Last year's WWDC was advertised on the introduction of Tiger and the year before we knew something big was coming because they pushed the original date back almost a month and relocated it to accomodate more participants.
What can we expect this year and what does the focus on Tiger's technologies tell us about the release date of Tiger?
I think Tiger won't be released early but at or shortly after WWDC to meet the promised "2nd half of 2005" deadline.
On the hardware side, I expect the announcements to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary: i.e. PCI-e, DDR2 etc.
I hope that the guys at IBM did not solely work on resolving the problem in the production process (which is mainly for GHz-bragging, anyway) but kept up work on the functionality (multi-threading, Power5 derivative, true moblie chip etc.) according to their roadmap. Maybe, multicore chips will be pre-announced/pre-viewed.
Since it is a developers conference, I hope Apple talks about the direction future products of the company are heading. Will Apple actively persue the business market (the Mac mini seems like a good start here, but they don't seem to be focused enough yet)? Or will they shift thier focus on personal entertainment (but then, they would have seriously think about adding TV capabilities)?
Interesting times ahead!
Mods: Time to reopen the "Temporary Insanity" forum ;-)
Enterprise Object Frameworks, part of NeXTStep originally, now bundled with WebObjects.
Basically, Core Data does the same thing for data (files, metadata, etc.) that Core Image does for filters: It gives you a system-level framework for defining and manipulating them.
The details are seeeeeekrit.
Hopefully Core Data will add better management of XML data sources and DOM manipulation. This is one area Cocoa is pretty weak at.
I'd also like to see xcode get better at intellisense like visual studio.
Look, I'm usually open to the "Hey what about Poland (or fill in your country)" complaints about Apple's endeavors. But to suggest that Apple should hold its developer conference in Europe is downright funny to me. Did you ever stop to wonder that maybe the location is determined by the fact that it is right next door to Apple corporate HQ? Do you have any idea how much it would cost Apple just do the show anywhere else in the USA? All of their employees can drive to the freakin' convention hall. This has nothing to do with American elitism, and everything to do with the bottom line.
Look, I'm usually open to the "Hey what about Poland (or fill in your country)" complaints about Apple's endeavors. But to suggest that Apple should hold its developer conference in Europe is downright funny to me. Did you ever stop to wonder that maybe the location is determined by the fact that it is right next door to Apple corporate HQ? Do you have any idea how much it would cost Apple just do the show anywhere else in the USA? All of their employees can drive to the freakin' convention hall. This has nothing to do with American elitism, and everything to do with the bottom line.
Very true, and one of the multiple reasons why it's held in the US. The majority of Mac users, and developers are also located in the US. It has to do with everybody's bottom line including Apples, and their employees as you previously mentioned.
Actually, it was an add-on to Openstep 4.x and originally written by Dave Koski and I'm completely blanking on the other gentleman. Both were interns at NeXT and former Stanford students who later owned and operated Running-Start Inc.
EOF gives many advanced ideas to the developer to manipulate data in RDBMS.
CoreData is using an SQLite database basically interfacing with EOF which will be once again Objective-C and since Apple stopped shipping ObjC version of WOF this will be very nice.
No, EOF predated OPENSTEP -- it was available for NEXTSTEP 3. EOF in turn derived from DBKit. And the development team was certainly larger than Dave Koski and Ralph Zazula...
Core Data does not "use a SQLite database" and it does not "basically interface with EOF". Publicly available information about what Core Data really is is available here.
I agree there's a lot of nonsense being talked about Core Data *but* it does (optionally) use an SQLite database backend (as your own link to Apple's site mentions.
I agree there's a lot of nonsense being talked about Core Data *but* it does (optionally) use an SQLite database backend (as your own link to Apple's site mentions.
The key word there is "optionally" -- SQLite is one of three types of data store supported by Core Data, not as the original implies the only type.
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What can we expect this year and what does the focus on Tiger's technologies tell us about the release date of Tiger?
I think Tiger won't be released early but at or shortly after WWDC to meet the promised "2nd half of 2005" deadline.
On the hardware side, I expect the announcements to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary: i.e. PCI-e, DDR2 etc.
I hope that the guys at IBM did not solely work on resolving the problem in the production process (which is mainly for GHz-bragging, anyway) but kept up work on the functionality (multi-threading, Power5 derivative, true moblie chip etc.) according to their roadmap. Maybe, multicore chips will be pre-announced/pre-viewed.
