14" iBook owners: Need feedback.
Getting a new notebook for college. Considering 14" iBook or low-end TiBook.
Here are some of my observations:
The 14" iBook's 700MHz 750FX is almost as fast as the TiBook's 667MHz 7455.
14" iBook costs $700 less than the TiBook.
The TiBook has a faster video card and nicer display (Definitely noticeable when both models are side by side).
The iBook has much better Airport reception and a longer battery life.
The TiBooks is one pound lighter than the iBook, but the iBooks appears more rugged.
Since I'm not a gamer, nor the creative type, the 14" iBook makes sense to me. Money is not an issue, and I have considered splurging for the 800MHz TiBook, but I can't see the 20% or so speed improvement being worth the extra cash. I think I'd be better off saving that money and maybe using it to buy a new notebook in 18 months once speed is an issue.
I'm now fairly certain that the 14" iBook is what I want (A 12-inch display is just too small coming from a 17-inch CRT), but I'd like to have some feedback before I check out.
Have any of you had or experienced problems with your iBook? Has something broken? Has the display hinge held up over the months?
Or is the iBook simply the best notebook you've owned?
I'd like to know.
Here are some of my observations:
The 14" iBook's 700MHz 750FX is almost as fast as the TiBook's 667MHz 7455.
14" iBook costs $700 less than the TiBook.
The TiBook has a faster video card and nicer display (Definitely noticeable when both models are side by side).
The iBook has much better Airport reception and a longer battery life.
The TiBooks is one pound lighter than the iBook, but the iBooks appears more rugged.
Since I'm not a gamer, nor the creative type, the 14" iBook makes sense to me. Money is not an issue, and I have considered splurging for the 800MHz TiBook, but I can't see the 20% or so speed improvement being worth the extra cash. I think I'd be better off saving that money and maybe using it to buy a new notebook in 18 months once speed is an issue.
I'm now fairly certain that the 14" iBook is what I want (A 12-inch display is just too small coming from a 17-inch CRT), but I'd like to have some feedback before I check out.
Have any of you had or experienced problems with your iBook? Has something broken? Has the display hinge held up over the months?
Or is the iBook simply the best notebook you've owned?
I'd like to know.
Comments
I say, save the money and the extra pound and get the 12" combo.... and then with the $ you saved get a TiBook as soon as they are updated...
Edit: also this belongs in GD as it is purchasing advice... will the nearest mod please move it? thanks...
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Paul ]</p>
It is true that they have the same resolution, but it's not true to say that they're the "same screen" at different magnifications - although some have said the 14" is dimmer than the 12", from what I've seen the reverse is true. Also, regardless of resolution, everything will be smaller on the iBook's screen. DVDs will be tiny. So will text. You can fit more text on the 14" screen because 10pt text is comfortable on a 14" 1024x768, but it's not comfortable to read on a 12" 1024x768 screen, so you have to use, say, 12pt text, giving you less text on the screen.
EDIT: If the iBook will be your second system, with a desktop at home, then I'd recommend the 12". But if it's going to be your only system, go for the 14". You'll enjoy the extra screen size, and 6 lbs is still pretty light and easy to carry.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Luca Rescigno ]</p>
So has anyone ever damaged an iBook? They seem fairly rugged. Also, since this is a desktop replacement, I was thinking of getting a mouse. Any suggestions? I've been eying the Kensington PocketMouse Pro because of its portability.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: Son of Pismo ]</p>
And Im pretty sure I'll be getting the Apple Pro mouse. Sure its big, but its really good, and I can't stand that light, plastic feel of 3rd party ones.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: digitalandres ]</p>
Of course, I'm purchasing a 15.2inch PowerBook in two weeks so I'm a little contradictory here. (Although it's just as portable- but a lil wider and heavier.. maybe a bit taller too but strikingly similar in size nonetheless.)
I think you'll like the increased portability of the 12inch screen vs. the extra size and weight of the 14inch screen.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: ShawnPatrickJoyce ]</p>
If you are going to be a student you will appreciate the smaller lighter form factor of the little ice book.
good luck deciding
I haven't sustained any heavy damage to my own unit (I watch over mine like a hawk), but I have noticed that he top surface of it has gotten scuffed up quite a lot, despiite the fact that I've been quite gentle with it. Good thing the pure white surface does a good job at hiding embarassing scuff marks or minor scratches. My kudos goes to Jonathan Ive and the gang for that. To see how tough the iBooks really are, read this:
<a href="http://lowendmac.net/lab/02/0801.html" target="_blank">http://lowendmac.net/lab/02/0801.html</a>
Wow.
Now as for mice, I'm in exactly the same position as you. When I use the iBook at home, I've used with it my G4's old puck mouse with a MacAlly iCatch extension, and it bugs the hell out of me. I just flipped through an issue of MacWorld UK the other day and they gave rave reviews for Kensington's PocketMouse. I like the "Pro" model's neat retractable USB cord. Pity it's so damned expensive up here. ($65 CDN)
Have fun with your iBook. WC3 rocks on it.
[ 08-18-2002: Message edited by: rampancy ]</p>
Everyone who has an ibook says that it's plenty fast and i'm sure it is, but not all of them have used a G4 for a period of time (not everyone! please don't flame me). I think you would notice a difference with the powerbook.
this is what i'd say to do; it's worth the extra $700 to me. since money is not an issue, i'd upgrade to a low end powerbook.
that said, and ibook would also due perfectly fine and is a fine computer. I would tend to go for the powerbook, though. (someone had to speak up for the powerbook)
<strong>Since nobody mentioned it, you could always get the 12" iBook for extreme portablilty while away from your desk, and use the VGA connector to plug in your 17" monitor or even bigger if you wanted. Just a suggestion. But really, if I had the money, I would go for the lowend Power Book like I said above. The iBook already (sort of) struggles with OS X (not sure how much 10.2 will help with that). The Power Book will at least be able to run the latest operating system and software 4 years from now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hardly doubt my ibook is struggling with OSX if it was I would have sold it already, and I am sure you will be able to do pretty much any thing on an iBook 3 to 4 years down the road (Probably not games but every day things like Office, Email and Internet and minor Photoshop stuff). But I would wait if you do want a Powerbook because those will most likely get an update pretty quick I think with in the next 6 months or so.
[ 08-19-2002: Message edited by: BrianMacOS ]</p>
Sure, I can afford a TiBook, but why waste money? I'm not a power user and the iBook has more bang for your buck.
I can always get a PowerBook later, when the speed advantage is clear or when I decide I do need a G4 and the ability to play games.
Has anyone had any had any experience using the ibook to run say Access under virtual pc?
I have been leaning towards the 14" ibook but was told it would run like crap under virtual pc.
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<strong>It did sort of come across like I was dissing the iBook in my post above. I guess that OS X runs better on the newer iBooks? I've heard previous complaints about the old ones running a little slugish. </strong><hr></blockquote>
It really annoys me how people love to pooh-pooh the iBook just because it has a G3. My iBook runs 10.1.5 just as well (actually a little better than) my desktop G4/400, which already runs X pretty damn well. And with Jag-Wire, I'm sure that the present generation of iBooks will scream.
ps: I didn't mean that as knock against you, WolfEye...I've just seen a lot of people unfairly bashing the iBook around here.
[ 08-19-2002: Message edited by: rampancy ]</p>
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