Leonard, Leonard, Leonard....all iMacs and eMacs also use the PowerMac machine code and they use the EVEN NUMBERED (as in 8,1) codes!
If there was an all-new Powermac available at Apple, they would have coded it 9,1? I'm not sure... I think that when a new machine design is ready, the engineers pick up the following unused code number, and that's it! And since Apple always repeats the same scheme (Pro-Consumer-Pro-Consumer...), all the consumer Macs end up even numbered and the pro Macs, odd numbered.
That's my opinion. However, 8,1 being a new Powermac is pretty unlikely, that's for sure!
Does anyone know if the dual 2 and dual 1.8 are 970fx? Do you know if they are water cooled? From what I've been reading they aren't... so basically the 2ghz is unchanged except for graphics card?
Does anyone know if the dual 2 and dual 1.8 are 970fx? Do you know if they are water cooled? From what I've been reading they aren't... so basically the 2ghz is unchanged except for graphics card?
Does anyone know if the dual 2 and dual 1.8 are 970fx? Do you know if they are water cooled? From what I've been reading they aren't... so basically the 2ghz is unchanged except for graphics card?
Everything you say is correct. The 1.8 and 2.0 duals use the 970, only the 2.5 dual uses the 970fx (and water cooling). The video remains basically unchanged except for a memory bump on the ATI cards. They did upgrade from a 4x Superdrive to an 8x drive across the board also.
Everything you say is correct. The 1.8 and 2.0 duals use the 970, only the 2.5 dual uses the 970fx (and water cooling). The video remains basically unchanged except for a memory bump on the ATI cards. They did upgrade from a 4x Superdrive to an 8x drive across the board also.
What about the powersupply problems they were having with the Rev A's... did they fix those issues?
What about the powersupply problems they were having with the Rev A's... did they fix those issues?
I do not know about those. What problems are you referring to? I just got the specs and noted the changes, but unfortunately, no one has a Rev B yet, so ????
I do not know about those. What problems are you referring to? I just got the specs and noted the changes, but unfortunately, no one has a Rev B yet, so ????
The problems mostly (only?) manifested themselves as excessive noise and beeps and such in the audio system. I think some wire somewhere was just picking up power fluctuations. Does anyone here know if it was all audio or just the built-in variety?
I don't wanna burst anyones bubble, but unless Jobs plans on running a prometeia mach II there's no way in hell he'll be showcasing a 3ghz G5.
I don't know why people continue to go on about a 3ghz G5... its not like(Edited- used to be Apple) will magically be able to bump clockspeeds another 500mhz... especially not after releaseing a water cooled 2.5 ghz unit.
3ghz just isn't feasible right now nor will it be for months to come.
edit: excuse my ignorance..... i realize that IBM and Motorola manufacture the processors for apple, but its mostly Apples ass on the line in temrs of the 3ghz being out or not.
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Originally posted by fresco
tfworld, whats up?
Yeah I'm curious too. These speedbumped Power Macs supposed to blow us away?
Originally posted by IonYz
...These speedbumped Power Macs supposed to blow us away?
No, hence the more or less silent update. No press conference no event, not announced at WWDC or Macworld.
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Not sure if Neo is referring to that though - it is a part of the IOPlatformPluginTable.
Yeah, you're probably right, it does sound like a new machine rather than ADR 2.0.
You can use ioreg command to know the model name.
In Terminal:
% ioreg|more
+-o Root <class IORegistryEntry, retain count 11>
+-o PowerMac6,1 <class IOPlatformExpertDevice, registered, matched, active, $
...
I'm expecting Dual 1.8/2.0 are still PowerMac7,2.
Only Dual 2.5 (which got 950FX) is PowerMac7,3.
Then we can still hope PowerMac8,1 to be iMacG5 or something new.
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Leonard, Leonard, Leonard....all iMacs and eMacs also use the PowerMac machine code and they use the EVEN NUMBERED (as in 8,1) codes!
If there was an all-new Powermac available at Apple, they would have coded it 9,1? I'm not sure... I think that when a new machine design is ready, the engineers pick up the following unused code number, and that's it! And since Apple always repeats the same scheme (Pro-Consumer-Pro-Consumer...), all the consumer Macs end up even numbered and the pro Macs, odd numbered.
That's my opinion. However, 8,1 being a new Powermac is pretty unlikely, that's for sure!
Originally posted by emig647
Does anyone know if the dual 2 and dual 1.8 are 970fx? Do you know if they are water cooled? From what I've been reading they aren't... so basically the 2ghz is unchanged except for graphics card?
And the price.
Originally posted by emig647
Does anyone know if the dual 2 and dual 1.8 are 970fx? Do you know if they are water cooled? From what I've been reading they aren't... so basically the 2ghz is unchanged except for graphics card?
Everything you say is correct. The 1.8 and 2.0 duals use the 970, only the 2.5 dual uses the 970fx (and water cooling). The video remains basically unchanged except for a memory bump on the ATI cards. They did upgrade from a 4x Superdrive to an 8x drive across the board also.
That's just 2 weeks!!
That water cooling unit on the first page looks...ummmm... cool. Can't wait till I get my dual G5 2.5 and see this setup up close.
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Everything you say is correct. The 1.8 and 2.0 duals use the 970, only the 2.5 dual uses the 970fx (and water cooling). The video remains basically unchanged except for a memory bump on the ATI cards. They did upgrade from a 4x Superdrive to an 8x drive across the board also.
What about the powersupply problems they were having with the Rev A's... did they fix those issues?
Originally posted by emig647
What about the powersupply problems they were having with the Rev A's... did they fix those issues?
I do not know about those. What problems are you referring to? I just got the specs and noted the changes, but unfortunately, no one has a Rev B yet, so ????
Originally posted by Rhumgod
I do not know about those. What problems are you referring to? I just got the specs and noted the changes, but unfortunately, no one has a Rev B yet, so ????
The problems mostly (only?) manifested themselves as excessive noise and beeps and such in the audio system. I think some wire somewhere was just picking up power fluctuations. Does anyone here know if it was all audio or just the built-in variety?
Originally posted by emig647
I thought the PowerSupply was also causing the fans to spin out of control on dual machines...
I know the MDD (Windtunnel) PowerMac G4s had this with Apple offering a power supply exchange. Didn't know that affected the G5.
Originally posted by Rhumgod
I know the MDD (Windtunnel) PowerMac G4s had this with Apple offering a power supply exchange. Didn't know that affected the G5.
You could be right... I might just not remember correctly.
Originally posted by emig647
You could be right... I might just not remember correctly.
And if you think the G5s are loud, whew.....they didn't get the nickname WindTunnel for nothing. Those were real loud.
powermac 7,3 = new 1.8/2.0
powermac 8,1 = new 2.5
Maybe with new proc, powertune, or processor controlled cooling pump it justifies a new designation.
I would probably know why this is wrong if I just read this whole thread.
I don't know why people continue to go on about a 3ghz G5... its not like(Edited- used to be Apple) will magically be able to bump clockspeeds another 500mhz... especially not after releaseing a water cooled 2.5 ghz unit.
3ghz just isn't feasible right now nor will it be for months to come.
edit: excuse my ignorance..... i realize that IBM and Motorola manufacture the processors for apple, but its mostly Apples ass on the line in temrs of the 3ghz being out or not.