How do I keep my appointments on a cell phone? How do I keep my bus schedule on a cell phone? How do I keep a map on a cell phone? When I need a calculator at work how do I do that on a cell phone? How do I do a spreadsheet on a cell phone?
Amazingly enough my cell phone can do all that except for the spreadsheet. It's a little sony ericsson thingy with a camera taboot!
lol so you're unfortunate enough to not be able to carry a cellphone around. I'm still a student and storing numbers on a cell is well-justified. i think it's just different for me, ... living on a campus which is entirely wireless, whose also number one in computer science... it's hard to argue in favor for a PDA. Everybody just uses laptops...
oh, and you can just look at your cellphone's phone-book while talking to somebody, and then just tell them the number... ... why do you even bother asking such simple questions... - -;
deunan
So, in other words you have no real world experience and have no clue as to the needs someone else might have for a PDA. I too keep some numbers on my cell phone. However, the couple of hundred other contacts that I don't use on a regular basis are in my PDA, along with their address, wifes and childrens names and other items I might want to keep track of. Granted that these items are also backed up on my computer, but that doesn't quite fit in my pocket. Not to mention there are about 10 other programs on my PDA that get used on an intermittent basis, and they are always there at my fingertips. Will a PDA ever take over completely for my computer? No. But does it make a great tool when I am out on the road? You bet!
So, in other words you have no real world experience and have no clue as to the needs someone else might have for a PDA. I too keep some numbers on my cell phone. However, the couple of hundred other contacts that I don't use on a regular basis are in my PDA, along with their address, wifes and childrens names and other items I might want to keep track of. Granted that these items are also backed up on my computer, but that doesn't quite fit in my pocket. Not to mention there are about 10 other programs on my PDA that get used on an intermittent basis, and they are always there at my fingertips. Will a PDA ever take over completely for my computer? No. But does it make a great tool when I am out on the road? You bet!
omgggg, why does this post still exist... PDAs are for losers. Get a friggin laptop, and sync it with your iPod. aiyaa.
I got my hands on a Palm Tungsten C and I do like it but it seems really unnessasary. I have a G5 and a 12inch PB. I take my PB almost everywhere so I am not sure I need the Palm. I use it to sync my contacts, address book etc... I have also used it to check my e-mail wirelessly but I can do that with my PB. What are some cool things that I can do with this thing or should I just sell it on E-Bay?
keep in mind the entire post was initiated by somebody who was saying how ... pretty much useless his PDA is/was. - -;
omgggg, why does this post still exist... PDAs are for losers. Get a friggin laptop, and sync it with your iPod. aiyaa.
why bother talking reason to this guy?
It's obvious he's just a very immature person whose priorities are is to look cool around his school mates. Probably what we have here is a kid who afraid of being made fun by his peers of being a 'geek' or 'nerd'... LOL
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Originally posted by deunan
Can i take a math exam with it? Next? Next?? Can it fold my laundry? Next? Will you ever get a girlfriend? Next?
deunan
I guess he's still struggling with his grades and trying to get laid....?
After all the rational viewpoints put forth by other people on the pros and cons of a PDA, all he does is rant on and on about PDAs being useless... it really is pointless to reason with him...
I'm waiting for someone to port an advanced CAS system to Pocket PC. Their processors are really nice now (up to 624MHz) and compact flash is getting in the gigabyte range.
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
I'm waiting for someone to port an advanced CAS system to Pocket PC. Their processors are really nice now (up to 624MHz) and compact flash is getting in the gigabyte range.
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
I'm waiting for someone to port an advanced CAS system to Pocket PC. Their processors are really nice now (up to 624MHz) and compact flash is getting in the gigabyte range.
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
oh yes, I'm also waiting for someone to port Maya 6, SoftImage XSI, Shake, After Effects and Final Cut Pro onto the Pocket PCs and Palms.
