Yes I know I had an OSX server installed for about 6 months. The thing was I never used the GUI tools because I'm a remote terminal junky, never at home.
As I said, the tools are meant to be used from a remote location.
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Originally posted by Relic
If your GUI junkie and love Aqua then yes.
If you don?t use them then what?s the difference what BSD flavor you use?
Managing 100+ users with homedirs on servers and AFP sharing is a lot easier if you actually use Mac OS X Server to serve.
All other things can basically be done from Mac OS X client which comes with the Mac, so why switch to Linux/BSD/whatever?
Any OS with a decent Java implementation, ie, everything since the mid-90s.
Interesting, I didn't know that. I had a stolen version I was using as a web server. I really liked the tool sand monitors but never really used them as I always logged in via terminal. Pretty cool stuff though. Feeling guilty about using a stolen server OS I killed it. Coming back to the Mini though, I still believe it will be best served with a smaller leaner free Unix.
No, but that was not my point. SSH and Webmin works on that Mac OS X Server thingy too, you know.
I know, that was my point. Why use it if you can't take advatage of the GUI, because that's the only advantage. Why pay for something when I can get it for free.
I know, that was my point. Why use it if you can't take advatage of the GUI, because that's the only advantage. Why pay for something when I can get for free.
I think we're discussing on two different levels here. Mac OS X Server can do a lot of things either not easily done on other platforms or not possible at all - especially concerning managing and serving Mac OS X users.
I think we're discussing on two different levels here. Mac OS X Server can do a lot of things either not easily done on other platforms or not possible at all - especially concerning managing Mac OS X users.
Yeah, maybe your right. I don't want to OS X Server to manage other OSX users or machines. I want it to manage many differnet OS's and machines. When I administer the server I'm most liking not going to be using a Apple either. The GUI interfaces albeit very cool is of no use to me, I mean 60% percent of the time I'm using a friggen cell phone to connect.
My point from the beginning is, the Mini Mac is wonderfull small cheap machine that would make a great server appliance. It would be served better by an OS that's also equal in budget. I mean really what's the difference between OS X server and the free version of Darwin. I can do the same stuff for less.
My point from the beginning is, the Mini Mac is wonderfull small cheap machine that would make a great server appliance. It would be served better by an OS that's also equal in budget. I mean really what's the difference between OS X server and the free version of Darwin. I can do the same stuff for less.
Or just use the supplied (and pre-installed) Mac OS X client, and buying Mac OS X Server just to serve some webpages is more or less insane.
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Originally posted by Relic
Yes I know I had an OSX server installed for about 6 months. The thing was I never used the GUI tools because I'm a remote terminal junky, never at home.
As I said, the tools are meant to be used from a remote location.
Originally posted by Relic
If your GUI junkie and love Aqua then yes.
If you don?t use them then what?s the difference what BSD flavor you use?
Managing 100+ users with homedirs on servers and AFP sharing is a lot easier if you actually use Mac OS X Server to serve.
All other things can basically be done from Mac OS X client which comes with the Mac, so why switch to Linux/BSD/whatever?
Originally posted by JLL
As I said, the tools are meant to be used from a remote location.
Can I use them on any OS?
Originally posted by Relic
Can I use them on any OS?
Any OS with a decent Java implementation, ie, everything since the mid-90s.
Originally posted by Placebo
Any OS with a decent Java implementation, ie, everything since the mid-90s.
That's only the RAID Admin.
Originally posted by Relic
Can I use them on any OS?
No, but that was not my point. SSH and Webmin works on that Mac OS X Server thingy too, you know.
Originally posted by Placebo
Any OS with a decent Java implementation, ie, everything since the mid-90s.
Interesting, I didn't know that. I had a stolen version I was using as a web server. I really liked the tool sand monitors but never really used them as I always logged in via terminal. Pretty cool stuff though. Feeling guilty about using a stolen server OS I killed it. Coming back to the Mini though, I still believe it will be best served with a smaller leaner free Unix.
Originally posted by JLL
No, but that was not my point. SSH and Webmin works on that Mac OS X Server thingy too, you know.
I know, that was my point. Why use it if you can't take advatage of the GUI, because that's the only advantage. Why pay for something when I can get it for free.
Originally posted by Relic
I know, that was my point. Why use it if you can't take advatage of the GUI, because that's the only advantage. Why pay for something when I can get for free.
I think we're discussing on two different levels here. Mac OS X Server can do a lot of things either not easily done on other platforms or not possible at all - especially concerning managing and serving Mac OS X users.
Originally posted by JLL
I think we're discussing on two different levels here. Mac OS X Server can do a lot of things either not easily done on other platforms or not possible at all - especially concerning managing Mac OS X users.
Yeah, maybe your right. I don't want to OS X Server to manage other OSX users or machines. I want it to manage many differnet OS's and machines. When I administer the server I'm most liking not going to be using a Apple either. The GUI interfaces albeit very cool is of no use to me, I mean 60% percent of the time I'm using a friggen cell phone to connect.
My point from the beginning is, the Mini Mac is wonderfull small cheap machine that would make a great server appliance. It would be served better by an OS that's also equal in budget. I mean really what's the difference between OS X server and the free version of Darwin. I can do the same stuff for less.
Originally posted by Relic
My point from the beginning is, the Mini Mac is wonderfull small cheap machine that would make a great server appliance. It would be served better by an OS that's also equal in budget. I mean really what's the difference between OS X server and the free version of Darwin. I can do the same stuff for less.
Or just use the supplied (and pre-installed) Mac OS X client, and buying Mac OS X Server just to serve some webpages is more or less insane.
Originally posted by JLL
That's only the RAID Admin.
Ah, my bad.
Originally posted by Placebo
Ah, my bad.
Ttttssss, yeah dude whats up with that. You had me all excited and stuff, I was ready to spend a grand on the unlimited users.