Mac OS 10.5

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in macOS edited January 2014
When, and where, what?



As much as I love seeing a higher clock rate, to me the evolution of the Mac OS has always been much more fascinating to me, especially Mac OS X.



Think we will have to wait a full year for WWDC 2006?



I know they always have amazing features in every update, but I cannot even fathom what 10.5 will have.....
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jared

    When, and where, what?



    As much as I love seeing a higher clock rate, to me the evolution of the Mac OS has always been much more fascinating to me, especially Mac OS X.



    Think we will have to wait a full year for WWDC 2006?



    I know they always have amazing features in every update, but I cannot even fathom what 10.5 will have.....




    Timeline wise, this is what I'd guess:



    WWDC 2006 - Jobs will talk about why Tiger is such a hit and all the sales...and longhorn will be coming out end of 06' so you can expect some hint about 10.5 at MacWorld 2007. I wouldn't coun't on 10.5 untill end of 2007.
  • Reply 2 of 27
    keshkesh Posts: 621member
    Jobs has said an 18 month cycle for OS X from here on out. So, figure fall of '06 before we see a new OS.
  • Reply 3 of 27
    the cool gutthe cool gut Posts: 1,714member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kesh

    Jobs has said an 18 month cycle for OS X from here on out. So, figure fall of '06 before we see a new OS.



    Are you sure about that? Wasn't it 18 months between Panther and Tiger?
  • Reply 4 of 27
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,219member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by the cool gut

    Are you sure about that? Wasn't it 18 months between Panther and Tiger?



    You are correct. Up through Panther, Apple released a new version of MacOS X every 12 months or so. After Panther, Apple announced that it would extend the life of each new version of the OS. Tiger, coming approximately 18 months after Panther, is the first OS release since Apple new more leisurely schedule was announced. However, many Mac fans seemed to ignore the fact that 18 months is not 12 months in the mistaken belief that Apple's new OS development schedule will begin after the release of Tiger.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    hypoluxahypoluxa Posts: 637member
    Well I'd be willing to bet that 10.5 will have some new features that MS LH will not have...and other b's & w's. Who know if Apple will "borrow" features off of LH, but it tends to be vis' a vis'. What fetures? I couldn't begin to speculate...actually, I know of one.. let the user be able to turn off the aqua GUI fx, drop shadows, transparency..ridiculously huge icons etc, into a "classic style", so it could possibly be even peppier on older PMacs... just a thought.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by hypoluxa

    Well I'd be willing to bet that 10.5 will have some new features that MS LH will not have...and other b's & w's. Who know if Apple will "borrow" features off of LH, but it tends to be vis' a vis'. What fetures? I couldn't begin to speculate...actually, I know of one.. let the user be able to turn off the aqua GUI fx, drop shadows, transparency..ridiculously huge icons etc, into a "classic style", so it could possibly be even peppier on older PMacs... just a thought.



    Hell, why not just make a OS9 - like shell for OSX, compleat with rainbow apple the crappy pinstripe thing,



    Tell you the truth, OS9 used to have a pull out bar in the lower left, very small, very utilitarian, I would LOVE to make the dock do this, it was the only good thing in OS9
  • Reply 7 of 27
    zozo Posts: 3,115member
    Apple Expo, Paris 2006 (late August/early September)



    Otherwise, January MWSF 2007?
  • Reply 8 of 27
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    a_greer that was the control strip. You can get it for OS X. It's called Control Strip X I believe, and I used to have it in 10.1 or whatever and it was nice. The stuff in the upper right menu bar sort of replaced the functionality of this part of the GUI.
  • Reply 9 of 27
    esxxiesxxi Posts: 75member
    I'd guess we'll first see the 10.5 preview at WWDC2006, with a possible release around Q4 the same year. Not sure on any features but I'd bet resolution independent UI will be one of them, since it's already in (albeit buggy) Tiger.
  • Reply 10 of 27
    keshkesh Posts: 621member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Me

    However, many Mac fans seemed to ignore the fact that 18 months is not 12 months in the mistaken belief that Apple's new OS development schedule will begin after the release of Tiger.



    I'm trying to parse your statement here, but it doesn't make much sense.



    Jobs said there would be more time between each release. It took 18 months for Tiger. 18 > 12. Perhaps 10.5 will be less than 18 months, but if Steve keeps his word it'll certainly be more than 12 months. I just don't get what you're trying to say here.
  • Reply 11 of 27
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aquatic

    a_greer that was the control strip. You can get it for OS X. It's called Control Strip X I believe, and I used to have it in 10.1 or whatever and it was nice. The stuff in the upper right menu bar sort of replaced the functionality of this part of the GUI.



    Dont laugh too hard, but I would love to play with OS9 some more, but I cant seem to make it my startup folder on my mini in 10.4, any hack or work around?
  • Reply 12 of 27
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,219member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kesh

    I'm trying to parse your statement here, but it doesn't make much sense.



    Jobs said there would be more time between each release. It took 18 months for Tiger. 18 > 12. Perhaps 10.5 will be less than 18 months, but if Steve keeps his word it'll certainly be more than 12 months. I just don't get what you're trying to say here.




    Let's go through this slowly.



