Do you watch people suffer on news/tv for entertainment purposes?

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Honestly if a person just watches the news and sees people suffer and yet does not do anything about it (like personally donating time, money, clothing or etc) these poor people are reduced to nothing more then a form of entertainment ?



Do you watch the news just to say that you "know something" to entertain-yourself or in an attempt to impress people with your vast-knowledge or do you actually "do" something to help these people in need.





note: depending on the government to do it for you doesn't count
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  • Reply 1 of 24
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    Honestly if a person just watches the news and sees people suffer and yet does not do anything about it (like personally donating time, money, clothing or etc) these poor people are reduced to nothing more then a form of entertainment ?



    Do you watch the news just to say that you "know something" to entertain-yourself or in an attempt to impress people with your vast-knowledge or do you actually "do" something to help these people in need.





    note: depending on the government to do it for you doesn't count




    Do you just post to do moral lessons ?
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  • Reply 2 of 24
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Powerdoc

    Do you just post to do moral lessons ?



    Do you oppose for the sole sake of opposing?



    To not act upon what one knows is heartless.
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  • Reply 3 of 24
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    Do you oppose for the sole sake of opposing?



    To not act upon what one knows is heartless.




    No, you give, because your heart dictate you to do so. Not because it's a moral obligation.



    The tsunami is a terrible disaster, but there is also a lot of terrible disasters all around the world, who do not benefit of the same mediatic coverage. Unfortunately the sum of those disasters kill way more people. Malaria kill 2 millions people each year, but it's not a mediatic case : there is no moving heart images.



    It's good that people (me included) in the early hours gave some money to those people, but I think it would be hateful, if it turn, in a generosity contest limited to this single event. I hate people who claim to be more generous than others. I love the anonymous people who gave for the tsunamis, because their heart dictate this, without been vocal about it. I hate when giving money is becoming a political argument
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  • Reply 4 of 24
    giaguaragiaguara Posts: 2,724member
    johnsocal, tell me. do you either not watch TV at all, or do you donate your money and time to actually change what you see? ie charities etc?
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  • Reply 5 of 24
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    Originally posted by Powerdoc

    No you give, because your heart dictate you to do so. Not because it's a moral obligation.



    The tsunami is a terrible disaster, but there is also a lot of terrible disasters all around the world, who do not benefit of the same mediatic coverage. Unfortunately the sum of those disasters kill way more people. Malaria kill 2 millions people each year, but it's not a mediatic case : there is no moving heart images.



    It's good that people (me included) in the early hours gave some money to those people, but I think it would be hateful, if it turn, in a generosity contest limited to this single event.




    Who said that generosity should be limited to single event or should stop as soon as the entertainment value of a particular news story fades?



    I believe that many people (intentionally and unintentionally) confuse themselves to a particular point that they become mentally paralyzed/confused. These very same people when then use their confusion as a justification (or rationalization) as a reason that prevents themselves from acting upon the knowledge they have because they are either lazy or fear the consequences of making a choice.



    All I can say is help an individual who needs it and don't wreck a good apology with a poor excuse.
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  • Reply 6 of 24
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    Originally posted by Giaguara

    johnsocal, tell me. do you either not watch TV at all, or do you donate your money and time to actually change what you see? ie charities etc?



    I do read/watch alot of news (cnn,bbc,foxnews,msnbc, and etc) but I also donate a portion of my income (about 6% in 2004) to Christian charities that focus mainly on helping the poorest of the poor.
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  • Reply 7 of 24
    I don't watch the news. The internet summaries are sufficient. Unless it is truly important in which case all channels will be carrying the news.



    News is a nothing but a pile of shit. It is all the bad happenings all around the world being shoved down your throat every single day. I don't like that. Being informed doesn't mean you have to suffer in front of the idiot box.
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  • Reply 8 of 24
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    If one has to do something everytime they see something terrible on the news, there would be no end in sight now would there?

    Oh, and why should depending on your government not count? When i vote for a government of decent and capable people who will look out for people in need domestically and abroad, i realise there will be a price to pay. It just might beat giving money to the people with the biggest marketing machine behind them, or with the most tv cameras around.

    What is truly sickening is that the moment the red cross announced they would be shifting excess funds from the Tsunami relief to other causes who don't get media exposure, the outcry was so big they had to come back on the decision and promise it would all go to Tsunami victims.
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  • Reply 9 of 24
    My point is unless you allow the knowledge you attain from the news to cause you to "act" and "help" then what is the purpose of watching/reading the news to begin with other then it being a source of entertainment?



