Does the person(s) running the Jabber server then get access to your plaintext passwords? Since I use my Passport account for other things, I am a little leery about giving my password to people in a foreign land...
Access? Yes. They have to send the password to the chat system to log you in through their server. If you stick to the bigger, well-known servers, there shouldn't be much problem. Plus, I know there are Canadian Jabber servers, so if it's nationality that's a concern, you can keep it local.
As an aside: this is why I hate Passport. You can't risk using your IM password, because it's tied to all your other ones. \
Access? Yes. They have to send the password to the chat system to log you in through their server. If you stick to the bigger, well-known servers, there shouldn't be much problem. Plus, I know there are Canadian Jabber servers, so if it's nationality that's a concern, you can keep it local.
I think I'll stick with Messenger... I don't need the additional risk of somebody else knowing an important password of mine.
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As an aside: this is why I hate Passport. You can't risk using your IM password, because it's tied to all your other ones. \
I like it because I don't need separate accounts for Expedia, MSDN, Hotmail, and MSN.
See, that's the thing... I'd rather have separate accounts, so that if one password is compromised the rest aren't.
Of course, you could always create identical accounts with identical passwords on all of them, and still be more secure because you're not using Passport.
But, I digress. If you're that worried about your accounts, yes, you should stick with MSN Messenger. Or set up your own Jabber server.
iChat is useless to me because nobody I know uses AIM or .mac. I've never met anyone who didn't use MSN. Maybe it's just my part of the world that's like that.
So I get to use Adium which, other than video chat, seems to be better anyway.
Exactly. I use Fire and Trillian (on my WinXP box at work) precisely for the multi-protocol support.
It would be nice if apple made iChatAV a true H.323 client. That way you connect to Polycom and Tandberg Videoconferencing gear. Both of these videoconferencing manufactures support h.263 and h.264 so apple has this part right... I just don't understand why they wouldn't add a "Connect To..." menu that lets you type in the IP address of another VC codec.
Also H.239 support would be nice as well. For those that don't know.... H.239 is the standard that videoconferencing manufactures are using that allows you to send a PC signal (or your desktop) and your video simultaneously to the far end.
Also, true SIP integration would be nice at some point. Since this is the way the VC industry is heading.
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Originally posted by mikef
Does the person(s) running the Jabber server then get access to your plaintext passwords? Since I use my Passport account for other things, I am a little leery about giving my password to people in a foreign land...
Access? Yes. They have to send the password to the chat system to log you in through their server. If you stick to the bigger, well-known servers, there shouldn't be much problem. Plus, I know there are Canadian Jabber servers, so if it's nationality that's a concern, you can keep it local.
As an aside: this is why I hate Passport. You can't risk using your IM password, because it's tied to all your other ones.
Originally posted by Kesh
Access? Yes. They have to send the password to the chat system to log you in through their server. If you stick to the bigger, well-known servers, there shouldn't be much problem. Plus, I know there are Canadian Jabber servers, so if it's nationality that's a concern, you can keep it local.
I think I'll stick with Messenger... I don't need the additional risk of somebody else knowing an important password of mine.
As an aside: this is why I hate Passport. You can't risk using your IM password, because it's tied to all your other ones.
I like it because I don't need separate accounts for Expedia, MSDN, Hotmail, and MSN.
Of course, you could always create identical accounts with identical passwords on all of them, and still be more secure because you're not using Passport.
But, I digress. If you're that worried about your accounts, yes, you should stick with MSN Messenger. Or set up your own Jabber server.
Originally posted by Kesh
But, I digress. If you're that worried about your accounts, yes, you should stick with MSN Messenger. Or set up your own Jabber server.
Or use AdiumX. MSN Messenger has nearly NO features.
Originally posted by jabohn
iChat is useless to me because nobody I know uses AIM or .mac. I've never met anyone who didn't use MSN. Maybe it's just my part of the world that's like that.
So I get to use Adium which, other than video chat, seems to be better anyway.
Exactly. I use Fire and Trillian (on my WinXP box at work) precisely for the multi-protocol support.
Also H.239 support would be nice as well. For those that don't know.... H.239 is the standard that videoconferencing manufactures are using that allows you to send a PC signal (or your desktop) and your video simultaneously to the far end.
Also, true SIP integration would be nice at some point. Since this is the way the VC industry is heading.