Are the Apple Displays way too expensive?

gibagiba
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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Today I contemplated about getting one of the new ACD... so I went to the Apple store website, and saw the ACDs are now "starting at $1299"! While I know the quality of ACDs justify their price, don't you think Apple should offer some models within the $500 ~ $700 range? like the kind of displays cost we've been used to, Apple or not?
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Dell 2001FP is a very nice 20.1in LCD that supports 1600x1200 with a 16ms response time, it sells for usually less than $700 from Dell since it is always on sale. I wouldn't mind seeing an Apple monitor using that same panel but with a bezel that matches their other products in the $800~ range. $1300 is almost as much as I paid for my entire PC w/ 20in LCD included.
  • Reply 2 of 27
    gibagiba Posts: 99member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mynameis

    Dell 2001FP is a very nice 20.1in LCD that supports 1600x1200 with a 16ms response time, it sells for usually less than $700 from Dell since it is always on sale. I wouldn't mind seeing an Apple monitor using that same panel but with a bezel that matches their other products in the $800~ range. $1300 is almost as much as I paid for my entire PC w/ 20in LCD included.



    Good suggestions... but I think I'll go schizophrenic if I use a Dell display with my Mac.
  • Reply 3 of 27
    ipodandimacipodandimac Posts: 3,273member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by giba

    Today I contemplated about getting one of the new ACD... so I went to the Apple store website, and saw the ACDs are now "starting at $1299"! While I know the quality of ACDs justify their price, don't you think Apple should offer some models within the $500 ~ $700 range? like the kind of displays cost we've been used to, Apple or not?



    i agree they are over priced, but theyre pieces of art and display incredible images (even my "low end" 20 incher). having one next to a G5 looks really hot.
  • Reply 4 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    There are other companies that sell LCD monitors that use the same panel as the Dell 2001FP. I think Viewsonic and NEC are a couple of them, they just aren't as cheap as the Dell. I don't see why apple couldn't just use it to make a display.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    cheapfragcheapfrag Posts: 91member
    The little things are what seperate apple displays and make them a premium player in the market. All aluminum enclosure, usb hubs, firewire hub, single cable coming out of the monitor which breaks out into multiple cables at the computer (i cant believe other manufacturers haven't jumped on this feature, its so nice). The displays are high quality, I almost fell out of my shoes drooling over a pair of 20 inchers at my mac dealer the other day... if only i weren't saving for a house!



    but apple works hard to come up with these little 'niceties' which make using the product enjoyable. most lcd makers have very little R&D budget. They contract out to get a case design and simply drop in a panel and ship it. low cost high volume makes you money in that market.



    just my opinion.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    bnoyhtuawbbnoyhtuawb Posts: 456member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by giba

    Today I contemplated about getting one of the new ACD... so I went to the Apple store website, and saw the ACDs are now "starting at $1299"! While I know the quality of ACDs justify their price, don't you think Apple should offer some models within the $500 ~ $700 range? like the kind of displays cost we've been used to, Apple or not?



    In place of a 23" from apple you can get the L2335 from HP and save 500+ bucks depending on where you buy (and it comes with 3 years on site guarantee vs 1 year bring-in from Apple!

    http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/m...tft/l2335.html





    Or if you need the stylish fancy stuff get this (for about the same price as the Apple 23":

    http://www.shopping.hp.com/cgi-bin/h...ABA&catLevel=3





    They are too expensive any by no means better!



    N. B. IMHO this does not apply to Apple Computers!
  • Reply 7 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BNOYHTUAWB

    In place of a 23" from apple you can get the L2335 from HP and safe 500+ bucks depending on where you buy (and it comes with 3 years on site guarantee vs 1 year bring-in from Apple!

    http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/m...tft/l2335.html







    thats awesome.
  • Reply 8 of 27
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    The viewing angles on the Cinemas is spectacular. I haven't seen any other flatpanel that comes close to comparing.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    The viewing angles on the Cinemas is spectacular. I haven't seen any other flatpanel that comes close to comparing.



    It is the same as the HP that BNOYHTUAWB linked to, the HP has a higher contrast ratio but has a lower brightness.
  • Reply 10 of 27
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,436member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mynameis

    It is the same as the HP that BNOYHTUAWB linked to, the HP has a higher contrast ratio but has a lower brightness.



