Apple to ship 2 millionth copy of Tiger; Leopard due by 2007

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in macOS edited January 2014
Apple today announced it expects to deliver the two millionth copy of Mac OS X version 10.4 ?Tiger? by the end of this week -- just six week's after the software went on sale to the public.



The figure includes copies sold at retail, copies delivered under maintenance agreements and copies bundled with Mac systems shipped, making Tiger Apple?s fastest selling OS release ever.



Developer support for Tiger is also setting new records with hundreds of developers including Microsoft and Adobe announcing support for Tiger, Apple said. To date third party developers have released more than 400 Dashboard widgets, 550 Automator actions and 40 Spotlight plug-ins for Tiger.



?The response to Tiger is off the charts,? said Steve Jobs, Apple?s CEO. ?Critics are raving, customers are delighted and developers are creating hundreds of widgets and applications that take advantage of Tiger?s incredible innovations like Spotlight, Dashboard and Automator.?



During his opening speech this morning at the company's annual World Wide Developers Conference, Jobs announced that the next -- and fifth -- major revision of the Mac OS X operating system will be called "Leopard."



?We?re not going to be focusing on it at this conference today, but [...] we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007 -- right around the time Microsoft expects to release Longhorn,? he said.



Jobs promised more information of Leopard (presumably Mac OS X 10.5) during next year's developers conference.
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  • Reply 1 of 47
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    I thought the OS upgrade cycle was slowing down. Thumbs-down.
  • Reply 2 of 47
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
    Yes, 18 month cycles...from 12 month cycles
  • Reply 3 of 47
    Quote:

    I thought the OS upgrade cycle was slowing down. Thumbs-down.



    Not as long as there are 1,999,999 people out there like myself (by the end of this week).



    I would venture a guess that the next version of OS X would be the one that will be fully compatible with Intel Processors. Otherwise, all it would be is a figure to go against Longhorn.
  • Reply 4 of 47
    ishawnishawn Posts: 364member
    I doubt there will be many switches from Mac to Longhorn, do you think? I know a lot of people come to Mac because they don't have to screw with viri and such. Are we ever going to need to worry about that? I guess after all I could just turn off the Airport connection on the mac... when I don't need it. Most of the mac's use is recording. And I will be with Apple until they (Or I myself) die. Apple's music and video production has amazed me.
  • Reply 5 of 47
    gmacgmac Posts: 76member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by endymionls

    I would venture a guess that the next version of OS X would be the one that will be fully compatible with Intel Processors.



    Every version of OSX todate has been fully compatible with Intel chips. Did you watch the keynote?
  • Reply 6 of 47
    No, I haven't watched the Keynote yet, since it wouldn't play last night. I should have said the first commercially availble for the Intel line.
  • Reply 7 of 47
    While OSX currently works with the new intel chips, it only runs at 80% the power of a 2.6 GHZ Powermac.Apple should use the 3.8 GHZ chips as the best instead of the 3.6. Perhaps the new cell proccessors will increase the speed of that.



    I am happy with the updates to the OS that apple is making, at he current rate we should expect OSX 11.0 sometime in 2015.



    -Nitriletiger



    P.S. I certainly hopw that apple doesn 't use those ugly "intel inside" stickers, using the chips is enough of a step into the dark side and using their stickers would just be stupid.
  • Reply 8 of 47
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by nitriletiger

    While OSX currently works with the new intel chips, it only runs at 80% the power of a 2.6 GHZ Powermac.Apple should use the 3.8 GHZ chips as the best instead of the 3.6. Perhaps the new cell proccessors will increase the speed of that.



    I am happy with the updates to the OS that apple is making, at he current rate we should expect OSX 11.0 sometime in 2015.



    -Nitriletiger



    P.S. I certainly hopw that apple doesn 't use those ugly "intel inside" stickers, using the chips is enough of a step into the dark side and using their stickers would just be stupid.




    You're thinking of Rosetta apps, which run really slow.



    From what I saw on the keynote, the Intel comp is running extremely well. Look at how fast the Spotlight results are.



    And since when were faster processors "a step to the dark side"? You, as an end user, won't be able to tell the difference between an Intel Mac and a PPC Mac. You won't. At all.
  • Reply 9 of 47
    ishawnishawn Posts: 364member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    From what I saw on the keynote, the Intel comp is running extremely well. Look at how fast the Spotlight results are.



    Personally... I don't care about how fast Spotlight can find something. If I really want to find it, I'll go get a sandwich and come back. Musicians want to know how this will affect with things like Logic and other recording apps. Since software from Apple has been secretly programmed to run on Intel; I assume that means that apps can run on it too from Apple. Assuming...



    So. I want to be the first to get a hold of a developer who records music and get some sort of a benchmark of plugins or something. I bet people along with myself at places like macmusic.org and osxaudio.com would pay good money just to know that.



