Why does Apple finally make a product that can sell and hamper it by not advertising it and not updating it?
Because it's been less than 6 months. Because they risk canibalizing other sales. Because it's selling well.
That said, if they would bump up the video memory, CPU, and put a faster hard drive in it, I'd buy today (and pay substantially more than $500). Until then, pass.
No doubt, the freaking thing is brand new. Lets release it, and update it the next day. What are you thinking? Shouldn't it get old before it gets new again? Or do we just start bumping products every week?
When it does get bumped, I hope it's a complete bump like the iMac G5 was just bumped. I'm talking 1.7GHz G4, Radeon 9600 with 128MB RAM (the old one had 64MB right?), Gb ethernet (semi useful for a consumer network, very useful for business), maybe pretty please Firewire 800?
it is possible though that the mini is a one-time only unit, just to test the waters of the low-end market...a new low end machine might be significantly different and maybe not even be mini...all depends on what teh jobsy is thinkin
Is the mini still selling like hot cakes or have sales cooled quite a bit? I've heard both mentioned.
My wild guess is that the mini will not be updated until the iBook is updated.
On the "top sellers" list at store.apple.com, the mini has dropped to the second from the bottom (click on the "top sellers" link-- it's not on the front page). At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
IIRC, the mini was at the top of both lists when introduced.
why would anyone buy it now if it is already outdated? Do you see what I mean?
Would you buy it?
I sure as shit won't
Improve it and I'm there. I don't care if it came out last month, it can't handle the newest OS and that is unacceptable.
True, we might not buy it. But most people don't know about the cycles of the apple computers and would I have no idea that an update is coming. They would just buy now and not really think about waiting for another update.
The Graphics card cant handle Tiger so it should be updated. . .
It's mainly that the graphics card does not take advantage of a few performance improvements in Tiger. I agree that Apple should be looking for a low cost replacement that can do core services. It doesn't have to be high performance graphics, however. This is the bottom of the line after all.
. . . At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
Price wise, I believe this is the market sweet spot, but Apple made this Mac very tiny, a novelty that PC makers will find difficult to copy quickly. It's attention getting, and it will sell because of that. I hope that Apple has plans for a practical low-cost Mac too.
Business may not be too keen on the mini for office computers. Also, folks like me need something just a little bigger and better. I need 2GB of RAM and faster, full-sized hard drives. That's it. What I am doing now is bidding on newer G4 PowerMacs. I'd rather have something new from Apple that is a whole lot smaller than a Power Mac. EDIT: (I am already using a good LCD monitor for this application, otherwise I might have considered an iMac.)
While the above Power Mac is my next purchase, I will eventually replace the beige G3 in my home office. A Mac mini will be okay for that.
On the "top sellers" list at store.apple.com, the mini has dropped to the second from the bottom (click on the "top sellers" link-- it's not on the front page). At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
IIRC, the mini was at the top of both lists when introduced.
I think it had more to do with what the Mini lacked-enough RAM especially for one.
The mini is a perfectly fine machine as it is. I run Tiger on an iBook w/ 1.2GHz and the same 32mb card as in the Mini. The ONLY thing I notice about the GPU not being core-video compatible, is I don't get the ripple affect with dashboard. Thats it. end of story. If you are going to really take advantage of core video, then you would be unding proffesion products. Proffesionals don't buy $500 budget computers. For the average Joe who checks email, surfs the web, uses iLife, and MS Office, it is a great machine. The $500 model is faster than my iBook, and mine runs great. The 256 RAM standard is the only thing holding it back. I saw a rumor a while ago on macosrumors.com, that Apple was going to ditch the "mystery connector", and that would make room for 256 of built-in RAM, like on the iBooks. This would make upgrading a lot cheaper, and allow you to have up to 1.25gb RAM. The 64mb VRAM would be nice for games, but most people aren;t going to use core video on a $500 Mac.
Also, it is still farelly new. you can;t just release a product and then update it 3 months later. You know how pissed off people would be? Apple can't go making all their customers who just bougth a 3 month old computer mad.
I believe it will be updated around WWDC, but will not be in the keynote. i agree with the specsFlounder posted.
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Originally posted by steve666
Why hasn't the Mac Mini been updated?
Why does Apple finally make a product that can sell and hamper it by not advertising it and not updating it?
Because it's been less than 6 months. Because they risk canibalizing other sales. Because it's selling well.
That said, if they would bump up the video memory, CPU, and put a faster hard drive in it, I'd buy today (and pay substantially more than $500). Until then, pass.
