[quote]Originally posted by Dennis the Phantom Menace:
<strong>I just got my dual gig and I really don't know why you guys complain about the fan noise. Of course you can hear the fans, but the noise they make is nothing compared to the x86 machines. My dualie is next to my P4 system (I know, I know...) and the P4 is easily 2-3x louder.
So the next time you piss and moan about the fan noise, just be thankfully it isn't a PC.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I thought the same thing, until the fan went into *high
gear*. You may simply be keeping the room you have
Um, There is a reset button on MY new dual 867 Wind-Tunnel tower : just hold down the power button for a few seconds and the machine shuts off.
The eject button is on your keyboard OR you can eject a disk at boot time by holding down your mouse button.
If you have multiple cd/dvd drives, there is a GUI element that allows you to choose which drive will eject - I don't have two drives, but others have mentioned this.
I'm quite happy with my unit. Wishing only for wider motherboard bandwidth and the systems/IC to take advantage of it.
The power button works as "hard shutdown" but not as hard reset button. After Shutdown the disk have to spin up and the monitor is shut oof and on again. For LCDs the last shortens the life of background light.
I would prefer to have a real reset button and I can not understand apple to spare 20 ¢.
I also would prefer to have additional eject buttons for the optical drives even when I used them very seldom.
But think of the behaviour of some copy protected cds for example.
And I've forgotten to mention the absent micro input.
If I want to record something I now have to use a seperate micophone preamplifier. Again a sparin of about 2$.
Very measly for a > 2000? machine.
Speed and all the rest (w/o the noise) is good in my opinion.
<strong>If you have multiple cd/dvd drives, there is a GUI element that allows you to choose which drive will eject - I don't have two drives, but others have mentioned this.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Option (=Alt) + Eject can also be used for the second drive. (as mentioned in the manual...)
Regarding the restart problem: I miss the power button: In order to shut down / restart etc. you only had to press the power button to get the shutdown dialog. And CTRL-Command-Power did restart the machine (as CTRL-ALT-DEL on Windows) I thought there was an alternative key combination for those without a power key but I do not remember the exact combination. Any ideas?
It works on an iBook, so why shouldn't it work on a tower too? Ok it's no the the keyboard, but it's there. Plus there is probably a tiny reset switch somewhere, study the docs.
I have had my dual 1Ghz for three days now. My experience in OSX.1 was limited, so this is new for me in two ways.
Initial impression is similar to the other posts (noise, interior layout, etc.) in addition to some initial frustrations:
1) could not partition my hard disks from the backup CDs
2) could not put OS9 on a separate partition
3) could not figure out how to open my second optical drive (SCSI CDRW)
4) enacting the firewall seemed to erase the settings of my iMac software router
5) took out the hard disk with Jaguar and tried it on my G3 beige. Ran like a bandit, but the G3 w/o Jaguar now takes for ever to boot up. Did it change something in the ROM?
Overall though the package is a very well thought out. The integration between Jaguar and the wind tunnel is flawless. iSub connected w/o a hitch, unlike with other Macs. Logitech mouse, HP printer and Wacom pad work flawlessly.
The real difficulty has been to re-program my own head to get rid of mental barriers. For example, have always thought that the help menu was for wimps and sissys. Now I use it to access functions that otherwise are not accessible through the GUI.
The Apple philosophy is more than just present in this machine, it is omni-present. I understand why UNIX users would love it: minimal mental effort required to do daily tasks, full programming power, simplicity for hardware swapping and nice enough looks to keep anyone's wife (husband?) from trying to sweep it into the bedroom.
2) Nothing more simple than this: Just copy the OS9 folder to an other partition after using der restore CDs.
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It's a pity that MacOS9 will not boot from the 100 MHz IDE bus (the hanging disks). I installed Mac OS 9 on a second drive which I installed in the front (66 MHz) bays. Now I can boot from OS 9, but my partions on the main drive do not mount.
The Option Eject combination opens the Superdrive just like the Eject key. Perhaps it is because of the fact that due of the tight space in back for the SCSI nappe I had to put that drive on top? Both drives show up on the architectual layout so they are being identified.
On the G3 I tried resetting the PRAM, even took the battery out.
Copying OS9 to another partition? Apple doesn't let you from the CDs so I didn't even think of trying!