Until that happens, I'm going to use PDAs the way they were designed for:
I was thinking the same thing. Matlab is a CLI driven DSPing monster. When I use Matlab it's for image processing and nothings fast enough for that. Not something I want to do on a PDA. Not to mention that fact that I have gigs of images to process.
CAS packages like Maple and Mathematica are really useful and do things an ordinary TI89/92 cannot do. For example, I might be trying to a find closed-form solution to a tough improper integral that a TI92 cannot do. Now, why should I waste several minutes(or hours) invoking the Residue Theorem, drawing contours, finding sigularities and residues and subsituting(etc) when I can do it in seconds on a decent CAS system? Or why should I go hunting for integral tables at the library? If it can't be done even using powerful complex subtitution methods, CAS systems like Maple and Mathematica allow for arbitrary precision for numerical methods. Similar arguements apply to finding solutions of differential equations.
The raw speed and color also is a very good when drawing 3d plots, vector fields, phase plane portraits (eg, a quick way to characterize a differential equation for different initial/boundary conditions) The TI92 is slow at these things, has no color and limited memory.
624MHz is plenty of power. When Maple first came out in the late 1980's, it ran on 16MHz Mac II's very well!
I want a VGA PDA with Maple/Mathematica to replace my TI92.
CAS packages like Maple and Mathmatica are really useful and do things an ordinary TI89/92 cannot do. For example, I might be trying to find closed form solution to a tough improper integral that a TI89 cannot do. Now, why should I waste several minutes(or hours) invoking the Residue Theorem, drawing contours, finding sigularities and residues and subsituting(etc) when I can do it in seconds on a decent CAS system? If it can't be done even using powerful complex subtitution methods, CAS systems like Maple and Mathmatica allow for arbitrary precision for numerical methods. Similar arguements apply to finding solutions of differential equations.
The raw speed and color also is a very good when drawing 3d plots, vector fields, phase plane portraits (eg, a quick way to characterize a differential equation by locating nodal sinks etc) The TI89 is slow at these things and has no color and limited memory.
624MHz is plenty of power. When Maple first came out in the late 1980's, it ran on 16MHz Mac II's just fine!
By the same token, 3D software packages used to run fine on whatever machine that were out at that time. But in 3D programs, there is never too much CPU power, 3D programs like Maya and XSI get more complicated and pack more features like in-built dynamics and fluids. These programs sometimes takes hours just to render a mesh intensive file, or even running a dynamics simulation. Of course in the old days, we can generate graphics like those seen in 'The Genesis Effect' in 'Wraith Of Khan', (which incidently was early work done by Pixar). But with today's computer graphics getting more and more render intensive to generate the photorealistic images using techniques like HDRI or Subsurface Scattering, it requires renders farms instead to realistic meet time deadlines for production purposes.
My point is this: is running or using CPU or math intensive crunching applications initutive on a PDA?
Maybe not. maybe the small screen does not meet the purposes that the specific specialised app requires. Same as trying to do video editing (like Final Cut Pro) on a PDA-like screen.
Would I love the power in my hand to render HDRI 3D scenes files like instantly on my PDA? Hell yeah! Why not, if future tech goes this way,
Are the current PDAs useful to keep track of important business contacts and info/databases to be recalled instantly? Of course!
Can the current PDA run all the myrid simple programs that will make your life easier? Of course!
Features like wireless and built-in low-res cameras are of course bonus assets which many people make use of.
PDAs are after all, a useful tool for many.
And hardly a toy.
Unless of course you need to run Maple and Mathmatica.
Pocket PCs should be taking over the market from Palm soon.
Yeah, people will still be using PDAs.
And yes, I will still be using my Clie or buy some other brand of PDA, be it a PocketPC or Palm) in whatever popular incarnation they might be in the future.
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Originally posted by Scott
Besides ...
How do I keep my appointments on a cell phone? How do I keep my bus schedule on a cell phone? How do I keep a map on a cell phone? When I need a calculator at work how do I do that on a cell phone? How do I do a spreadsheet on a cell phone?
