Sorry, I'm just one of those people who winces when I hear the words "integrated" and "graphics" or "shared" and "memory" in the same sentence.
And oddly enough, most games are not particular about fast CPUs, but rather GPUs, so I don't really follow. The better your GPU, the more eye candy you can see. Intel-ANYTHING graphics cards are weak as compared to the latest radeons and GForces. Screen resolutions don't scale gracefully on LCDs, so I'd like to play <game X> at high settings at native screen resolutions. Is that too much to ask of a new computer?
Sorry, I'm just one of those people who winces when I hear the words "integrated" and "graphics" or "shared" and "memory" in the same sentence.
And oddly enough, most games are not particular about fast CPUs, but rather GPUs, so I don't really follow. The better your GPU, the more eye candy you can see. Intel-ANYTHING graphics cards are weak as compared to the latest radeons and GForces. Screen resolutions don't scale gracefully on LCDs, so I'd like to play <game X> at high settings at native screen resolutions. Is that too much to ask of a new computer?
no of course Intel Intergrated Graphics are crud compare to the latest geforces and radeons. But when have you ever seen the latest geforce's and radeons inside a portable, more particurly, an APPLE portable. Great company, but are SOOOO behind on GPU's (a whole nother debate.)
But, you are perfectly correct, the better the GPU, the more eye candy. The worse the CPU, the worse the physics engine and computer AI.
Ive never used an LCD to game on. I'd love to try it, but im still working of an old 15" CRT.
no of course Intel Intergrated Graphics are crud compare to the latest geforces and radeons. But when have you ever seen the latest geforce's and radeons inside a portable, more particurly, an APPLE portable. Great company, but are SOOOO behind on GPU's (a whole nother debate.)
That's inaccurate. Mobility Radeon 9700's are very nice chips and when they arrived on the Powerbook they were new. To this day, if a Powerbook can not run a game playably, the processor is the reason. (Discounting the alu spraypainted iBook at the low end of course.)
On the PC side where the updates are rolling out at a more frantic pace, and people are willing to accept a miditower as a "laptop" as long as someone bolted a display, a keyboard and a fan on it, we are seeing GF6800 Go and Mobility X800.
I think if the processors don't get a significant bump, it's very possible that the GPU's are not changing in a (presumed) PowerPC Powerbook update. I would just expect them to up the default RAM and save R&D expense - and as long as the CPU is the bottleneck, they'd be stupid to do more.
When the x86 PB comes out, though, it'll be PCI express and all choices are open. Mobility X700 is a good bet currently but if it takes until late spring with the x86 PB's then there will be something newer and better from either real GPU company.
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And oddly enough, most games are not particular about fast CPUs, but rather GPUs, so I don't really follow. The better your GPU, the more eye candy you can see. Intel-ANYTHING graphics cards are weak as compared to the latest radeons and GForces. Screen resolutions don't scale gracefully on LCDs, so I'd like to play <game X> at high settings at native screen resolutions. Is that too much to ask of a new computer?
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
Sorry, I'm just one of those people who winces when I hear the words "integrated" and "graphics" or "shared" and "memory" in the same sentence.
And oddly enough, most games are not particular about fast CPUs, but rather GPUs, so I don't really follow. The better your GPU, the more eye candy you can see. Intel-ANYTHING graphics cards are weak as compared to the latest radeons and GForces. Screen resolutions don't scale gracefully on LCDs, so I'd like to play <game X> at high settings at native screen resolutions. Is that too much to ask of a new computer?
no of course Intel Intergrated Graphics are crud compare to the latest geforces and radeons. But when have you ever seen the latest geforce's and radeons inside a portable, more particurly, an APPLE portable. Great company, but are SOOOO behind on GPU's (a whole nother debate.)
But, you are perfectly correct, the better the GPU, the more eye candy. The worse the CPU, the worse the physics engine and computer AI.
Ive never used an LCD to game on. I'd love to try it, but im still working of an old 15" CRT.
Originally posted by pyriX
Anyways, this graphics chipset has a core clock of 700mhz or something, above and beyong anything every released in IGP graphics. [...]
Just my $0.02AUD
For $0.02AUD you only get a GMA 900 running at 325 MHz.
I put my ? 0.02 on this. In the Mac mini and perhaps also in the iBook replacing the Radeon 9200.
Originally posted by pyriX
no of course Intel Intergrated Graphics are crud compare to the latest geforces and radeons. But when have you ever seen the latest geforce's and radeons inside a portable, more particurly, an APPLE portable. Great company, but are SOOOO behind on GPU's (a whole nother debate.)
That's inaccurate. Mobility Radeon 9700's are very nice chips and when they arrived on the Powerbook they were new. To this day, if a Powerbook can not run a game playably, the processor is the reason. (Discounting the alu spraypainted iBook at the low end of course.)
On the PC side where the updates are rolling out at a more frantic pace, and people are willing to accept a miditower as a "laptop" as long as someone bolted a display, a keyboard and a fan on it, we are seeing GF6800 Go and Mobility X800.
When the x86 PB comes out, though, it'll be PCI express and all choices are open. Mobility X700 is a good bet currently but if it takes until late spring with the x86 PB's then there will be something newer and better from either real GPU company.