Keep in mind that Apple mentions him a lot, as he puts a good word in for Apple in the articles he writes, and could possibly be a little better informed than the rest of us.
<strong>If the iMac were to get a 1 GHz G3, then Powermacs would probably run at 1 GHz on the low end models.
I don't buy it. Sahara isn't ready, and the Powermacs won't clock a MHz beyond 1 GHz. This is Apple we're talking about here. Everything is incremental and mediocre with them.
For example, the Titanium: it took Apple a year to update it's motherboard beyond the 100 MHz system bus that the Pismo had.
It took Apple a year to update the iBook's miserable 66 MHz bus. 66 MHz?!?!??!? What is this, 1994?
Apple will not suddently double the speed of every computer in their lineup. Think modest, think profit margins, think 100 MHz speedbumps. Think lame.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Someone remind me never to read a post or thread by JYD again.
It has long been rumored that a major revision to Apple?s iMac consumer desktop line would not only give the internals of the machine a major bump, but also mark a major shift in the form-factor. As the current iMac line, while not particularly pokey in any respect, lacks the high-MHz processor and large screen necessary to compete in a marketplace dominated by ?Wintel? machines, Apple is working on a revision to the line whose introduction is sure to be seen as just as large a revolution as that of the original.
The form factor of the current machine has been essentially unchanged since the introduction of the original Bondi Blue iMac in 1998. Over the last 3 years there has been only one case revision, barring color changes, and it was a modest update at that- it came with the introduction of the ?Kehei? or ?slot loading? iMac line in October 1999. The updated design sported a smoother shell without the metal RF plating that was visible under the previous model?s polycarbonate skin, and this exact form factor still exists today. Indeed, the iMac is the only machine in Apple?s lineup that is clearly a holdover from the early days of Jonathan Ive?s tenure as chief of Industrial Design at Apple. While most other Apple products are sleek and minimal, packing the maximum amount of functionality into the smallest space, the iMac remains colorful and perhaps somewhat bloated-- not at all in line with the currently fashionable minimalist design ethos introduced in the PowerBook G4.
It?s no surprise that a major change to the iMac is coming. What has been difficult to nail down is exactly what will be changed, and when these changes will occur. What has precluded this product from being introduced is component availability and prices: AppleInsider sources have revealed, however, that the prices of key components has reached an acceptable level at which Apple can sell the new iMac at a price palatable to consumers and still retain profitability on its most popular line.
AppleInsider has learned that the new-generation iMac will be introduced in the first months of 2002, either at MacWorld Expo San Francisco in January, MacWorld Tokyo in March, or at an ?Apple Special Event? akin to the launches of the iBook (Dual USB) and iPod. Its external design will be nothing short of spectacular. The new iMac will continue the convenience of the All in One design that the current model holds, but in a significantly sexier manner. Based around a 15? TFT Flat-Panel display, running at a native resolution of 1024x768, the new iMac will closely resemble the current 15? Apple Studio Display from many angles. However, the enclosure will be thicker (so as to accommodate the extra bulk of computer internals), and constructed with more robust, scratchproof materials similar in texture and finish to the iBook.
The changes in technical specifications in the new iMac will be as innovative as the changes to the case design. At the center of the new iMac will be IBM?s 750FX ?Sahara? G3, running at speeds approaching 1Ghz. The Sahara chip is designed for low-power, low heat operation, thereby allowing the new iMac to continue the ?fan-less tradition? of nearly silent operation that has become a hallmark of the line. Other features include a faster front side bus, and an nVidia GeForce2 MX graphics accelerator with 32 MB of VRAM. All models will ship with at least 128 MB of RAM, as these machines will be pre-installed with Mac OS X as their default operating system.
Similar to the current iBook, levels of iMac trim will not be distinguished by processor speed, but by choice of DVD or DVD/CD-RW Combo drives. There is also a possibility of the DVD-R/CD-RW SuperDrive becoming available as a BTO option on this new iMac, therefore bringing DVD movie creation to the masses?a long held vision of Apple CEO Steve Jobs. Pricing, while evidently not set in stone, will begin at $999 for the low-end, DVD-equipped model, and around $1299 for the high-end, Combo drive model. If a SuperDrive option is available, it will add between 300 and 500 dollars to the price of the Combo drive model, probably bringing the grand total of the loaded model to $1599. Whether or not a SuperDrive is available on the new iMac is probably dependent upon the availability of a slot-loading model. <hr></blockquote>
Read Haddad's again. Note the bold.
Read his specs.
Read AI's specs.
Read his description of the casing.
Read AI's.
