The first head rolls : Tenet retired. Merged

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/03/in...D-TENE.html?hp



Tenet is retiring for "personal reasons".
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  • Reply 1 of 38
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by faust9

    Tenet is retiring for "personal reasons".



    Yeah, he had to resign before his book about the incompetence of the Bush administration came out.
  • Reply 2 of 38
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040603/D82VK1G02.html





    OK, that was a bit unexpected. Let the speculation and conspiracy theories continue....







  • Reply 3 of 38
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    Didn't see the other thread. Perhaps because the title wasn't....descriptive.
  • Reply 4 of 38
    shawnjshawnj Posts: 6,656member
    Good. Powell will be next.
  • Reply 5 of 38
    rageousrageous Posts: 2,170member
    I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the Chalabi accusations. WHo knows, but something is going down...
  • Reply 6 of 38
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Yeah, the timing etc is interesting.
  • Reply 7 of 38
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    How long till his Tell-All book comes out?!?!?!?!



    I give it two and a half months . . .maybe three.
  • Reply 8 of 38
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Or rather lack thereof. Sorta like a delayed reaction. Geez why Powell how about Rummy?
  • Reply 9 of 38
    giantgiant Posts: 6,041member
    Quote:

    ... beside the possibility that the White House's favored Iraqi exile was an Iranian agent, that the spy chief just got canned, and that the president has had to retain outside counsel in the investigation into which members of his staff burned one of the country's own spies, I'd say the place is being run like a pretty well-oiled machine.



    From TPM
  • Reply 10 of 38
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    Yeah, he had to resign before his book about the incompetence of the Bush administration came out.



    Hey . . . I said something like that in the other thread!



    I bet its true!
  • Reply 11 of 38
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Nobody likes to take the complete blame for other people's incompetence.
  • Reply 12 of 38
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pfflam

    How long till his Tell-All book comes out?!?!?!?!



    I give it two and a half months . . .maybe three.




    Maybe you'll even write one. It would have about as much credibility.
  • Reply 13 of 38
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
  • Reply 14 of 38
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SDW2001

    Maybe you'll even write one. It would have about as much credibility.



    so tenet has no credibility being the head of the CIA?
  • Reply 15 of 38
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SDW2001

    Maybe you'll even write one. It would have about as much credibility.



    I think there is a term for what you tried to do . .



    yes, the term is prolepsis





    Which used rhetorically refers to the attempt to bypass percieved innevitable criticism or blame by assuming it in advance.



    In other words, you are allready attacking his credibility in order to soften the immanent critique.
  • Reply 16 of 38
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Note : merged SDW thread, and the first head rolls thread.
  • Reply 17 of 38
    burningwheelburningwheel Posts: 1,827member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ShawnJ

    Good. Powell will be next.



    he's the only good thing in the admin. i love him. he's the only sane one of the bunch as Bill Maher says, and i agree. long before the war he was the TIME magazine cover story and he expressed he was against going to war
  • Reply 18 of 38
    wrong robotwrong robot Posts: 3,907member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by running with scissors

    so tenet has no credibility being the head of the CIA?





    No one who says anything bad about the administration has credibility.



    likewise, only conservatives can lie.
  • Reply 19 of 38
    gilschgilsch Posts: 1,995member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by SDW2001

    Maybe you'll even write one. It would have about as much credibility.



    Interesting logic. Let's see. So Bush kept this man in office , even though he has no credibility?

    Not only that, but he used the agency this man runs, the man with no credibility, to gather and provide intelligence to see if going to war with Iraq was necessary to remove an "immediate" threat.



    Edit: Removed the smilies because on second thought, it's not funny when a president uses someone with no credibility to provide "intelligence" necessary to take the nation to war.
  • Reply 20 of 38
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pfflam

    I think there is a term for what you tried to do . .



    yes, the term is prolepsis





    Which used rhetorically refers to the attempt to bypass percieved innevitable criticism or blame by assuming it in advance.



    In other words, you are allready attacking his credibility in order to soften the immanent critique.




    ...as much credibility as Perle, Clarke et al. I wasn't referring to Tenet, I was referring to you.
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