FCC minions strike again (CCC and Howard Stern)

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
There is an article in the WSJ today about the recent fine the FCC placed on Clear Channel in response to indecency from Howard Stern. While this is old news, the fine is for $495k this time, the most ever, and for all the wrong reasons. The FCC claims to be interested in "cleaning up the airwaves for the election year," and in doing so they fined six radio stations for airing the Stern show, deemed inappropriate.



It disturbs me to no end to see the government try to strong-arm radio stations into dropping Howard Stern, who I must admit has a very entertaining show that appeals to a wide range of listeners. To her credit, the WSJ staff writer cast the actions of the FCC, and the FCC in general, in a very unflattering light.
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  • Reply 1 of 76
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    We do need to clean up the airwaves for election, lets start by getting rid of all the political mudslinging. \
  • Reply 2 of 76
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    We do need to clean up the airwaves for election, lets start by getting rid of all the political mudslinging. \



    Why does an election somehow justify unprecedented censorship?
  • Reply 3 of 76
    mellomello Posts: 555member
    Here's the link:



    Howard Stern
  • Reply 4 of 76
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    Another nail in the coffin for Howard Stern = Good

    Another nail in the coffin for Free Speech = Bad



  • Reply 5 of 76
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    Ooop? Twin topics...



    Another nail in the coffin for Howard Stern = Good

    Another nail in the coffin for Free Speech = Bad



  • Reply 6 of 76
    rageousrageous Posts: 2,170member
    This is beyond bullshit and Howard Stern, like him or not, is getting railroaded.
  • Reply 7 of 76
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    It's that pesky free market. CCC can decide if they want their FCC status in jeopardy. They are free to hire and fire whoever they want. Stern has a right to say what he wants, but he has no right to be heard or to have a job to do it. Screw him.
  • Reply 8 of 76
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Let's combine this into one thread:



    posted by me

    Quote:

    There is an article in the WSJ today about the recent fine the FCC placed on Clear Channel in response to indecency from Howard Stern. While this is old news, the fine is for $495k this time, the most ever, and for all the wrong reasons. The FCC claims to be interested in "cleaning up the airwaves for the election year," and in doing so they fined six radio stations for airing the Stern show, deemed inappropriate.



    It disturbs me to no end to see the government try to strong-arm radio stations into dropping Howard Stern, who I must admit has a very entertaining show that appeals to a wide range of listeners. To her credit, the WSJ staff writer cast the actions of the FCC, and the FCC in general, in a very unflattering light.



    I started the other thread, "FCC minions strike again," before I knew that Stern was getting kicked.
  • Reply 9 of 76
    splinemodelsplinemodel Posts: 7,311member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jubelum

    It's that pesky free market. CCC can decide if they want their FCC status in jeopardy. They are free to hire and fire whoever they want. Stern has a right to say what he wants, but he has no right to be heard or to have a job to do it. Screw him.



    Pesky free market? Stern had an enormously popular radio show. IIRC, it was more popular than pretty much any other program in any kind of media. The market speaks for Stern.



    The FCC is going beyond it's charter here, as usual, and is tampering with the free market based on a set of sensibilities that really have no bearing on anything. There are people who don't approve of Howard Stern, yes. But if I caught my nonexistent kid listening to a tele. . . well. . . radioevangelist, I would definitely have to sit down and have a chat with him. But nonetheless I cannot complain and have the FCC injunct a program with a fairly violent, morbid message because, for some reason, it's OK with the government to broadcast such things.



    Before too many people gang up on me, I am not against televangelists. I think they have every right to broadcast, as does Howard Stern. Blocking information from the community is never beneficial, especially when the majority of the community seems to be fine with Stern. Worrying about a child listening to Stern is purely a matter regarding the abdication of responsibility on behalf of the parent.
  • Reply 10 of 76
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Splinemodel

    Pesky free market? Stern had an enormously popular radio show. IIRC, it was more popular than pretty much any other program in any kind of media. The market speaks for Stern.





    I was not referring to Stern being popular or not. I know he is. My point is that Clear Channel has the right to forego a popular radio show if they want to, for whatever reason. If they are willing to take the $$$ hit, that is their right. Based on events, it looks like it might have been cheaper to can him, rather than throw money down the fine well.



    He has no "right" to be heard. As a people, we have decided that we have standards. Some think they are too tight, some think they are too loose. If we don't like our govt's decision, we can do something about it here.



    (Hey, Howard, go call Al Franken and Air America. I hear they have some openings for explicit pie-holes. )



    Case Closed. Good Riddance.
  • Reply 11 of 76
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    The point is there should be no fines. If you don't like what you hear, turn the radio off.
  • Reply 12 of 76
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    I strongly agree.
  • Reply 13 of 76
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Splinemodel

    Why does an election somehow justify unprecedented censorship?



    I have no clue. Particularly when it's election year and it's nothing but 'slag your opponent all day long'
  • Reply 14 of 76
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    I've merged the thread Splinemodel started with the other thread about Howard Stern being dropped by Clear Channel.
  • Reply 15 of 76
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BR

    The point is there should be no fines. If you don't like what you hear, turn the radio off.





    Actually, that also gives me the right to broadcast on their frequency. Hey, if it's PUBLIC airwaves let' s give this commons a tragedy.



    I remember the last time I listened to the show, Robin's news report included a news story about a woman who used a car key to cut open a dead woman and steal her baby. Also, I read a recent transcript of the show---this whole Yucko the clown bit sounds fouler than Freddy Kruger's jag rag.



    Public airwaves have public rules. Stern has used the threats and his fines to justify himself to his target audiance as a rebel. (As if drinking out of a urinal makes you a rebel.) You can only shock yourself senseless for so long. Stern's upgrade cycle just couldn't hold him---and CCC can see where the market is headed---they don't need Stern's product when turning his trick involes necrophelia or incest----but then I think he's already gone there.



    Stern is just a product, and you guys shouldn't be confusing a cheap product with no future life cycle with "free speech". If this were the case here, we could distribute Swank Magazine in the public schools.
  • Reply 16 of 76
    rageousrageous Posts: 2,170member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jubelum

    I was not referring to Stern being popular or not. I know he is. My point is that Clear Channel has the right to forego a popular radio show if they want to, for whatever reason.



    If you think Clear Channel did this out of the goodness of their collective hearts, you've not been following the situation.



    The funny thing is i think most people who despise Stern probably have very little exposure to his show. It is not as over the top as the conservative blowhards want to make it seem.
  • Reply 17 of 76
    randycat99randycat99 Posts: 1,919member
    I guess this is why there have not been any live Stern shows this week? Stern predicted being shutdown this week last Fri when we were informed of a bill being "hotlined" through the Senate. It's a shame! ...not even a goodbye show.



    www.stopfcc.com
  • Reply 18 of 76
    randycat99randycat99 Posts: 1,919member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by rageous

    The funny thing is i think most people who despise Stern probably have very little exposure to his show. It is not as over the top as the conservative blowhards want to make it seem.



    Very True!
  • Reply 19 of 76
    jubelumjubelum Posts: 4,490member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by rageous

    If you think Clear Channel did this out of the goodness of their collective hearts, you've not been following the situation.





    Goodness? No. Not wanting the risk/hassle? I think so.
  • Reply 20 of 76
    rageousrageous Posts: 2,170member
    It had nothing to do with risk/hassle either.



    They were about to appear before the senate, and served him up as a sacrificial lamb to appease the "outraged" committee. Nothing more.
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