People will always be clamouring for more performance.
When the computer finally basic tasks (not a single calculation) faster than 10 milliseconds then we will clamour less cos we won't know if its slow or not (a blink takes about 50 milliseconds).
If you clicked on a document and it opened and displayed the contents in such a fast time then you couldn't react to it anyway.
I really think the 64-bit is a red herring. I don't think the Apple marketing for the "64-bit PowerPC G5" is forcing Apple into a corner either. The name of the game is performance and how much it costs. It just so happens that 1.6 to 2+ GHz G5 chips have been available for a long time now and the only thing holding Apple back from using it appears to be the 1 inch thick form factor. Apple just needs to stay close to the PC cost and performance and they'll be fine. For instance, if Apple ships a 2 GHz G4 Powerbook, instead of G5, in 4 months, and priced accordingly, they'll be fine.
That AMD has a K8 mobile-specific platform, "64-bit!", and has shipped/announced before Apple shipped something is irrelavent. The machines will still be tested for performance. Nothing in the Turion platform is a deal-breaker for anybody, unless of course it has more performance than others, but that's probably not the case.
If there is a deal-breaker with 64 bit, it's a very very small market. Not that many applications out there require native 64 bit integer math. Virtually every single 32 bit processor today has native 64 bit FPU, for a long time now. I think it would be nice to see a 4 SO-DIMM slot machine for 4 GB RAM though. The 64 bit really doesn't mean anything short of that. When 2048 Mbit DRAMs or larger (if it exists?) ships, then we can start taking the 64 bit-ness seriously.
If you argue that, then DEC Alpha also beat Apple to a 64-bit Desktop.
And it was released in 1992, more than a decade before all the microsoft/intel and apple coverage on how great 64bit is, buy our machines.
And VMS was/is very robust!
And you had clustering in the 80's!
And the Alpha was/still is one of the best chip designs.
Did I mention I used to work for DEC?
DEC was very similar to Apple. Brilliant machines but no marketing. Ken Olsen (DEC founder) said that we don't need market DEC as the product is so good it will sell itself. He also said the infamous word "There is no reason to for anyone to have a computer in their home".
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When the computer finally basic tasks (not a single calculation) faster than 10 milliseconds then we will clamour less cos we won't know if its slow or not (a blink takes about 50 milliseconds).
If you clicked on a document and it opened and displayed the contents in such a fast time then you couldn't react to it anyway.
Imagine how much more productive people would be!
Dobby.
That AMD has a K8 mobile-specific platform, "64-bit!", and has shipped/announced before Apple shipped something is irrelavent. The machines will still be tested for performance. Nothing in the Turion platform is a deal-breaker for anybody, unless of course it has more performance than others, but that's probably not the case.
If there is a deal-breaker with 64 bit, it's a very very small market. Not that many applications out there require native 64 bit integer math. Virtually every single 32 bit processor today has native 64 bit FPU, for a long time now. I think it would be nice to see a 4 SO-DIMM slot machine for 4 GB RAM though. The 64 bit really doesn't mean anything short of that. When 2048 Mbit DRAMs or larger (if it exists?) ships, then we can start taking the 64 bit-ness seriously.
Originally posted by xmoger
64 bit systems can address 16 exabytes. Few laptops can handle 4 gigs of ram, but now these can handle > 4 gig page files.
I think Sparc beat AMD on a 64bit laptop anyway.
If you argue that, then DEC Alpha also beat Apple to a 64-bit Desktop.
Originally posted by xmoger
64 bit systems can address 16 exabytes. Few laptops can handle 4 gigs of ram, but now these can handle > 4 gig page files.
I think Sparc beat AMD on a 64bit laptop anyway.
Here's a couple of companies who make Sparc laptops. Their not very nice looking but hey it's 64 bit were looking for here
http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/
http://www.naturetech.com.tw
Originally posted by Chucker
If you argue that, then DEC Alpha also beat Apple to a 64-bit Desktop.
And it was released in 1992, more than a decade before all the microsoft/intel and apple coverage on how great 64bit is, buy our machines.
And VMS was/is very robust!
And you had clustering in the 80's!
And the Alpha was/still is one of the best chip designs.
Did I mention I used to work for DEC?
DEC was very similar to Apple. Brilliant machines but no marketing. Ken Olsen (DEC founder) said that we don't need market DEC as the product is so good it will sell itself. He also said the infamous word "There is no reason to for anyone to have a computer in their home".
Sorry about the rambling.
Dobby.
Originally posted by Relic
Here's a couple of companies who make Sparc laptops. Their not very nice looking but hey it's 64 bit were looking for here
http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/
http://www.naturetech.com.tw
Three words on the last one: ATi Radeon 7000. HAHAHAHAHAHA