Official Apple iBook Announcement

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  • Reply 1 of 25
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Looks like a nice bump, everything that was definitely expected (100 MHz bump, 30GB drive on 12.1" combo model), the bonus about the Mobility Radeon 7500 that was debated, and also the combo drive now writes CD-R at 16x (I think the last generation wrote at 8x). Combined with a $200 price drop, they got it right for the holiday season.



    One gripe: they still stubbornly refuse to allow spanning... hopefully a similar hack will enable it?
  • Reply 2 of 25
    escherescher Posts: 1,811member
    Darn. I'm so tempted to buy a new 12" Combo iBook for $1300 instead of paying $300 to repair the flaky backlight on my May 2001 iBook (and $250 to MCE for a Combo drive upgrade).



    IMHO, it's the price reductions that make the new iBooks and PowerBooks very competitive.



    Escher
  • Reply 3 of 25
    gnomgnom Posts: 85member
    I'm pleased, the 12" Combo is gonna be mine in (hopefully) a few days.

    Only thing I'm missing a little bit is Bluetooth.





    cheers.
  • Reply 4 of 25
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    [quote]Originally posted by MCQ:

    <strong>...and also the combo drive now writes CD-R at 16x (I think the last generation wrote at 8x).</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Holy crap! I hadn't noticed that. This is one HELL of a good deal.



    The Combo Drive in the PowerBook only burns CD-R at 8x.



    Might have to grab another one of these babies.
  • Reply 5 of 25
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Uh oh, Murbot buying another Mac? What a surprise! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Actually... I might sell my 700 iBook and get one of these, the revision is good enough that I'm considering it.



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: MCQ ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 25
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    Man, you sold yours about a week too late.



    heh heh



    &lt;pats self on back&gt;



  • Reply 7 of 25
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Oh yeah, one more thing... is there a particular reason that none of their pages say that the Mobility Radeon 7500 comes with 32MB of DDR SDRAM, they just say "32MB of dedicated memory"?
  • Reply 8 of 25
    Just ordered my first ibook <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

    Have and old indigo imac and now a new 800 combo ibook. I can't wait to go to class with that baby!
  • Reply 9 of 25
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    Apple is finally doing something right.



    Sigh. The ibook I bought six months ago seems like a pathetic piece of hardware now...
  • Reply 10 of 25
    I am so pissed at Apple right now...I seriously just took out a loan to buy a 600 MHz iBook from PowerMax for $1081 with shipping and a 256 MB memory upgrade. Now I can get a 100 MHz more powerful machine with better graphics for the same price or less...blah!



    So, my question is, for any of you engineer-types out there, what are the upgrade prospects of the now-previous generation iBooks? I know the memory maxes out at 640 MB, but is the processor upgradeable?



    With all the life being pumped into the dimunitive 2400c - they are planning yet another G3 upgrade for it - I thought that there should be some hope for the iBook. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Nick Smerker ]</p>
  • Reply 11 of 25
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nick Smerker:

    <strong>I am so pissed at Apple right now...I seriously just took out a loan to buy a 600 MHz iBook from PowerMax for $1081 with shipping and a 256 MB memory upgrade. Now I can get a 100 MHz more powerful machine with better graphics for the same price or less...blah!



    So, my question is, for any of you engineer-types out there, what are the upgrade prospects of the now-previous generation iBooks? I know the memory maxes out at 640 MB, but is the processor upgradeable?



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Nick Smerker ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Unfortunately, that's the nature of the biz. Constantly better equipment for less $. I don't believe any of Apple's laptops are upgradable.



    I sympathize with you (you're a newbie here I see). Next time, you need to hang out here at AI and waste hours of your life listening to rumorus of upcoming new releases. While they don't all pan out, it's somewhat useful in getting a sense of where a product is in it's upgrade cycle.
  • Reply 12 of 25
    Actually, I have been following AppleInsider (as well as MacOS Rumors) for a number of years. I was using a 2400c for quite a long time (I had been following their mailing list, too) and I got the bright idea to switch to a Sony VAIO. I really wanted to be able to take advantage of my NetMD.



    So, after selling the 2400c, being ripped off by eBay sellers twice and losing $830 to a con artist in Hungary, I was left a student with no money and no computer.



    I scoured the web for the best deal imaginable RIGHT NOW and purchased my iBook. I had no idea that Apple would be upgrading by the end of the month when I made my purchase on 10/14. Now I am feeling very jaded.



    I wish I could upgrade this machine...I was hoping that since the PowerBook G3 series got upgrades, maybe I could too. Ciest la vie...I guess since I was making a 2400c/180/80/10 work for me, the iBook is a huge improvement.



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Nick Smerker ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 25
    Apple is competitive once again... Just checked to see how the new iBooks compare price wise to comparably equipped Dell laptops. This is the most comparable I could configure. Only a slight price premium for the iBook compared to the Dell. Well worth it when you consider the apps that come with the iBook compared to the Dell. Plus the case on the Dell laptops leaves a lot to be desired. The processor may not be as fast and the Bus speed of the iBook is lacking in comparison, but I still think the iBook is a great laptop. Especially the 12" model for $1299. That is probably the best deal overall. Good job Apple, looks like I may switch from my crappy Toshiba laptop after all...