Amazingly enough my cell phone can do all that except for the spreadsheet. It's a little sony ericsson thingy with a camera taboot!
Originally posted by deunan
lol so you're unfortunate enough to not be able to carry a cellphone around. I'm still a student and storing numbers on a cell is well-justified. i think it's just different for me, ... living on a campus which is entirely wireless, whose also number one in computer science... it's hard to argue in favor for a PDA. Everybody just uses laptops...
oh, and you can just look at your cellphone's phone-book while talking to somebody, and then just tell them the number... ... why do you even bother asking such simple questions... - -;
deunan
So, in other words you have no real world experience and have no clue as to the needs someone else might have for a PDA. I too keep some numbers on my cell phone. However, the couple of hundred other contacts that I don't use on a regular basis are in my PDA, along with their address, wifes and childrens names and other items I might want to keep track of. Granted that these items are also backed up on my computer, but that doesn't quite fit in my pocket. Not to mention there are about 10 other programs on my PDA that get used on an intermittent basis, and they are always there at my fingertips. Will a PDA ever take over completely for my computer? No. But does it make a great tool when I am out on the road? You bet!
Originally posted by bunge
Amazingly enough my cell phone can do all that except for the spreadsheet. It's a little sony ericsson thingy with a camera taboot!
Does it have a scientific calculator? That's what I need. How big is the screen?
Next?
Originally posted by cylon
So, in other words you have no real world experience and have no clue as to the needs someone else might have for a PDA. I too keep some numbers on my cell phone. However, the couple of hundred other contacts that I don't use on a regular basis are in my PDA, along with their address, wifes and childrens names and other items I might want to keep track of. Granted that these items are also backed up on my computer, but that doesn't quite fit in my pocket. Not to mention there are about 10 other programs on my PDA that get used on an intermittent basis, and they are always there at my fingertips. Will a PDA ever take over completely for my computer? No. But does it make a great tool when I am out on the road? You bet!
omgggg, why does this post still exist... PDAs are for losers. Get a friggin laptop, and sync it with your iPod. aiyaa.
deunan
Originally posted by Scott
Does it have a scientific calculator? That's what I need. How big is the screen?
Next?
Can i take a math exam with it? Next? Next?? Can it fold my laundry? Next? Will you ever get a girlfriend? Next?
Originally posted by GreggWSmith
Ok,
I got my hands on a Palm Tungsten C and I do like it but it seems really unnessasary. I have a G5 and a 12inch PB. I take my PB almost everywhere so I am not sure I need the Palm. I use it to sync my contacts, address book etc... I have also used it to check my e-mail wirelessly but I can do that with my PB. What are some cool things that I can do with this thing or should I just sell it on E-Bay?
keep in mind the entire post was initiated by somebody who was saying how ... pretty much useless his PDA is/was. - -;
deunan
Originally posted by deunan
Can i take a math exam with it? Next? Next?? Can it fold my laundry? Next? Will you ever get a girlfriend? Next?
I don't need a PDA to do those things.
Next?
Originally posted by deunan
omgggg, why does this post still exist... PDAs are for losers. Get a friggin laptop, and sync it with your iPod. aiyaa.
why bother talking reason to this guy?
It's obvious he's just a very immature person whose priorities are is to look cool around his school mates. Probably what we have here is a kid who afraid of being made fun by his peers of being a 'geek' or 'nerd'... LOL
Originally posted by deunan
Can i take a math exam with it? Next? Next?? Can it fold my laundry? Next? Will you ever get a girlfriend? Next?
I guess he's still struggling with his grades and trying to get laid....?
After all the rational viewpoints put forth by other people on the pros and cons of a PDA, all he does is rant on and on about PDAs being useless... it really is pointless to reason with him...