Since it is a developers conference, I hope Apple talks about the direction future products of the company are heading. Will Apple actively persue the business market (the Mac mini seems like a good start here, but they don't seem to be focused enough yet)? Or will they shift thier focus on personal entertainment (but then, they would have seriously think about adding TV capabilities)?
Interesting times ahead!
Mods: Time to reopen the "Temporary Insanity" forum ;-)
Originally posted by RolandG
[B]
I think Tiger won't be released early but at or shortly after WWDC to meet the promised "2nd half of 2005" deadline.
On the hardware side, I expect the announcements to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary: i.e. PCI-e, DDR2 etc.
But Apple have consistently said Tiger will arrive in the "First Half of 2005"
Originally posted by xflare
But Apple have consistently said Tiger will arrive in the "First Half of 2005"
"Apple have"
You wouldn't happen to be Brit now would you
I think if Apple ships Tiger before the end of June that would meet the deadline right. July 1st is really the 2H of 2005 right?
I definitely think WWDC 2005 is Tigers release party. Why else would Apple move the date forward to an earlier time?
Originally posted by Denmaru
Yet again, a WWDC I can´t even hope to attend. Somehow, I think there´s something wrong with the WWDC, for example
*) It´s only in America - what are european Developers going to do? Especially with such a
Since when does "Worldwide" not include Europe?
Originally posted by Amorph
Enterprise Object Frameworks, part of NeXTStep originally, now bundled with WebObjects.
Basically, Core Data does the same thing for data (files, metadata, etc.) that Core Image does for filters: It gives you a system-level framework for defining and manipulating them.
The details are seeeeeekrit.
Hopefully Core Data will add better management of XML data sources and DOM manipulation. This is one area Cocoa is pretty weak at.
I'd also like to see xcode get better at intellisense like visual studio.
Originally posted by hmurchison
"Apple have"
You wouldn't happen to be Brit now would you
I think if Apple ships Tiger before the end of June that would meet the deadline right. July 1st is really the 2H of 2005 right?
I definitely think WWDC 2005 is Tigers release party. Why else would Apple move the date forward to an earlier time?
See my thread here, on Tiger's release date, I am off to put money on 25th June.
Originally posted by blue2kdave
Look, I'm usually open to the "Hey what about Poland (or fill in your country)" complaints about Apple's endeavors. But to suggest that Apple should hold its developer conference in Europe is downright funny to me. Did you ever stop to wonder that maybe the location is determined by the fact that it is right next door to Apple corporate HQ? Do you have any idea how much it would cost Apple just do the show anywhere else in the USA? All of their employees can drive to the freakin' convention hall. This has nothing to do with American elitism, and everything to do with the bottom line.
Very true, and one of the multiple reasons why it's held in the US. The majority of Mac users, and developers are also located in the US. It has to do with everybody's bottom line including Apples, and their employees as you previously mentioned.
Originally posted by Rhumgod
[B]Think BeOS and the BFS and you have pretty much the summation of Core Data. If that eludes you, read the wiki here.
This has nothing at all to do with Core Data.
Core Data is described here.
Originally posted by mdriftmeyer
Actually, it was an add-on to Openstep 4.x and originally written by Dave Koski and I'm completely blanking on the other gentleman. Both were interns at NeXT and former Stanford students who later owned and operated Running-Start Inc.
EOF gives many advanced ideas to the developer to manipulate data in RDBMS.
CoreData is using an SQLite database basically interfacing with EOF which will be once again Objective-C and since Apple stopped shipping ObjC version of WOF this will be very nice.
No, EOF predated OPENSTEP -- it was available for NEXTSTEP 3. EOF in turn derived from DBKit. And the development team was certainly larger than Dave Koski and Ralph Zazula...
Core Data does not "use a SQLite database" and it does not "basically interface with EOF". Publicly available information about what Core Data really is is available here.
Originally posted by quiet_man
Core Data does not "use a SQLite database"
I agree there's a lot of nonsense being talked about Core Data *but* it does (optionally) use an SQLite database backend (as your own link to Apple's site mentions.
Originally posted by stupider...likeafox
I agree there's a lot of nonsense being talked about Core Data *but* it does (optionally) use an SQLite database backend (as your own link to Apple's site mentions.
The key word there is "optionally" -- SQLite is one of three types of data store supported by Core Data, not as the original implies the only type.
I'm still confounded by the lack of "supported" configurations...I know, I know, technically many "unsupported" configs work, but this is nuts...
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