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  • Reply 21 of 34
    beigeuserbeigeuser Posts: 371member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch

    "Don't see your friends. See your friends girlfriends without cloth!"



    Wasn't there a Sony Video Camera on the market a few years ago with this capability. Actually it was an infra-red camera made to shoot in the dark but it had tendency to see through light clothing when used in daylight. Apparently there were many guys at the beach with that camera during that month. Sony took it off the market as soon as they found out that their equipment was being misused.
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  • Reply 22 of 34
    zozo Posts: 3,117member
    it was when the clothes were WET.



    So, there was various footage of people at public pools recording chicks getting out of pools. In broad daylight.



    I remember when they actually SHOWED that on Italian national news...



    I guess they figured no one in Japan would ever see the footage and sue Italian State TV



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  • Reply 23 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ZO

    Well, maybe a bit smaller, new casing...



    That would be about the only thing that I think could improve the iSight. I doubt we will see a redesigned iSight before Sept., but whenever we do it will probably just be a little smaller with some new clip or cable or something.



    Of course, I would rather just see the price come down on the iSight. Or at least offer a two-camera bundle at a slightly reduced rate. Am I the only one who really thinks they should sell a bundle with a pair of cameras and two copies of iChatAV?



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  • Reply 24 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ZO

    Well, maybe a bit smaller, new casing... would be wicked to be able to connect iSight to iPod for storage...



    Sure... no viewfinder means having some weird surprises as to WHAT you actually recorded... but still... fun gadget






    If its hooked up to an iPod, couldn't the iPod screen serve as a viewfinder?
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  • Reply 25 of 34
    beigeuserbeigeuser Posts: 371member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Derrick 61

    If its hooked up to an iPod, couldn't the iPod screen serve as a viewfinder?



    Is the iPod screen capable? How many shades of gray can it handle? Or are you referring to a future version of the Pod?
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    derrick 61derrick 61 Posts: 178member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BeigeUser

    Is the iPod screen capable? How many shades of gray can it handle? Or are you referring to a future version of the Pod?



    Future version if it needs to be. I don't know if the current Pod could do it.
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  • Reply 27 of 34
    andrewmandrewm Posts: 50member
    I respectfully disagree with those who believe that the iSight cannot be much improved. Its maximum resolution should be upgraded significantly to at least full-screen—1280x1024, or higher.



    Responders may be quick to point out that many chat clients don't support resolutions that high! It'd make chat slow, unwieldy, require the best connections.



    The key is in the software. If what I have seen posted upon this forum is correct, the iSight can be used with iMovie. I suspect that at some point it may be compatible with other programs, even if they are Apple-only. Why should we settle for 640x480 resolution (or whatever it is, currently) for video recording?



    One compatibility change might be made to iChat, which could scale down the resolution of the input to whatever is necessary for chat.



    The greatest prohibitive factor, in my own opinion, would be the cost. Apple for this likely has no reason, and little enough demand, to increase resolution and sell the iSight for the same price. Double the resolution? Perhaps double the cost, which would quickly kill this model unless some new application were created—an iSight with a microphone that doubles as a VoIP device of some sort, or something like that. Perhaps I am simply alive in a fantasy world.



    I have also seen mentioned here the price—it would be good for it to go down. What of a novel solution? Apple drops a newer model of the current iSight to $99, then makes a higher-resolution iSight for $149 or $159. Once again, perhaps simply a fantasy.
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  • Reply 28 of 34
    oldmacfanoldmacfan Posts: 501member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by andrewm

    I respectfully disagree with those who believe that the iSight cannot be much improved. Its maximum resolution should be upgraded significantly to at least full-screen—1280x1024, or higher.



    Responders may be quick to point out that many chat clients don't support resolutions that high! It'd make chat slow, unwieldy, require the best connections.



    The key is in the software. If what I have seen posted upon this forum is correct, the iSight can be used with iMovie. I suspect that at some point it may be compatible with other programs, even if they are Apple-only. Why should we settle for 640x480 resolution (or whatever it is, currently) for video recording?



    One compatibility change might be made to iChat, which could scale down the resolution of the input to whatever is necessary for chat.



    The greatest prohibitive factor, in my own opinion, would be the cost. Apple for this likely has no reason, and little enough demand, to increase resolution and sell the iSight for the same price. Double the resolution? Perhaps double the cost, which would quickly kill this model unless some new application were created—an iSight with a microphone that doubles as a VoIP device of some sort, or something like that. Perhaps I am simply alive in a fantasy world.



    I have also seen mentioned here the price—it would be good for it to go down. What of a novel solution? Apple drops a newer model of the current iSight to $99, then makes a higher-resolution iSight for $149 or $159. Once again, perhaps simply a fantasy.




    Is not the higher resolution you are looking for greater than HDTV? Is not 640x480 already greater than standard TV resolution? What you should really want is a higher frame rate, an iSight that has a faster ??? (do they call the chip that captures the video a cmos sensor?) one of those.
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  • Reply 29 of 34
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Off to Digital Hub we go...
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  • Reply 30 of 34
    beigeuserbeigeuser Posts: 371member
    The higher resolution would be pointless until really fast broadband becomes commonplace. Very few if any people will actually have use for videochatting at that resolution.



    I know that some might mention that iMovie may be able to record at the higher resolution but how many people will want to carry their computer around to record a home video. Most people will buy a real video camera.
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  • Reply 31 of 34
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    I'd imagine the iSight probably has a long future ahead of it before it's updated. Even as webcams start becoming higher res, the Broadband to support higher res video chat isn't exactly there, but in addition to that, all apple needs to do is lower the price at that point. I'd wager that the iSight will definitely get an update eventually.



    Aside from the expected upgrades, higher res, better microphone, firewire 800 even.



    I think a valid thing apple could implement would be an automatic base, If possible, something in the software that would track your motion maybe. That'd be pretty neat, so that the camera stays focused on you.
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  • Reply 32 of 34
    kim kap solkim kap sol Posts: 2,987member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Amorph

    Off to Digital Hub we go...



    Why? iSight 2 would be future hardware. I think the forum descriptions need to be a bit clearer on that. I thought future hardware was future hardware was future hardware. But I guess it isn't always the case.
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  • Reply 33 of 34
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by sCreeD

    xSight X-ray version of the iSight "Don't just see your friends. See your friends' skeletal structure"



    Song for the commercial song: "Bad to the bone" (of course)



    Screed




    Obviousley someone would hack it so it only x-rayd the cloths off.....hummmmm, then apple could give ISights to every serority and save them the time of...



    (steve @ wwdc) "An imac in every dorm-room, and an x-ray-sight on top!"



    OH GOD, AL GORE IS DOING THE LIVE DEMO AGAIN!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!! (puts gun in mouth, pulls trigger)
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  • Reply 34 of 34
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by oldmacfan

    As part of the rumor I heard, the new iChat will be windows compatible and will give us iSight compatability on the PC side. OR was it iSight compatability was to be built into another PC version of some chat software. Sorry, I forgot.



    It will be aim on windows untill the ichat store opens
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