I like Backup's simplicity and reliability, but it seems to me that when you delete files from folders that get backed up, that those files should also be deleted from the Backup. Otherwise old, obsolete files start building up in your backup and if you ever need to do a restore, there they are back on your hard drive again. I haven't been able to find a setting to remove files from the backup when you remove them from your hard drive...?
I like Backup's simplicity and reliability, but it seems to me that when you delete files from folders that get backed up, that those files should also be deleted from the Backup. Otherwise old, obsolete files start building up in your backup and if you ever need to do a restore, there they are back on your hard drive again. I haven't been able to find a setting to remove files from the backup when you remove them from your hard drive...?
This is the well proven and traditional method of taking a Base dump followed by one or more incremental dumps over say one week. You then repeat the cycle of taking a new Base followed by incrementals.
If you take a Base dump and then continue for ever taking Incremental dumps then yes, the backup datasets will grow and the total amount of data backed up will soon be many times the size of the Base dump.
If Backup 2 or 3 were to do as you suggest then one would lose the ability to recover a file today that you backed up several days ago and deleted from your computer yesterday that was followed by a Backup earlier today.
I hope you see the sense in this and the reason why your requirement isn't a mainstream thought by many others.
Everything in Backup can be turned off if you don't want it. I think it's the major reason to get a .mac account. The ability to store my college work, application settings and keychain offsite means I don't have to worry about house fires.....
This is not correct. If you choose the "Safari settings" QuickPick, it automatically selects the .cache files with no way of deselecting them.
But you could, if you wanted, create a custom set that includes the Safari files except the caches, yes?
I believe the point was that you can roll your own, not that the QuickPicks are infinitely editable.
Indeed it was, thank you.
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Originally posted by chromos
Yes, but I believe the original original point was that it makes no sense to backup the cache files.
Merrr. Uncheck them and go find the Safari folders you want to backup. It doesn't take too long and only needs to be done the once. Be grateful they include any QuickPicks at all.
Merrr. Uncheck them and go find the Safari folders you want to backup. It doesn't take too long and only needs to be done the once. Be grateful they include any QuickPicks at all.
That's a ridiculous argument. "It's a feature, not a bug." The original poster was remarking that he hoped this behavior would be corrected in v3.0. I was not complaining about QuickPicks in general; just the specific implementation of this one.
Doesn't matter how good Backup 3.0 is, it still can't justify the obscenely priced $99 .mac subscription and the (after 5 years) still very sub-par performance of the iDisk.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
Doesn't matter how good Backup 3.0 is, it still can't justify the obscenely priced $99 .mac subscription and the (after 5 years) still very sub-par performance of the iDisk.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
BAAAHHHHH!!! BAAAHHHH!!!!
Right Backup is a piece of trash. I brought .Mac thinking I was getting more than just an email addy. But in the end that all I got.
BACKUP will not backup to an iPOD.
iDisk fails from anything but a Mac and then it is marginal. Why anybody would put an Web Site there is beyond me.
No I got FolderSynchronizer and it backs up to an iPod GREAT.
.Mac it the beta site for future "free" software products from Apple as far as I can see.
Doesn't matter how good Backup 3.0 is, it still can't justify the obscenely priced $99 .mac subscription and the (after 5 years) still very sub-par performance of the iDisk.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
BAAAHHHHH!!! BAAAHHHH!!!!
Well, if you have multiple desktop Macs, syncing is a very welcome feature worth more than $8.25 a month for me.
Furthermore webpages with photos uploaded directly from iPhoto is a feature my family loves.
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Originally posted by Messiah
Just try backing up 37 DVDs (like I did recently) without one of the DVDs failing.
Ouch!
holy christ dude... with that much you spent on DVDs you coulda bought a frikken external HD
Originally posted by toxotes
I like Backup's simplicity and reliability, but it seems to me that when you delete files from folders that get backed up, that those files should also be deleted from the Backup. Otherwise old, obsolete files start building up in your backup and if you ever need to do a restore, there they are back on your hard drive again. I haven't been able to find a setting to remove files from the backup when you remove them from your hard drive...?
