Query failed: connection to localhost:9312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused). iPod mini 2000 song now? - iPod + iTunes + AppleTV Discussions on AppleInsider Forums Toggle navigation All Forums Recent Posts Sign In iPod mini 2000 song now? addison Posted: April 28, 2004 8:33PM in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014 Does the introduction of the Apple Loss-less codec "half the size" mean that the mini-pod will now hold twice the number of tracks? Which format is the most efficient to use without sacrificing sound quality? Comments Reply 1 of 7 ghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member April 28, 2004 8:37PM Apple meant half the size as in half the size of CD Audio. Meaning, instead of 600-700MB per album, you can rip to the lossless codec and end up with an album weighing in at 300-350MB, roughly.A 5 minute track is going to run you about 32MB of disk space, but it is kind of variable.What I find interesting is that the file extension for lossless files is still .m4a. So is this still an MPEG-4 codec? Reply 2 of 7 hmurchison Posts: 12,341member April 28, 2004 8:43PM Quote:Originally posted by LoCash [BWhat I find interesting is that the file extension for lossless files is still .m4a. So is this still an MPEG-4 codec? [/B]No not necessarily. MPEG4 does have a lossless variety coming but odds are this may not be it. .m4a is just the container like .mov it could be anything else inside. Doesn't look like FLAC though. Reply 3 of 7 addison Posts: 1,185member April 29, 2004 4:07AM Is MP3 still the best space/quality trade off? Reply 4 of 7 cosmonut Posts: 4,872member April 29, 2004 6:37AM Quote:Originally posted by Addison Is MP3 still the best space/quality trade off? I'd say standard AAC is. Reply 5 of 7 aquatic Posts: 5,602member April 29, 2004 1:24PM No. This is a lot bigger since it is lossless, as others mentioned. What you are thinking about is HE AAC which sounds as good as 128 AAC at 64. Which means it sounds as good as 128 MP3 at 32. Which means it is a quarter of the size of a 128 MP3 file with the same quality. In other words once they add that they really should say "iPod mini: 4,000 songs in your pocket." I bet they'll add HE AAC soon enough. Just hope the first iPods will play it and it won't be only for Dockables. Guess I'm getting obsolete! Reply 6 of 7 luca Posts: 3,833member April 29, 2004 2:11PM Quote:Originally posted by Aquatic Just hope the first iPods will play it and it won't be only for Dockables. Guess I'm getting obsolete! Well, the older iPods can't play the lossless format either. They can play AAC of course (it wouldn't fit with Apple's business plan to prevent older iPod users from playing iTMS music on their iPods), but the lossless codec isn't supported on the older iPods and I doubt it ever will be.My guess is that if they add that HE AAC, it'll play only on 4th-generation iPods and 2nd-generation iPod minis. At least, that's how it would go if Apple continues their current pattern of support for 1-2 year old hardware. Reply 7 of 7 eugene Posts: 8,254member April 29, 2004 2:29PM HE-AAC should already play in an iPod while ignoring the SBR bits. It would be in Apple's best interest to support it at all levels, otherwise the nice sounding HE-AAC encoded file would sound shitty. Sign In or Register to comment.