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<strong>I just got my dual gig and I really don't know why you guys complain about the fan noise. Of course you can hear the fans, but the noise they make is nothing compared to the x86 machines. My dualie is next to my P4 system (I know, I know...) and the P4 is easily 2-3x louder.
So the next time you piss and moan about the fan noise, just be thankfully it isn't a PC.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I thought the same thing, until the fan went into *high
gear*. You may simply be keeping the room you have
your Mac in cool enough that it never does.
Atros
The eject button is on your keyboard OR you can eject a disk at boot time by holding down your mouse button.
If you have multiple cd/dvd drives, there is a GUI element that allows you to choose which drive will eject - I don't have two drives, but others have mentioned this.
I'm quite happy with my unit. Wishing only for wider motherboard bandwidth and the systems/IC to take advantage of it.
J
The power button works as "hard shutdown" but not as hard reset button. After Shutdown the disk have to spin up and the monitor is shut oof and on again. For LCDs the last shortens the life of background light.
I would prefer to have a real reset button and I can not understand apple to spare 20 ¢.
I also would prefer to have additional eject buttons for the optical drives even when I used them very seldom.
But think of the behaviour of some copy protected cds for example.
And I've forgotten to mention the absent micro input.
If I want to record something I now have to use a seperate micophone preamplifier. Again a sparin of about 2$.
Very measly for a > 2000? machine.
Speed and all the rest (w/o the noise) is good in my opinion.
<strong>If you have multiple cd/dvd drives, there is a GUI element that allows you to choose which drive will eject - I don't have two drives, but others have mentioned this.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Option (=Alt) + Eject can also be used for the second drive. (as mentioned in the manual...)
Regarding the restart problem: I miss the power button: In order to shut down / restart etc. you only had to press the power button to get the shutdown dialog. And CTRL-Command-Power did restart the machine (as CTRL-ALT-DEL on Windows) I thought there was an alternative key combination for those without a power key but I do not remember the exact combination. Any ideas?
It works on an iBook, so why shouldn't it work on a tower too? Ok it's no the the keyboard, but it's there. Plus there is probably a tiny reset switch somewhere, study the docs.
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Initial impression is similar to the other posts (noise, interior layout, etc.) in addition to some initial frustrations:
1) could not partition my hard disks from the backup CDs
2) could not put OS9 on a separate partition
3) could not figure out how to open my second optical drive (SCSI CDRW)
4) enacting the firewall seemed to erase the settings of my iMac software router
5) took out the hard disk with Jaguar and tried it on my G3 beige. Ran like a bandit, but the G3 w/o Jaguar now takes for ever to boot up. Did it change something in the ROM?
Overall though the package is a very well thought out. The integration between Jaguar and the wind tunnel is flawless. iSub connected w/o a hitch, unlike with other Macs. Logitech mouse, HP printer and Wacom pad work flawlessly.
The real difficulty has been to re-program my own head to get rid of mental barriers. For example, have always thought that the help menu was for wimps and sissys. Now I use it to access functions that otherwise are not accessible through the GUI.
The Apple philosophy is more than just present in this machine, it is omni-present. I understand why UNIX users would love it: minimal mental effort required to do daily tasks, full programming power, simplicity for hardware swapping and nice enough looks to keep anyone's wife (husband?) from trying to sweep it into the bedroom.
1) Shure, you can. I did it. Just after booting with CD click on the CD symbol and start the hards disk utility placed there.
2) Nothing more simple than this: Just copy the OS9 folder to an other partition after using der restore CDs.
5) Try to reset the PRAM
<strong>to Scot2s number:
2) Nothing more simple than this: Just copy the OS9 folder to an other partition after using der restore CDs.
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It's a pity that MacOS9 will not boot from the 100 MHz IDE bus (the hanging disks). I installed Mac OS 9 on a second drive which I installed in the front (66 MHz) bays. Now I can boot from OS 9, but my partions on the main drive do not mount.
Option + Eject is the key combination to eject the lower optical drive.
this should have nothing to do with the IDE ports.
It works in my dual.
Perhaps you formatted this drive not with HFS+ ?
Then it would be no wonder.
On the G3 I tried resetting the PRAM, even took the battery out.
Copying OS9 to another partition? Apple doesn't let you from the CDs so I didn't even think of trying!
You can also backup to a CD and then copy it back to a HD, that is NO problem at all and I have done that at least 10 times.
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