Gave in and bought a dual 1.25

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Before the new Power Macs were announced in August, I was hoping to see something along the lines of 1.4 GHz with a faster FSB that could take full advantage of DDR. I was fairly disappointed when what was announced topped out at 1.25 GHz, especially since it wasn't "real" DDR.



When I went into my local Apple store today, however, and started playing with one of the new dual 1.25 gig systems today, damned if it didn't seem very snappy. Many applications launched in a single bounce of the Dock icon. PhotoShop launches and finishes all of its start-up ritual in 10 seconds, as opposed to 21 seconds on my 800 MHz TiBook.



Some processor-intensive Java benchmarks I tried ran 60-70% faster, and that's without taking advantage of dual processors.



So, I ended up buying a new Power Mac. It's the standard 1.25 GHz configuration, plus another 512 MB to bring it up to 1 GB of RAM. I bought the Power Mac itself at the Apple Store, and the memory at a little place called MacEdge, which was selling 512 MB DDR at (no surprise) much-better-than-Apple prices.



I still think Apple should be doing better than it's doing now in the performance arena, nevertheless, this system is a noticeable improvement over my TiBook, and I didn't feel like waiting in suspense for The Next Big Thing, whenever that might be. If the next generation of Power Macs really is a big leap over the current models, there's always eBay



As for noise: In the store it was hard to tell, but now that I've got the new Power Mac home, it's definitely much louder than my TiBook, which is whisper-quiet most of the time, but it's comparable to my Compaq PC and my ex-wife's eMac (which is in the same room with the new Power Mac -- but that's a long story!). It's loudest starting up, like many have said, but settles down quickly to a typical tower PC's sound level.



Having been accustomed to the quiet of my TiBook, I'll be tempted to try out some fan replacement surgery -- nevertheless, anyone who's lived with a typical PC should be able to cope with a new Power Mac out-of-the-box as is.
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  • Reply 1 of 24
    Congrats . Its a shame more people arent like you. Alot of mac users have a tendency to get themselves hyped up about machines that will arrive in the distant future and that they have no idea really what will come with the update. Then when the update comes and theyve got themselve so worked up about the 2ghz G5 they were expecting, the machines apple actually does release seem "slow" or something and then descide to again wait longer for the next update.



    The current machines are rediculously fast, maybe intel's latest can do some stuff a few seconds quicker, who gives a ****. The powermacs that come out in 6 months from now will be fast, who gives a ****. Get a new computer when you need one. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    My quicksilver 867 and B&W G3 400 are doing just fine for the time being. When they arent, ill buy a new comp, not push off buying a new one for half a year because a comp thats a little faster will be out.



    argh sorry for flaming, gotta get it out of my system. $0.02
  • Reply 2 of 24
    i've been using a dual 1 gig for the past week and they are _damn_ fast!
  • Reply 3 of 24
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    If it hasn't been delivered yet, you might want to downgrade to a DP 1Ghz, you get the same FSB but less L3. Still early test suggest the top PM is no more than 20% faster, max, and in effect not more than about 10% faster in most tasks. Certainly NOT worth the premium over the DP 1Ghz since both machines will handily outrun your TiBook.
  • Reply 4 of 24
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>If it hasn't been delivered yet, you might want to downgrade to a DP 1Ghz, you get the same FSB but less L3. Still early test suggest the top PM is no more than 20% faster, max, and in effect not more than about 10% faster in most tasks. Certainly NOT worth the premium over the DP 1Ghz since both machines will handily outrun your TiBook.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Too late... but I don't mind. I bought the 1.25 dual right then and there at the Apple Store in Salem, NH. It's not like the TiBook isn't enough to suit all of my practical needs anyway. If I'm buying purely on the basis of toy appeal, why not go for the gusto?
  • Reply 5 of 24
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
    Congrats.



    I hope some day I will be able to go itno an Apple Store, paly around with the top of the line a bit, say to my self "Why my. This thing is actually a fine machine" and then go to the counter and buy it.
  • Reply 6 of 24
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Yeah no kidding.



    The Salem store is nice. It's the only one I've been to so far! Apple is on the right track.



    Though I'm addicted to laptops now
  • Reply 7 of 24
    That's my favorite Apple Store because they don't charge sales tax in New Hampshire. Unfortunately, I'm in California just south of Cupertino where the tax is 8%. So we have to mail order from out of state to skip the extra $260 and get a free 512MB stick for our trouble.



