Alternative Terminal Apps

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
I'm getting sick of Terminal.app.



Are there any good alternatives? Among my pet peeves:



1) Double-clicking text doesn't highlight the whole file.

2) Highlighting text doesn't add it to the clipboard.

3) etc....

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 8
    karl kuehnkarl kuehn Posts: 756member
    1) it is simply following the standard MacOS X behavior. If you want a whole path try double clicking on the last "word" in the path, then shift clicking on the first character you want. There is value in the consistency, and I find the way it selects text on a double click to usually be what I want (whereas windows is always a fight to get rid of things I don't want... and I never know what I am going to get on other *nix systems).



    2) see #1... this is not X-11. I only what things in the clipboard when I put them there. I do a lot of text manipulation and it is sometimes nice to cut some text, highlight other text to do a drag on it, and then paste back in the old text. This is a behavior thing...



    3)... there is no third step?
  • Reply 2 of 8
    xoolxool Posts: 2,460member
    I agree... I want OS X text and mouse behaviours in Terminal.



    When FireFox didn't handle text entry the same as other Mac apps I was aggravated and I'd be even more so if Terminal copied everything anytime I selected some text.



    If you really want these behaviors though, why not just get some X-Windows based terminal? Or maybe you should write your own?
  • Reply 3 of 8
    dobbydobby Posts: 794member
    Try http://www.pollet.net/GLterm/

    I think you can also use tn3720 as well.



    Terminal is quite okay. Not quite putty but a hell of a lot better than MS terminal.



    BTW, All terminal app developers, I hate when I highlight something and it goes to clipboard. This is what apple c + v and ctrl c + v are for.



    Dobby.
  • Reply 4 of 8
    javacowboyjavacowboy Posts: 802member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dobby

    Try http://www.pollet.net/GLterm/

    I think you can also use tn3720 as well.



    Terminal is quite okay. Not quite putty but a hell of a lot better than MS terminal.



    BTW, All terminal app developers, I hate when I highlight something and it goes to clipboard. This is what apple c + v and ctrl c + v are for.



    Dobby.




    I develop on a Linux server every day at work. I'm used to double clicking and hightlighting the entire file or directory . When I log in at home and don't get the same behaviour, it's frustrating.



    Apple should give me the ability to choose the behaviour I want.
  • Reply 5 of 8
    javacowboyjavacowboy Posts: 802member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Karl Kuehn

    1) it is simply following the standard MacOS X behavior. If you want a whole path try double clicking on the last "word" in the path, then shift clicking on the first character you want. There is value in the consistency, and I find the way it selects text on a double click to usually be what I want (whereas windows is always a fight to get rid of things I don't want... and I never know what I am going to get on other *nix systems).



    2) see #1... this is not X-11. I only what things in the clipboard when I put them there. I do a lot of text manipulation and it is sometimes nice to cut some text, highlight other text to do a drag on it, and then paste back in the old text. This is a behavior thing...



    3)... there is no third step?




    So within your wonderful OS X copy-paste behaviour, is it possible for me to move from one word to the next?



    In a normal x-term, I'd do alt-F (next word) or alt-B (previous word). No, Option-Left and Option-Right don't work in Terminal.
  • Reply 6 of 8
    keshkesh Posts: 621member
    Perhaps the easiest thing might be to download and compile an X11 terminal application that behaves in the way you want.
  • Reply 7 of 8
    pyr3pyr3 Posts: 946member
    JavaCowboy:



    I've found that iTerm.app works great.



    1) I don't know how you would change this though... in iTerm double click selects a word and triple click selects the line though. You can right click (or ctrl + left click) for a menu with select all in it. Or just use Command + a.



    2) There is a preference for 'Selection copies text to clipboard' that allows you to do this.



    3) Profit?



    Quote:

    In a normal x-term, I'd do alt-F (next word) or alt-B (previous word). No, Option-Left and Option-Right don't work in Terminal.



    You have to fool around with OS X to get this working. Normally Linux distros have a /etc/inputrc file... OS X doesn't. I have my own .inputrc file to do this.



    Code:


    "\\e[1~": beginning-of-line

    "\\e[4~": end-of-line

    "\\e[5C": forward-word

    "\\e[5D": backward-word

    "\\e[3~": delete-char







    Those escape chars have to match the keyboard profile that iTerm is using. You can fool around with the default profiles or create your own. Currently forward-word and backword-word aren't working for me. I tried to set them up for ctrl+left or ctrl+right but it didn't work and I didn't spend too much more time on it. I found the info for this on macosxhints.com using google about 3-4 weeks ago.



    My only complaint is that while in a screen session on a linux box (over ssh) 'delete' is interpreted as a 'delete' instead of a backspace. Though in a direct shell this problem doesn't exist. But I've had this problem since I started using OS X. Either it treats 'delete' as a delete instead of backspace or it gives me a system beep because it doesn't know what to do with it. But that's really another topic.
  • Reply 8 of 8
    javacowboyjavacowboy Posts: 802member
    Thanks, dude.



    I just installed iTerm via DarwinPorts. I'll give it a shot.



    Quote:

    Originally posted by pyr3

    JavaCowboy:



    I've found that iTerm.app works great.



    1) I don't know how you would change this though... in iTerm double click selects a word and triple click selects the line though. You can right click (or ctrl + left click) for a menu with select all in it. Or just use Command + a.



    2) There is a preference for 'Selection copies text to clipboard' that allows you to do this.



    3) Profit?







    You have to fool around with OS X to get this working. Normally Linux distros have a /etc/inputrc file... OS X doesn't. I have my own .inputrc file to do this.



    Code:


    "\\e[1~": beginning-of-line

    "\\e[4~": end-of-line

    "\\e[5C": forward-word

    "\\e[5D": backward-word

    "\\e[3~": delete-char







    Those escape chars have to match the keyboard profile that iTerm is using. You can fool around with the default profiles or create your own. Currently forward-word and backword-word aren't working for me. I tried to set them up for ctrl+left or ctrl+right but it didn't work and I didn't spend too much more time on it. I found the info for this on macosxhints.com using google about 3-4 weeks ago.



    My only complaint is that while in a screen session on a linux box (over ssh) 'delete' is interpreted as a 'delete' instead of a backspace. Though in a direct shell this problem doesn't exist. But I've had this problem since I started using OS X. Either it treats 'delete' as a delete instead of backspace or it gives me a system beep because it doesn't know what to do with it. But that's really another topic.



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