that way- which is the best of both worlds. Anyway, you seem to be wading into the debate between socialism and unrestricted free-market capitalism- which really isn't the point of the thread.
Huh? I do support free market capitalism and civil liberty, that's true. The retort was to Bunge's rather self-centered decree that events which compromise any of his welfare are condemnable. I respond: things you prefer are condemnable from my point of view. Who's to say what is right?
So it doesn't really involve economic policy at all. It involves the difficulty in ligitating matters of public resources. And no, the answer isn't always to have the population vote on it.
As for being mean to bunge, well, he/she has a way of dwelling on minutia that is rarely productive and most often, as in this case, would be fairly easy to dissmiss in a serious debate (or a court). So I'm just playing a little bit of devil's advocate.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
I do support free market capitalism and civil liberty, that's true. The retort was to Bunge's rather self-centered decree that events which compromise any of his welfare are condemnable.
Note your own language: Bunge was talking about events.
I respond: things you prefer are condemnable from my point of view. Who's to say what is right?
Note your own language: preference is condemnable, not action or event.
There's a difference, as Shawn rightly points out, between lobbying for change and change actually being effected.
Cheers
Scott
Originally posted by trumptman
It must be nice to just attack me since then you don't have to think. Thanks for not only an example of ad-hominem, but literally a textbook example. Now everyone can easily understand the fallacy you pretend is reasoning.
Ad hominem
Nick
I guess you're kinda like me . . . I get so into attacking you, because it is so easy and I dislike your ideas so much, that I forget about the rest of the post and get carried away.
in the same way, you always completely ignore whatever was said and focus only on the little minutia of insult and then steer the topic completely elsewhere
we work well that way . . . I insult you, (because its like falling off of a log to do so) and you focus only on that and disregard everything else {because that's all you can do) . . . what a pair!
Originally posted by pfflam
I guess you're kinda like me . . . I get so into attacking you, because it is so easy and I dislike your ideas so much, that I forget about the rest of the post and get carried away.
in the same way, you always completely ignore whatever was said and focus only on the little minutia of insult and then steer the topic completely elsewhere
we work well that way . . . I insult you, (because its like falling off of a log to do so) and you focus only on that and disregard everything else {because that's all you can do) . . . what a pair!
I guess I'll just have to support homosexual marriage so we can tie the knot now.
Nick