The emac was updated to handle Tiger and the Mac Mini should have been also.
Originally posted by steve666
The Graphics card cant handle Tiger so it should be updated. Pc makers dont have a set time for a product to be updated, when it needs it its done.
The emac was updated to handle Tiger and the Mac Mini should have been also.
But not so fast. It's too new. The eMac had not been upodated in a year.
Originally posted by onlooker
But not so fast. It's too new. The eMac had not been upodated in a year.
why would anyone buy it now if it is already outdated? Do you see what I mean?
Would you buy it?
I sure as shit won't
Improve it and I'm there. I don't care if it came out last month, it can't handle the newest OS and that is unacceptable.
Originally posted by steve666
why would anyone buy it now if it is already outdated? Do you see what I mean?
Would you buy it?
I sure as shit won't
Improve it and I'm there. I don't care if it came out last month, it can't handle the newest OS and that is unacceptable.
Oddly enough it's like the best selling computer in England, and they still sell like crazy here so I'm going to disagree with you on that.
My wild guess is that the mini will not be updated until the iBook is updated.
$499
1.42 Ghz G4
80Gb HD
512 Mb RAM
64 Mb 9600
combo drive
$599
1.67 Ghz G4
100Gb HD
512 Mb RAM
64Mb 9600
Superdrive
Things I'd like to see that I think we probably won't
1.) 2 RAM slots
2.) easier to open case
Originally posted by Hudson1
Is the mini still selling like hot cakes or have sales cooled quite a bit? I've heard both mentioned.
My wild guess is that the mini will not be updated until the iBook is updated.
On the "top sellers" list at store.apple.com, the mini has dropped to the second from the bottom (click on the "top sellers" link-- it's not on the front page). At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
IIRC, the mini was at the top of both lists when introduced.
Originally posted by steve666
why would anyone buy it now if it is already outdated? Do you see what I mean?
Would you buy it?
I sure as shit won't
Improve it and I'm there. I don't care if it came out last month, it can't handle the newest OS and that is unacceptable.
True, we might not buy it. But most people don't know about the cycles of the apple computers and would I have no idea that an update is coming. They would just buy now and not really think about waiting for another update.
Originally posted by alliancep.s.i
it needs to be updated whether its new or not. out of the box its junk.
Yeah! Whoo! Tell it like it is man!
You fuckwit.
Originally posted by steve666
The Graphics card cant handle Tiger so it should be updated. . .
It's mainly that the graphics card does not take advantage of a few performance improvements in Tiger. I agree that Apple should be looking for a low cost replacement that can do core services. It doesn't have to be high performance graphics, however. This is the bottom of the line after all.
Originally posted by Gamblor
. . . At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
Price wise, I believe this is the market sweet spot, but Apple made this Mac very tiny, a novelty that PC makers will find difficult to copy quickly. It's attention getting, and it will sell because of that. I hope that Apple has plans for a practical low-cost Mac too.
Business may not be too keen on the mini for office computers. Also, folks like me need something just a little bigger and better. I need 2GB of RAM and faster, full-sized hard drives. That's it. What I am doing now is bidding on newer G4 PowerMacs. I'd rather have something new from Apple that is a whole lot smaller than a Power Mac. EDIT: (I am already using a good LCD monitor for this application, otherwise I might have considered an iMac.)
While the above Power Mac is my next purchase, I will eventually replace the beige G3 in my home office. A Mac mini will be okay for that.
Originally posted by Flounder
My Guess for the next update (whenever it comes, I'm guessing no later than paris in september)
$499
1.42 Ghz G4
80Gb HD
512 Mb RAM
64 Mb 9600
combo drive
And that would get me to buy one
Originally posted by Gamblor
On the "top sellers" list at store.apple.com, the mini has dropped to the second from the bottom (click on the "top sellers" link-- it's not on the front page). At amazon, it's 4th place behind three iMac models. Interesting, that-- One would think that a lower priced model would sell better... Kind of suggests that the idea of the market "sweet spot" isn't set in concrete.
IIRC, the mini was at the top of both lists when introduced.
I think it had more to do with what the Mini lacked-enough RAM especially for one.
Also, it is still farelly new. you can;t just release a product and then update it 3 months later. You know how pissed off people would be? Apple can't go making all their customers who just bougth a 3 month old computer mad.
I believe it will be updated around WWDC, but will not be in the keynote. i agree with the specsFlounder posted.