    Inspiron 2650

    Price: $1,646.00



    1.7 GHz Mobile Pentium® 4 processor

    14.1" XGA Display

    512MB 200MHZ 2 DIMMS

    32MB DDR 4X AGP NVIDIA GeForce2 Go?Video

    40GB Ultra ATA 5400 RPM Hard Drive

    Floppy Drive

    Microsoft® Windows® XP Home

    Integrated Network Card

    Internal 56k Modem

    Dual USB Ports

    24XCD-RW/DVD Combo Drive with Roxios Easy CD Creator®

    Microsoft®Works Suite 2002 w/ Money 2002

    Norton Antivirus® 2002, 90-day introductory offer

    Dell Jukebox powered by MusicMatch

    59 WHr Lithium-Ion Battery

    1 Year Limited Warranty plus 1 Year Mail-In Service

    6 Months of America Online Membership Included

    Dell Picture Studio, Image Expert Standard



    Apple iBook 14"

    Price $1739 (after $110 promotional savings)



    ? 800MHz Power PC G3 processor

    ? 14.1" TFT XGA display

    ? 640MB SDRAM (128MB built-in & 512MB SO-DIMM)

    ? ATI Mobility RADEON 7500 w/ 32MB VRAM

    ? 40GB Ultra ATA drive

    ? Mac OS X & Mac OS 9 included

    ? Integrated Network Card

    ? Internal 56k Modem

    ? Integrated Firewire Port

    ? Dual USB Ports

    ? 16xDVD-ROM/CD-RW Combo drive

    ? Quicken 2003 Deluxe, World Book 2003 Edition, Otto Matic and Deimos Rising

    ? 5 Hour Lithium-Ion Battery

    ? iTunes, iMovie, iCal, iPhoto
  • Reply 14 of 25
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    [quote]Originally posted by satchmo:

    <strong>



    Unfortunately, that's the nature of the biz. Constantly better equipment for less $. I don't believe any of Apple's laptops are upgradable.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    i have it on good authority that at least one major mac upgrade manufacturer is creating g4 upgrades for the ibook line, to hopefully debut in March. they will start off in 500 mhz range g4's for the first line of ibooks. you'll have to do the standard (send it in, wait a week, get it back" dealio, but if you've got an older ibook, there is hope.



    i have also been told by the same person that they were not pursuing ANY g4 upgrade for my imac dv se (400 mhz g3), which is why i finally just sold it.



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: rok ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 25
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    Would love to hear from someone who's at an Apple Store checking out the 800 models.



    With the added speedier video card along with 100 more mhz, I wonder how Jaguar runs on it.
  • Reply 16 of 25
    evoevo Posts: 198member
    Overall, it looks like a good update. I'm curious as to why they are still using 100mhz busses though, and G3 processors.



    I guess they are a bit more competitive now. Knowing Apple, it will probably be another 8-12 months before they update it again though.
  • Reply 17 of 25
    proxyproxy Posts: 232member
    And now everything except the classic imac is QE compliant. About time. Love the new range. That bottom price should bring in a whole new market of buyers to apple.



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: Proxy ]</p>
  • Reply 18 of 25
    escherescher Posts: 1,811member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nick Smerker:

    <strong>I was using a 2400c for quite a long time...

    I scoured the web for the best deal imaginable RIGHT NOW and purchased my iBook.... Ciest la vie...I guess since I was making a 2400c/180/80/10 work for me, the iBook is a huge improvement.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Nick: You honestly should not feel bad. If you managed to keep your Comet until 2002, you obviously don't have issues with feature envy and compulsive upgrading like so many people here. I went from a PB 2400c/180/80/6 to an iBook/500/320/10 in May 2001. Before I had been using FireWire and USB PC Cards on my 2400c and had to carry the power adapter all the time because the battery was getting old and weak. Even though the iBook is slightly heavier than the 2400c, it is lighter overall because I don't have to carry PC Cards and a power adapter, not to mention that it runs OS X fabulously.



    I suggest that you do with your new iBook/600 what you did with your 2400c--use it to its full potential for as long as you can. Sure the new iBooks are tempting, but do you or I really need them? No. So we should just stick with what we have now.



    Of course, if you hadn't been so naive as to send $830 to a con artist in Hungary, you would have had enough money for a PowerBook. I still don't understand how so many people send cash (equivalents) to sellers in Eastern Europe for electronics at prices that are simply too good to be true. I've only gotten scammed by pushy sales people in NYC photo stores.



    Escher
  • Reply 19 of 25
    proxyproxy Posts: 232member
    And now everything except the classic imac is QE compliant. About time. Love the new range. That bottom price should bring in a whole new market of buyers to apple. How unbelievably are they now?!
  • Reply 20 of 25
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by eVo:

    <strong>Overall, it looks like a good update. I'm curious as to why they are still using 100mhz busses though, and G3 processors.

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I don't know why they still have a G3, but the iMacs still have 100MHz buses so until those get 133MHz buses I think the iBook will continue to have a 100MHz bus.



    [ 11-06-2002: Message edited by: EmAn ]</p>
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