    Unless you've actually seen both monitors you can't say this. Monitors are really the easiest purchase to make. You simply go with what makes your eyes the happiest. Frankly I don't care about the specs as there may be trickery behind them.



    I think Apple's 23" is priced fairly. The 20" should have been $1099 but Apple got greedy here.
  • Reply 11 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hmurchison

    there may be trickery behind them.



    That is true, especially with response times.
  • Reply 12 of 27
    crunchinjellycrunchinjelly Posts: 34member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ipodandimac

    ...theyre pieces of art...



    What he said.



    Have you ever seen another display that comes close to looking as kick-ass as an Apple Display? I haven't.



    It's like every other piece of hardware Apple produces, they charge more because they've probably got a design team of a 100 people creating what normal companies have office junior's creating.



    Apple is style. Apple is substance.
  • Reply 13 of 27
    carson o'geniccarson o'genic Posts: 1,279member
    I don't know folks. I would like to get an Apple 23" in the near future, but I looked at it at the Apple store in SF and it had that magneta cast that has been talked about. It was very obviously pink. I would not spend that kind of maoney on something that doesn't just wow me over. I'm likley to continue to use my CRT until Apple fixes the 23". Otherwise i may have to consider the HP.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    I think Apple displays are probably the most competitively priced displays made. The resolution, and HD standards are of superior quality. Apple displays at their introductions are always beyond the competitions, and they are the envy of the other manufacturers. When the competition pulls close Apple usually upgrades the line to give them an additional gap in resolution over the competition that never seems to catch up. Nobody else can produce a 30" HD display at that quality at that price. Side, by side they wouldn't stand a chance.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Apple doesn't make their own LCD panels.
  • Reply 16 of 27
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mynameis

    Apple doesn't make their own LCD panels.



    Of course not. They do, however, set very strict tolerances for what they'll buy (not all parts in the same line are of the same quality any more than every 970fx can run at the same clock speed), and they do a great job of engineering the backlights and the electronics to get the most out of the panels they do use.



    That's not to say that they're perfect (the magenta 23" being the latest example) but when they're good, they're damn good.



    Of course, if that level of quality is not important to you, go ahead and get a cheaper one. I've been using a Dell 17" flat panel at work, and for what I need it to do it does a fine job.
  • Reply 17 of 27
    gibagiba Posts: 99member
    Ok... so I'm going to buy a non-Apple LCD to save some bucks... before I've tried out some LCD in my office and the screen all have a fuzzy look to it... someone said it's due the font compression that Mac OS X does. What do I need to look for in an LCD to ensure that the picture would show up crisp and clear? I'm using a PowerBook 12" G4 1.33
  • Reply 18 of 27
    bnoyhtuawbbnoyhtuawb Posts: 456member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    The viewing angles on the Cinemas is spectacular. I haven't seen any other flatpanel that comes close to comparing.



    L2335 perfoms in all respects equal or better than the Apple 23"! ... and has more features for less bucks!
  • Reply 19 of 27
    bnoyhtuawbbnoyhtuawb Posts: 456member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mynameis

    It is the same as the HP that BNOYHTUAWB linked to, the HP has a higher contrast ratio but has a lower brightness.



    I actually got the chance to compare the Apple 23" and the HP L2335 side by side ... since then I own a HP L2335!

    Mac OS X even has a built-in ColorSync profile for that display (recognizes it if connected via DVI)!



    BTW I just tried the L2335 together with a iBook G3 800MHz (ATI Radeon 7500) using the spanning hack (http://macparts.de/ibook/) and guess what?[list=a][*]it works[*]goes up to the full 1920x1200 pixels[*]no screen adjustments needed (just press "auto") although I'm using a VGA cable from the iBook VGA-adaptor to the VGA port (i. e. no DVI converter)[*]the iBook recognizes the screen (how?) and offers to apply the ColorSync profile![/list=a]
  • Reply 20 of 27
    mynameismynameis Posts: 74member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BNOYHTUAWB

    the spanning hack



    Holy crap, thats awesome. I always thought it was kind of wierd that you couldn't go above 1024x768 on an iBook when put to an external monitor and for that reason I would have never considered buying an iBook, but now I may have to look into them. Why does apple handicap their iBooks like that?
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