Seems like we have a famous reader! Hi, Charles! Next time, don't steal our articles, mmmkay?
you really should mention this to his editors. im sure they would like to know their reporter could get them into trouble in the future regarding copyright infringement (i know AI wount pursue it...but in the future others may not be so kind)
you really should mention this to his editors. im sure they would like to know their reporter could get them into trouble in the future regarding copyright infringement (i know AI wount pursue it...but in the future others may not be so kind) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Charles Haddad is a generally well-respected figure.
That being said, we're going after him. Or MacNN is.
Oh, come on. Who here (who are old enough) can remember strolling up to the library World Book encyclopedias in elementary school, changing one or two words, and ta da! A world-class report on Venezuala! The teacher will never be the wiser!
Uh.. not me of course. And yes, I design the airbag sensor in your car.
This should be all the evidence you need as to the accuracy of Mr. Haddad's prognostications, as well as his involvement in the Macintosh platform, and computing in general.</strong><hr></blockquote>
(re: the GeForce 2)
heh -- I actually think his prediction about a GeForce 2 being the video card in those new iMacs is spot-on. Time will tell...
heya Moki... welcome to AI... was wondering when you would come over from MacNN ;-)
Anyway, GeForce 2 MX is ok for NOW TODAY... in 3 months it will be old trash.
It would be nice if we could at least have a GeForce2 DDR chipset of somekind.
The best thing, at all, would be to have a damn free AGP slot damn you Apple! If those guys that made a computer in a keyboard can have a pci slot and an AGP slot... by god Apple can add at LEAST a free AGP slot. grrrr...
Hey moki... when is Escape Velocity Nova coming out? ;-)
[quote]The best thing, at all, would be to have a damn free AGP slot damn you Apple! If those guys that made a computer in a keyboard can have a pci slot and an AGP slot... by god Apple can add at LEAST a free AGP slot. grrrr...
<hr></blockquote>
remember, the iMac is supposed to be fanless. impossible with a GeForce 3or4, don't you think?
Comments
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Macintosh ]</p>
I don't know what to believe my head hurts
I really want an imac with a geforce card in there thas all i ask it canbe which ever as long as its geforce!
[ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: O and A ]</p>
<strong>If the iMac were to get a 1 GHz G3, then Powermacs would probably run at 1 GHz on the low end models.
I don't buy it. Sahara isn't ready, and the Powermacs won't clock a MHz beyond 1 GHz. This is Apple we're talking about here. Everything is incremental and mediocre with them.
For example, the Titanium: it took Apple a year to update it's motherboard beyond the 100 MHz system bus that the Pismo had.
It took Apple a year to update the iBook's miserable 66 MHz bus. 66 MHz?!?!??!? What is this, 1994?
Apple will not suddently double the speed of every computer in their lineup. Think modest, think profit margins, think 100 MHz speedbumps. Think lame.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Someone remind me never to read a post or thread by JYD again.
[quote]
It has long been rumored that a major revision to Apple?s iMac consumer desktop line would not only give the internals of the machine a major bump, but also mark a major shift in the form-factor. As the current iMac line, while not particularly pokey in any respect, lacks the high-MHz processor and large screen necessary to compete in a marketplace dominated by ?Wintel? machines, Apple is working on a revision to the line whose introduction is sure to be seen as just as large a revolution as that of the original.
The form factor of the current machine has been essentially unchanged since the introduction of the original Bondi Blue iMac in 1998. Over the last 3 years there has been only one case revision, barring color changes, and it was a modest update at that- it came with the introduction of the ?Kehei? or ?slot loading? iMac line in October 1999. The updated design sported a smoother shell without the metal RF plating that was visible under the previous model?s polycarbonate skin, and this exact form factor still exists today. Indeed, the iMac is the only machine in Apple?s lineup that is clearly a holdover from the early days of Jonathan Ive?s tenure as chief of Industrial Design at Apple. While most other Apple products are sleek and minimal, packing the maximum amount of functionality into the smallest space, the iMac remains colorful and perhaps somewhat bloated-- not at all in line with the currently fashionable minimalist design ethos introduced in the PowerBook G4.
It?s no surprise that a major change to the iMac is coming. What has been difficult to nail down is exactly what will be changed, and when these changes will occur. What has precluded this product from being introduced is component availability and prices: AppleInsider sources have revealed, however, that the prices of key components has reached an acceptable level at which Apple can sell the new iMac at a price palatable to consumers and still retain profitability on its most popular line.
AppleInsider has learned that the new-generation iMac will be introduced in the first months of 2002, either at MacWorld Expo San Francisco in January, MacWorld Tokyo in March, or at an ?Apple Special Event? akin to the launches of the iBook (Dual USB) and iPod. Its external design will be nothing short of spectacular. The new iMac will continue the convenience of the All in One design that the current model holds, but in a significantly sexier manner. Based around a 15? TFT Flat-Panel display, running at a native resolution of 1024x768, the new iMac will closely resemble the current 15? Apple Studio Display from many angles. However, the enclosure will be thicker (so as to accommodate the extra bulk of computer internals), and constructed with more robust, scratchproof materials similar in texture and finish to the iBook.
