Laying the Foundation for Withdrawal

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  • Reply 21 of 36
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    [Back in business]



    Fellows
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  • Reply 22 of 36
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    No, your post isn't too off-topic. Simply misguided.





    1. The idea that Christian Fundamentalists believe that Islamic Fundamentalists are wrong is shocking. Absolutely shocking. Really.



    2. Once again, repeat after me:



    So-cons are different from Neo-cons!

    So-cons are different from Neo-cons!

    So-cons are different from Neo-cons!



    Got it yet?



    You start off by saying "A War on Islam is being waged by the Christian pro-Israel right" and then you launch into a tirade about the nefarious actions of neo-conservatives. At least Sammi Jo quoted actual Christian conservatives in her post.



    Quote:

    The unfortunate fact is that US Christian fundies are extremists. Their language is the language of war (crusades, waging war, battling for Christ, Christian soldiers) and this stems from their overriding belief that they and they alone are right.



    That's just ridiculous. By that reasoning, I suppose you believe The Salvation Army is a military organization.
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  • Reply 23 of 36
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    So did Bush lay the groundwork for pulling out early last night? Or was the premiss of this thread entirely off base?
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  • Reply 24 of 36
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    Am I missing something...how can you call yourself christian and support killing people? did not jesus want us to practice unrequited love for all?



    Look in the Old Testament for Jerico. God ordered all of the inhabitants killed including children. The bible is full of death. That is a weak argument.
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  • Reply 25 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    Look in the Old Testament for Jerico. God ordered all of the inhabitants killed including children. The bible is full of death. That is a weak argument.



    yes this is true, but aren't christians supposed to follow the teachings of jesus christ hence the name 'christians'



    Also, doesn't christianity follow the new testament over the old?



    From what I understand, Jesus was quite the oddity, in a world full of violence, he said more or less "hey, come on guys, this is really lame, can't we just love eachother?"



    I don't really see how it's a weak argument, just because tons of shit has been piled on top of jesus' message doesn't mean that the core of his message is invalidated.



    I'm not trying to like goad anyone on or anything, I don't know enough about religion, I just know that jesus told us to love everyone, and that's good enough for me.
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  • Reply 26 of 36
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    yes this is true, but aren't christians supposed to follow the teachings of jesus christ hence the name 'christians'



    Also, doesn't christianity follow the new testament over the old?



    From what I understand, Jesus was quite the oddity, in a world full of violence, he said more or less "hey, come on guys, this is really lame, can't we just love eachother?"



    I don't really see how it's a weak argument, just because tons of shit has been piled on top of jesus' message doesn't mean that the core of his message is invalidated.



    I'm not trying to like goad anyone on or anything, I don't know enough about religion, I just know that jesus told us to love everyone, and that's good enough for me.




    You are right that you no nothing about religion.



    The way you describe his message he sounds like a surfer.
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  • Reply 27 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    well, care to help me learn?
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  • Reply 28 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX





    The way you describe his message he sounds like a surfer.






    Does that somehow invalidate the message?



    How about this one "be...excellent to each other"



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  • Reply 29 of 36
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    Does that somehow invalidate the message?



    How about this one "be...excellent to each other"







    Not necessarily, dude...
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  • Reply 30 of 36
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    The way you describe his message he sounds like a surfer.



    Hmmm...

    -He had long hair

    -He wore sandals

    -He walked on water

    -He threw a shindig with free bread, fish, and wine for a huge crowd



    I think you might be on to something!

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  • Reply 31 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by FormerLurker



    -He walked on water







    natural born surfer.
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  • Reply 32 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    I just went to look for some photoshop fodder to make a surfing jesus, but in my first image search I found

    this(big, so I didn't post inline).





    and this

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  • Reply 33 of 36
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    natural born surfer.



    He wasn't "natural born"



    I was enjoying the back and forth with Sego, but I guess I'll try to stay more OT from now on.



    Let's face it, there are going to need to be foreign troops in Iraq for years to come. Civil war is a definite possibility without them. Seems to me to properly lay the foundation for withdrawal, the UN would need to step up and play a much bigger role.



    Bush is open to it, sometimes he even sounds like he's begging for it.



    Whatever the past problems with the invasion, isn't it time the UN steps up here? You can't complain about countries practicing unilateralism when there's a vacuum in leadership at the mecca of multilateralism.
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  • Reply 34 of 36
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777

    He wasn't "natural born" .



    d'oh! of all the people I could have called a natural born surfer it had to be jesus.



    Frank777: Natural born surfer
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  • Reply 35 of 36
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777

    He wasn't "natural born"







    Ceasarian?
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