    Some watch the news and don't take action and other don't watch the news so they won't have a reason to take action.



    Words and thoughts without action are meaningless.
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  • Reply 10 of 24
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    My point is unless you allow the knowledge you attain from the news to cause you to "act" and "help" then what is the purpose of watching/reading the news to begin with other then it being a source of entertainment?



    Some watch the news and don't take action and other don't watch the news so they won't have a reason to take action.



    Words and thoughts without action are meaningless.




    I expect that nobody or very few people watch news for entertainement. Most of them watch new for their own information and or education. Only a twisted mind could see news as an entertainement.



    Now the question of taking action is an other question. It's related to the way, you react with the world.

    I will also add, that only reacting to news is a bad thing. News are a magnificator lens, that focus on some issues for a limited amount of time, and then tend to vanish afterwhile.
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  • Reply 11 of 24
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Powerdoc

    I expect that nobody or very few people watch news for entertainement. Most of them watch new for their own information and or education. Only a twisted mind could see news as an entertainement.



    Now the question of taking action is an other question. It's related to the way, you react with the world.

    I will also add, that only reacting to news is a bad thing. News are a magnificator lens, that focus on some issues for a limited amount of time, and then tend to vanish afterwhile.






    I agree with for the most part but for the news and information to be considered "education" that knowledge would need to be put into action otherwise that knowledge is nothing more then mental jewelry used to impress others (or to make one feel important) and regardless if one wants to admit it or not if action is not taken news has been reduced "entertainment".



    In regards to another persons post:



    I watch, read and etc multiple sources of news and information because I never like to rely on a single source for news and etc.



    A main reason I don't depend on the government to be generous (or caring) for me persoanlly because the government (like all monopolies) is inefficient, slow to react, and non-innovative.
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  • Reply 12 of 24
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    I agree with for the most part but for the news and information to be considered "education" that knowledge would need to be put into action otherwise that knowledge is nothing more then mental jewelry used to impress others (or to make one feel important) and regardless if one wants to admit it or not if action is not taken news has been reduced "entertainment".







    It's a question of time.



    Perhaps something you witness some years ago, or the sum of news you witnesses may change your life and your actions in the future.



    Sometimes, it's a new event that make you react, but only because several events before prepared you to do so. I have an expression in french for this.

    " c'est la goutte d'eau qui fait deborder le vase"

    I will try to find a translation tomorrow. My wife is sleeping, and I don't want to wake up her.
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  • Reply 13 of 24
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    I do it to make you really, really mad.
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  • Reply 14 of 24
    spcmsspcms Posts: 407member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BuonRotto

    I do it to make you really, really mad.



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  • Reply 15 of 24
    I don't know how anyone could have an excuse considering that even Apple has it set up to make an online donation via itunes- http://www.apple.com/give/
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  • Reply 16 of 24
    Can I vote for not watching television news?
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  • Reply 17 of 24
    dmzdmz Posts: 5,775member
    We don't need the Roman Circus, we can do it with CGI. MOST of us would NEVER, EVER eat dinner then sit and watch your dinner partners 'getting it on' -- it is taken for granted to entertain ourselves with things we wouldn't be caught dead doing in real life. The entire medium is completely out of control.





    Kill Your Television.
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  • Reply 18 of 24
    giaguaragiaguara Posts: 2,724member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    My point is unless you allow the knowledge you attain from the news to cause you to "act" and "help" then what is the purpose of watching/reading the news to begin with other then it being a source of entertainment?



    Some watch the news and don't take action and other don't watch the news so they won't have a reason to take action.



    Words and thoughts without action are meaningless.




    Everybody except less than a handful of individuals that I know that do watch TV, don't really do anything about what they see in the news.



    If the tsunamis would have happened in the more beaten areas of the world, say in those parts of Africa where hunger has been a long time friend, or around Iraq .. would all those corporations and people handled out help as willingly?
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  • Reply 19 of 24
    trevormtrevorm Posts: 841member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnsocal

    I don't know how anyone could have an excuse considering that even Apple has it set up to make an online donation via itunes- http://www.apple.com/give/



    Just a shame the donation goes to the US Redcross. Funds have a habit of not going to the right people!
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