    I mean, it's freaking people out. Many are wanting to go and buy the dual 2.7GHz G5's because they know it will be a while until Apple gets it's Intel going.



    I don't blame them.



    Musician's 2 cents. And artists. And scientists. And anyone who gets that "Disk Too Slow" error.
  • Reply 10 of 47
    ishawnishawn Posts: 364member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by nitriletiger

    While OSX currently works with the new intel chips, it only runs at 80% the power of a 2.6 GHZ Powermac.Apple should use the 3.8 GHZ chips as the best instead of the 3.6. Perhaps the new cell proccessors will increase the speed of that.



    Where'd you find that info?
  • Reply 11 of 47
    gmacgmac Posts: 76member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by endymionls

    No, I haven't watched the Keynote yet, since it wouldn't play last night. I should have said the first commercially availble for the Intel line.



    Yeah that makes sense - except they plan to ship Intel machines by next summer which would mean they are going to run Tiger. So probably some 10.4.x version will be first commercial for Intel.
  • Reply 12 of 47
    aquamacaquamac Posts: 585member
    When the Mac/tel are released you will have the Blue Men riding around on Tigers in the commercials. But then you get that stupid Dong din Dong Din sound.
  • Reply 13 of 47
    ghiangeloghiangelo Posts: 95member
    i find this statement to be the curious one:



    quoting Jobs-



    ?We?re not going to be focusing on it at this conference today, but [...] we intend to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007 -- right around the time Microsoft expects to release Longhorn,? he said."





    2007 is also the time frame for Apple to have implimented the complete switch over to Intel across it's product line...



    interesting that it coincides with the introduction of Longhorn (?)



    Jobs also illustrated a Dashboard widget by counting down the days to Longhorn's launch...



    it looks like this is the concern of Apple. the consumer attraction to Longhorn and how Apple is going to compete with it. Apple saw the roadmaps and realized the PPC was not going the direction it needed, while Intel was plowing along with progressively improving CPUs. no doubt at the introduction of Longhorn Microsoft will be presenting it on hardware running at 5Ghz and multicore. is this viable for the PPC roadmap?



    at least by 2007 Apple will be able to put on the table a high designed Power Mac with hardware numbers EQUAL to a Longhorn system... i think this is the point of the shift. i would think by then Leopard will possess some visual features not present on Longhorn that will give it a 'cool' advantage over the PC.
  • Reply 14 of 47
    feraliferali Posts: 173member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by nitriletiger



    I am happy with the updates to the OS that apple is making, at he current rate we should expect OSX 11.0 sometime in 2015.





    in the steve note he clearly said mac os X 10 is going to last them another 20 years. i am assuming that started in 2001, so we wont see mac os 11 until around 2021.
  • Reply 15 of 47
    ishawnishawn Posts: 364member
    Well... people have been waiting for Longhorn for so long they'd take anything. Even XP with new fonts and colors would fool them. And they'd claim it the best ever. No wonder some are a little frightened on the Apple side. I'd be. But also not too worried about it once people get a taste of it's salty beef.
  • Reply 16 of 47
    ishawnishawn Posts: 364member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Ferali

    in the steve note he clearly said mac os X 10 is going to last them another 20 years. i am assuming that started in 2001, so we wont see mac os 11 until around 2021.



    It would have to take something big to go from 10 to 11. Or maybe...

    [hokey spinal tap]Can't you just take 10 and raise it one more? [/hokey spinal tap]
  • Reply 17 of 47
    kcmackcmac Posts: 1,051member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ghiangelo

    it looks like this is the concern of Apple. the consumer attraction to Longhorn and how Apple is going to compete with it.



    I would think it would be the other way around.



    Tiger has most of the features now that Longhorn is claimed to have and more. Leopard will be even better. How will MS deal with this? They will have to sell something that while good, will certainly be behind Leopard from the get go.



    Unless of course, MS chooses to push back Longhorn a little more and grab some more Apple goodies.
  • Reply 18 of 47
    ghiangeloghiangelo Posts: 95member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by kcmac

    I would think it would be the other way around.



    Tiger has most of the features now that Longhorn is claimed to have and more. Leopard will be even better. How will MS deal with this? They will have to sell something that while good, will certainly be behind Leopard from the get go.



    Unless of course, MS chooses to push back Longhorn a little more and grab some more Apple goodies.






    Microsoft possesses over 90% of market share world wide. Apple Mac Os has between 3%-4% market share... it is Apple that has most to lose. the company can't afford a 2% loss. that is half of it's business and a loss of that much would seriously hurt Apple. for Apple to double it's share would be a massive feat. whereas a 2% loss on the side of Microsoft would be managable and not place the company in jeopardy.