This is the well proven and traditional method of taking a Base dump followed by one or more incremental dumps over say one week. You then repeat the cycle of taking a new Base followed by incrementals.
If you take a Base dump and then continue for ever taking Incremental dumps then yes, the backup datasets will grow and the total amount of data backed up will soon be many times the size of the Base dump.
If Backup 2 or 3 were to do as you suggest then one would lose the ability to recover a file today that you backed up several days ago and deleted from your computer yesterday that was followed by a Backup earlier today.
I hope you see the sense in this and the reason why your requirement isn't a mainstream thought by many others.
Originally posted by danielctull
Everything in Backup can be turned off if you don't want it. I think it's the major reason to get a .mac account. The ability to store my college work, application settings and keychain offsite means I don't have to worry about house fires.....
This is not correct. If you choose the "Safari settings" QuickPick, it automatically selects the .cache files with no way of deselecting them.
I believe the point was that you can roll your own, not that the QuickPicks are infinitely editable.
Originally posted by Kickaha
But you could, if you wanted, create a custom set that includes the Safari files except the caches, yes?
I believe the point was that you can roll your own, not that the QuickPicks are infinitely editable.
Yes, but I believe the original original point was that it makes no sense to backup the cache files.
Originally posted by Kickaha
But you could, if you wanted, create a custom set that includes the Safari files except the caches, yes?
I believe the point was that you can roll your own, not that the QuickPicks are infinitely editable.
Indeed it was, thank you.
Originally posted by chromos
Yes, but I believe the original original point was that it makes no sense to backup the cache files.
Merrr. Uncheck them and go find the Safari folders you want to backup. It doesn't take too long and only needs to be done the once. Be grateful they include any QuickPicks at all.
Originally posted by danielctull
Merrr. Uncheck them and go find the Safari folders you want to backup. It doesn't take too long and only needs to be done the once. Be grateful they include any QuickPicks at all.
That's a ridiculous argument. "It's a feature, not a bug." The original poster was remarking that he hoped this behavior would be corrected in v3.0. I was not complaining about QuickPicks in general; just the specific implementation of this one.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
BAAAHHHHH!!! BAAAHHHH!!!!
Originally posted by DonkeyRinse
Doesn't matter how good Backup 3.0 is, it still can't justify the obscenely priced $99 .mac subscription and the (after 5 years) still very sub-par performance of the iDisk.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
BAAAHHHHH!!! BAAAHHHH!!!!
Right Backup is a piece of trash. I brought .Mac thinking I was getting more than just an email addy. But in the end that all I got.
BACKUP will not backup to an iPOD.
iDisk fails from anything but a Mac and then it is marginal. Why anybody would put an Web Site there is beyond me.
No I got FolderSynchronizer and it backs up to an iPod GREAT.
.Mac it the beta site for future "free" software products from Apple as far as I can see.
Originally posted by DonkeyRinse
Doesn't matter how good Backup 3.0 is, it still can't justify the obscenely priced $99 .mac subscription and the (after 5 years) still very sub-par performance of the iDisk.
.Mac is targeted at the same people that pay full price for Apple's RAM: Mac sheep.
BAAAHHHHH!!! BAAAHHHH!!!!
Well, if you have multiple desktop Macs, syncing is a very welcome feature worth more than $8.25 a month for me.
Furthermore webpages with photos uploaded directly from iPhoto is a feature my family loves.
Originally posted by JLL
Well, if you have multiple desktop Macs, syncing is a very welcome feature worth more than $8.25 a month for me.
Furthermore webpages with photos uploaded directly from iPhoto is a feature my family loves.
I agree, .Mac works great for me generally and syncing is the killer feature. Add in more storage and I'd be all the more happier.
How about an iTunes plus club with .Mac benefits. Frequent Apple (iTunes, Apple Store, Apple Care, etc.) buyers deserve a few more .Mac perks.