    Now if Apple would just announce Free FCP 3.0.2 or eMagic Logic 5 with a tower purchase I will stop waiting and buy one of those dual 1.25 GHz beasts.
  • Reply 8 of 24
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    Well I thk 20% is quite a lot, but I agree for value for money it is usually better to get the number 2 model. No2 is usually faster then the previous top of the range.
  • Reply 9 of 24
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    Hope you get the mileage out of it that you need, shetline. I couldn't afford one right now if I wanted one so waiting isn't so hard in that sense. Anyway Have fun!



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  • Reply 10 of 24
    Throwing all caution to the wind, I've got two Thermaltake CPU fans on their way to me by mail. I'm going to boldly void my warranty and do some noise reduction surgery on my new G4's power supply (as per this <a href="http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/g4_mirrored_drive_doors/noise_reduction/g4_ddr_noise_reduction.html"; target="_blank">article</a>).



    It's not that I think this thing is as terribly noisy as some people seem to imply, but I'd still like to get as close to the level of quiet that I'm used to from using a TiBook all this time up until now.



    (Of course, if anything non-fan related goes wrong with this computer during warranty, I'll put it back to as close as I can to original condition and pretend nothing was ever touched. )



    [ 09-24-2002: Message edited by: shetline ]</p>
  • Reply 11 of 24
    moogsmoogs Posts: 4,296member
    "What do you mean you can't fix it under warranty because the fans have been tampered with?? This is an outrage, sir!"



  • Reply 12 of 24
    [quote]Originally posted by Moogs:

    <strong>"What do you mean you can't fix it under warranty because the fans have been tampered with?? This is an outrage, sir!"



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I swear, it was like that when I bought it!



  • Reply 13 of 24
    greetings,



    i'm falling in love with my dual-1-ghz box. i'm not doing heavy lifting with it yet but for all other purposes, it's a dream.



    if you're looking to buy a new mac, really take a look at these machines because even w/o real DDR, they're nice and they're dual.



    na
  • Reply 14 of 24
    Yeah, my dual 1 Ghz mirror face is fantastic for me as well. Honestly, it's really fast. WarCraft 3 is gorgeous and smooth as glass even at pretty high resolution (can't remember if WC3 goes to 1280x1024... if not, it's at 1024x768) with all effects on and turned as high as they'll go. I rip CDs to MP3 at 22-23x at 192 kbps, it does 7 GFlops, it never crashes, OS X is super smooth and nice and quick on this Mac... I'm really, really happy with it. I can't imagine anybody actually being disappointed with any of these new Macs, for any reason.
  • Reply 15 of 24
    just wondering if someone could confirm that the new 1.25's use a Mot G4 chip in them... seems strange that we haven't seen a press release or updated info on the Mot site for the new chips... Makes you wonder if they're just overclocked chips or someone else (IBM - quietly) is producing them for Apple...



    hmmm
  • Reply 16 of 24
    thttht Posts: 3,228member
    <strong>Originally posted by mavster:

    just wondering if someone could confirm that the new 1.25's use a Mot G4 chip in them... seems strange that we haven't seen a press release or updated info on the Mot site for the new chips... Makes you wonder if they're just overclocked chips or someone else (IBM - quietly) is producing them for Apple...</strong>





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    By Michael A. Mendicino, Craig S. Lage, DigitalDNA Laboratories, CMOS Platform Technology Development, Motorola Corp., Austin, Texas

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    September 23, 2002 (4:20 p.m. EST)



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  • Reply 17 of 24
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    Well. I don't own the One-Eye Mike(tm).....only played with it for a few days. But I DO own a Dual GHz SlowSilver(tm).



    In many cases (except tasks that involve heavy disk read/write) my SlowSilver smokes the Dual GHz One-Eye Mike.



    I am not too happy with my SlowSilver. And that Mikey is even worse than what I feel not happy with. I will say I am disappointed.



    Don't even get me to the 1.2Ghz one. The price preminum just isn't worth it.
  • Reply 18 of 24
    ...heh, I bought a Dual 867 for $1699 and just overclocked it to a Dual 1GHz. The supa loud fan speed only comes on when I'm doing absolutely flat out stuff like dnet. Rest of the time the lowest speed setting stays on. Heavy duty encoding kicks it up to the mid level fan speed, but usually just for a sec or two.
  • Reply 19 of 24
    what i would like is some more graphics power (rage 128 pro)...a nice shadowy cursor would make my day sometimes <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 20 of 24
    the speed of the dual 1 gig mirrors is just amazing. i have been using one for a week and everything is snappy and opens in one bounce.
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