Two words: CHILL
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
Originally posted by Existence
I'm waiting for someone to port an advanced CAS system to Pocket PC. Their processors are really nice now (up to 624MHz) and compact flash is getting in the gigabyte range.
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
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Originally posted by Existence
I'm waiting for someone to port an advanced CAS system to Pocket PC. Their processors are really nice now (up to 624MHz) and compact flash is getting in the gigabyte range.
Ideally, I'd want a Maple/Mathmatica/Matlab ported. Until then Pocket PCs and other PDAs are just toys.
oh yes, I'm also waiting for someone to port Maya 6, SoftImage XSI, Shake, After Effects and Final Cut Pro onto the Pocket PCs and Palms.
Until that happens, I'm going to use PDAs the way they were designed for:
'Personal Digital Assistant'....
The raw speed and color also is a very good when drawing 3d plots, vector fields, phase plane portraits (eg, a quick way to characterize a differential equation for different initial/boundary conditions) The TI92 is slow at these things, has no color and limited memory.
624MHz is plenty of power. When Maple first came out in the late 1980's, it ran on 16MHz Mac II's very well!
I want a VGA PDA with Maple/Mathematica to replace my TI92.
BTW, Sony is out of the PDA business.
{Edit: sp and grammar}
Originally posted by Existence
CAS packages like Maple and Mathmatica are really useful and do things an ordinary TI89/92 cannot do. For example, I might be trying to find closed form solution to a tough improper integral that a TI89 cannot do. Now, why should I waste several minutes(or hours) invoking the Residue Theorem, drawing contours, finding sigularities and residues and subsituting(etc) when I can do it in seconds on a decent CAS system? If it can't be done even using powerful complex subtitution methods, CAS systems like Maple and Mathmatica allow for arbitrary precision for numerical methods. Similar arguements apply to finding solutions of differential equations.
The raw speed and color also is a very good when drawing 3d plots, vector fields, phase plane portraits (eg, a quick way to characterize a differential equation by locating nodal sinks etc) The TI89 is slow at these things and has no color and limited memory.
624MHz is plenty of power. When Maple first came out in the late 1980's, it ran on 16MHz Mac II's just fine!
By the same token, 3D software packages used to run fine on whatever machine that were out at that time. But in 3D programs, there is never too much CPU power, 3D programs like Maya and XSI get more complicated and pack more features like in-built dynamics and fluids. These programs sometimes takes hours just to render a mesh intensive file, or even running a dynamics simulation. Of course in the old days, we can generate graphics like those seen in 'The Genesis Effect' in 'Wraith Of Khan', (which incidently was early work done by Pixar). But with today's computer graphics getting more and more render intensive to generate the photorealistic images using techniques like HDRI or Subsurface Scattering, it requires renders farms instead to realistic meet time deadlines for production purposes.
My point is this: is running or using CPU or math intensive crunching applications initutive on a PDA?
Maybe not. maybe the small screen does not meet the purposes that the specific specialised app requires. Same as trying to do video editing (like Final Cut Pro) on a PDA-like screen.
Would I love the power in my hand to render HDRI 3D scenes files like instantly on my PDA? Hell yeah! Why not, if future tech goes this way,
Are the current PDAs useful to keep track of important business contacts and info/databases to be recalled instantly? Of course!
Can the current PDA run all the myrid simple programs that will make your life easier? Of course!
Features like wireless and built-in low-res cameras are of course bonus assets which many people make use of.
PDAs are after all, a useful tool for many.
And hardly a toy.
Unless of course you need to run Maple and Mathmatica.
Originally posted by Existence
BTW, Sony is out of the PDA business. [/B]
Pocket PCs should be taking over the market from Palm soon.
Yeah, people will still be using PDAs.
And yes, I will still be using my Clie or buy some other brand of PDA, be it a PocketPC or Palm) in whatever popular incarnation they might be in the future.
Does that mean PDAs suddendly become less useful?
Nope.