    10.0 -> 10.1 Approximately 12 months

    10.1 -> 10.2 Approximately 12 months

    10.2 -> 10.3 Approximately 12 months



    [Apple announces that there will be longer intervals between updates in the future.]



    10.3 -> 10.4 Approximately 18 months




    Many Mac users believe that Apple will begin its extension of the update interval following the release of 10.4. If this were the case, then it necessarily follows that 12 months is the same as 18 months.
  • Reply 13 of 27
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mr. Me

    Let's go through this slowly.



    10.0 -> 10.1 Approximately 12 months

    10.1 -> 10.2 Approximately 12 months

    10.2 -> 10.3 Approximately 12 months



    [Apple announces that there will be longer intervals between updates in the future.]



    10.3 -> 10.4 Approximately 18 months




    Many Mac users believe that Apple will begin its extension of the update interval following the release of 10.4. If this were the case, then it necessarily follows that 12 months is the same as 18 months.




    Yep, let's take this slowly :



    10.0 -> 10.1 - 6 months (2001/03/24 -> 2001/09/25)

    10.1 -> 10.2 - 11 months (2001/09/25 -> 2002/08/24)

    10.2 -> 10.3 - 14 months (2002/08/24 ->2003/10/24)

    10.3 -> 10.4 - 18 months (2003/10/24 -> 2005/04/29)



    My guess is that we wont see 10.5 before spring 2007, and we'll probably hear about it at WWDC '06.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    low-filow-fi Posts: 357member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by a_greer

    Dont laugh too hard, but I would love to play with OS9 some more, but I cant seem to make it my startup folder on my mini in 10.4, any hack or work around?



    Booting into Mac OS 9 ended a loooooong time ago. I can't remember the last machines to do so...I think it was some of the Mirrored drive door dual-g4s.
  • Reply 15 of 27
    hugihugi Posts: 33member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    My guess is that we wont see 10.5 before spring 2007, and we'll probably hear about it at WWDC '06.



    Actually, I can see Steve wanting to put out 10.5 before Longhorn, just to rub a little salt into Micrsoft's open, bleeding wounds.



    (not that that rules out a spring 2007 release )
  • Reply 16 of 27
    smhub1smhub1 Posts: 21member
    I'm expecting to have 10.5 by this Christmas if the current rate of updates to Tiger are anything to go by. That or we'll all be upgrading from 10.4.29 to 10.5 as per the above suggested release dates.....
  • Reply 17 of 27
    brendonbrendon Posts: 642member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by JLL

    Yep, let's take this slowly :



    10.0 -> 10.1 - 6 months (2001/03/24 -> 2001/09/25)

    10.1 -> 10.2 - 11 months (2001/09/25 -> 2002/08/24)

    10.2 -> 10.3 - 14 months (2002/08/24 ->2003/10/24)

    10.3 -> 10.4 - 18 months (2003/10/24 -> 2005/04/29)



    My guess is that we wont see 10.5 before spring 2007, and we'll probably hear about it at WWDC '06.




    18 months after the release date of Tiger puts Apple on track to release October or November 2006.



    Apple has been very good about project timelines, 10.5 should be no different. If I remember correctly 10.4 was released late April. Starting with May since it was released late in April would put 10.5 ready for release November of '06, or late October, either way 5/05 + 18 months = 11/06. Look for 10.5 in November 2006. Spring of 2007 would be more like a 24 month cycle.
  • Reply 18 of 27
    kcmackcmac Posts: 1,051member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hugi

    Actually, I can see Steve wanting to put out 10.5 before Longhorn, just to rub a little salt into Micrsoft's open, bleeding wounds.



    (not that that rules out a spring 2007 release )




    That last line may ring very true.



    It would seem though, that the pressure on MS will be so great for the 2006 Holiday season that they will hold to that schedule.



    A January 10.5 would still knock quite a bit of lather off of their party. That's my bet.



    Edit: And I'm talking about January 2007.
  • Reply 19 of 27
    brendonbrendon Posts: 642member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Hugi

    Actually, I can see Steve wanting to put out 10.5 before Longhorn, just to rub a little salt into Micrsoft's open, bleeding wounds.



    (not that that rules out a spring 2007 release )




    Looking at the chart provided by JLL thanks.



    10.0 -> 10.1 - 6 months (2001/03/24 -> 2001/09/25)

    10.1 -> 10.2 - 11 months (2001/09/25 -> 2002/08/24)

    10.2 -> 10.3 - 14 months (2002/08/24 ->2003/10/24)

    10.3 -> 10.4 - 18 months (2003/10/24 -> 2005/04/29)



    It appears that Apple indicated that they could no longer hold to the 12 month target dates, when it took them 14 months to get out 10.3, so they announced that they are on a 18 month cycle and they delivered in 18 months. If anything 10.4 was rushed maybe to position Apple to get another update in before Longhorn. There will be no need now to rush 10.5. 10.4 already implements most of Longhorn technologies. 10.5 will just push that much forther and go into areas that MS would have liked to go if they had the time
  • Reply 20 of 27
    ipodandimacipodandimac Posts: 3,273member
    at this point, apple should wait until 2007, feel out Longhorn buzz, then release 10.5 that's years ahead of where longhorn will be.
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