The changes in technical specifications in the new iMac will be as innovative as the changes to the case design. At the center of the new iMac will be IBM?s 750FX ?Sahara? G3, running at speeds approaching 1Ghz. The Sahara chip is designed for low-power, low heat operation, thereby allowing the new iMac to continue the ?fan-less tradition? of nearly silent operation that has become a hallmark of the line. Other features include a faster front side bus, and an nVidia GeForce2 MX graphics accelerator with 32 MB of VRAM. All models will ship with at least 128 MB of RAM, as these machines will be pre-installed with Mac OS X as their default operating system.
Similar to the current iBook, levels of iMac trim will not be distinguished by processor speed, but by choice of DVD or DVD/CD-RW Combo drives. There is also a possibility of the DVD-R/CD-RW SuperDrive becoming available as a BTO option on this new iMac, therefore bringing DVD movie creation to the masses?a long held vision of Apple CEO Steve Jobs. Pricing, while evidently not set in stone, will begin at $999 for the low-end, DVD-equipped model, and around $1299 for the high-end, Combo drive model. If a SuperDrive option is available, it will add between 300 and 500 dollars to the price of the Combo drive model, probably bringing the grand total of the loaded model to $1599. Whether or not a SuperDrive is available on the new iMac is probably dependent upon the availability of a slot-loading model. <hr></blockquote>
Read Haddad's again. Note the bold.
Read his specs.
Read AI's specs.
Read his description of the casing.
Read AI's.
Seems like we have a famous reader! Hi, Charles! Next time, don't steal our articles, mmmkay?
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<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
CCT--err, SdC
<strong><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2002/nf2002013_4857.htm" target="_blank">In this business week article</a>
Seems to be accurate enough.</strong><hr></blockquote>
curious : what they say is nearly my prediction, at the exception of the speed , i rather see 800 mhz.
Anyway all my precedent predictions where false, so this is quite a bad new for this article.
<strong>guys, this is AI's article.
[snip]
Read Haddad's again. Note the bold.
Read his specs.
Read AI's specs.
Read his description of the casing.
Read AI's.
Seems like we have a famous reader! Hi, Charles! Next time, don't steal our articles, mmmkay?
</vent>
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
you really should mention this to his editors. im sure they would like to know their reporter could get them into trouble in the future regarding copyright infringement (i know AI wount pursue it...but in the future others may not be so kind)
<strong>
you really should mention this to his editors. im sure they would like to know their reporter could get them into trouble in the future regarding copyright infringement (i know AI wount pursue it...but in the future others may not be so kind) </strong><hr></blockquote>
Charles Haddad is a generally well-respected figure.
That being said, we're going after him. Or MacNN is.
<strong>guys, this is AI's article.
Read Haddad's again. Note the bold.
Read his specs.
Read AI's specs.
Read his description of the casing.
Read AI's.
Seems like we have a famous reader! Hi, Charles! Next time, don't steal our articles, mmmkay?
</vent>
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh, come on. Who here (who are old enough) can remember strolling up to the library World Book encyclopedias in elementary school, changing one or two words, and ta da! A world-class report on Venezuala! The teacher will never be the wiser!
Uh.. not me of course. And yes, I design the airbag sensor in your car.
<strong>
This should be all the evidence you need as to the accuracy of Mr. Haddad's prognostications, as well as his involvement in the Macintosh platform, and computing in general.</strong><hr></blockquote>
(re: the GeForce 2)
heh -- I actually think his prediction about a GeForce 2 being the video card in those new iMacs is spot-on. Time will tell...
His case description on the other hand...
[ 01-04-2002: Message edited by: moki ]</p>
Anyway, GeForce 2 MX is ok for NOW TODAY... in 3 months it will be old trash.
It would be nice if we could at least have a GeForce2 DDR chipset of somekind.
The best thing, at all, would be to have a damn free AGP slot damn you Apple! If those guys that made a computer in a keyboard can have a pci slot and an AGP slot... by god Apple can add at LEAST a free AGP slot. grrrr...
Hey moki... when is Escape Velocity Nova coming out? ;-)
<strong>Hey moki... when is Escape Velocity Nova coming out? ;-)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Before the G5 PowerMacs.
Remember guys, the 20th Anneversary Mac had 2 PCI slots in it's hunchback, so Apple could really add them if they were so inclined.
<hr></blockquote>
remember, the iMac is supposed to be fanless. impossible with a GeForce 3or4, don't you think?