    Apple is in a precarious situation. they currently have the better Os on the market yet EVEN NOW Apple is fighting to compete with the current XP, a glorified NT. for 2 years now a fast functional Os X has been available and still Apple struggles to budge from their share position. in 2007 Apple's product position is going to be LESS advantageous with a Longhorn that has similar 'advanced' Os features as compared to the differences between the two presently. 2 million sales of Tiger is only a representation of installed Os replacement, not new market. the most fundamental advantage Apple will have with Intel is hardware parity. this might explain why AMD was over looked, Apple needs to be as 'even' with WinTel systems as it can be. any hiccup in Intel development will also affect the PC world equally. Intel dominates the processor market. AMD hovers at 10%, making them vulnerable.



    Apple needs growth in order to create cushion and movement and it needs every competitive angle it can get. an under developed PPC road map doesn't cut it.



    i think it is a good thing for Apple to adopt Intel. i'm sure Apple will have unique modified component aspects to their line up like they always have had, if not entirely new expanded varieties of iMacs and Power Macs. Apple industrial design is unsurpassed and it has nothing to do with the CPU. but right now Apple just has to position itself to compete.
  • Reply 19 of 47
    kenaustuskenaustus Posts: 910member
    Personally I'm not that worried about Apple's market share. They make the market share they have profitable and not too many computer companies can say that. They also are growing their business, which is just as important.



    One of the factors related to moving a PC user to Macs is the need for the PC user to have someone (a Mac user or knowledgeable salesperson) to spend enough time with them so that they can understand what a Mac (OS X) is all about. The Apple Stores are excellent in this regard and growth in the number of stores will only help.



    As for Longhorn, I believe that might actually help Apple. Every new Win OS requires more horsepower and current user of inexpensive systems are likely to be very unhappy with it when they give it a try. Apple, on the other hand, seems to be able to make old Macs work even better with each new release of OS X. If MS is not very careful they may well turn off a lot of users when Longhorn arrives.
  • Reply 20 of 47
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    I was a bit bummed and mourned the end of Power PC.



    But now that I can see clearer where things are headed. Going Intel is an interesting choice, and just maybe crazy enough to work.



    It seems Intel is open to the idea of innovating hardware that works with Apple?s elegant software. Apple will be able to share with Intel the beauty of software/hardware integration, while Apple will have access to Intel?s massive manufacturing. Apple will be able to use Intel supported motherboards, which should mean using more standard PC cards and memory. No more need to wait for Mac supported stuff we use the same as everyone else.



    Virtualization will allow a Mactel to run Windows or Linux on the same machine. But no other machine will be allowed to run OS X.



    I can imagine Apple will not be selling the Mactel?s any cheaper than Power PC, so Apple will need to produce clearly more powerful, functional and superior x86 machines.



    OS X and Windows will now stand toe to toe on the same hardware. Apple will need to clearly demonstrate OS X is a faster and more user friendly interface than Window?s.



    I can imagine by 2007 the Apple product landscape should look more something like this.



    All lap tops and desk tops should be 64 bit - dual core. All products should have integrated wireless connection (WiFi and Bluetooth). All products should have more standard graphics cards that can support Quartz Extreme 2D and MPEG 4 HD. All products should be able to play BlueRay HD/ HD-DVD optical media.



    Mac Tablet 1.5 ? 1.8 Ghz



    iBook\t\t2.0 -2.3 Ghz



    PowerBook\t2.5 ? 2.8 Ghz



    Mac mini \t\t2.5 ?2.8 Ghz



    iMac\t\t\t3.0 ? 3.2 Ghz



    PowerMac\t\t3.5 ? 4.0 Ghz



    The Mac Tablet as a super light (less than 3 pounds) ultra thin (little more than an inch) storage and display device. Has a single core, built in wireless connection, support 1 GB of memory, 60 GB HD.



    The iBook and PowerBook both have 64 bit dual core CPU and graphics cards that support Quartz Extreme 2D and MPEG 4 HD playback and encoding. The largest iBook is a 15 inch wide screen with SXGA (1280x1024) resolution. Have 100 GB HD and up to 2 GB of RAM.



    The top end PowerBook has a 19? HD (1920x1080) screen, 150 GB HD and support 4GB of RAM. Graphics card that supports MPEG 4 HD 1080 24P.



    Mac mini has 64 bit dual core processors supports 4 GB of memory, 150 GB HD. Graphics card playback and encode MPEG 4 HD 1080 24P.



    iMac has 64 bit dual core processors, support 8 GB RAM, 500 GB HD. Largest iMac has 23? screen with HD (1920x1080) resolution. Graphics card supports Quartz Extreme 2D and MPEG 4 HD encoding and playback



    The top PowerMac has 64 bit quad processors, 16 GB of RAM, PCI ?X and PCI-Express slots, internal RAID, support for double graphic cards (Nvidia SLI, ATI Crossfire) and 3D graphics cards. Pushing dual 40? QXGA (2048x1536) monitors.







    To think about it this way makes it exciting.
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