PC/AT BIOS or EFI for future Mactel systems ?

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by IntlHarvester







    And you don't know the difference between a CPU and a chipset (which Apple does manufacture).







    Apple does not really manufacture the chipset, at least the memory controller of the G5. Officialy it's an Apple design, but in reality it's an IBM one.
  • Reply 22 of 27
    zozo Posts: 3,117member
    my god... are we gonna be able to slam on "del" at bootup and enter a blue screen Bios setup?



    How very very retro!



    First UNIX command lines, and now maybe 640x480 bios setups!



    Whats the world coming to???



  • Reply 23 of 27
    cwestphacwestpha Posts: 48member
    Apple probebly wont allow consumers into the BIOS. They will just depend upon hardware detection, optimal settings, and the SPID of memory to disctate the settings. Only a small amount of PC users ever go into the BIOS anymore. With EFI and BIOS 2.0 you wont have to do anything, it will be easier to program, and you can intigrate a GUI with testing tools into it.
  • Reply 24 of 27
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Of course Apple will allow consumers access. They have to so their service techs can get access when they need it. It'll just be a key combo like it is now for single user mode.
  • Reply 25 of 27
    cwestphacwestpha Posts: 48member
    nonesense, one of the features of BIOS 2.0 and EFI is a modual that can be loaded at start to allow tech support access to those base settings with a pre-enviornment GUI.

    Its designed in such a way as to make it possible for remote troubleshooting at all enviornment levels (BIOS, pre-OS, and OS). Atleast thats the wintel implementation being planed for Longhorn intigration.



    Besides when was the last time you had to go into your hardware level configuration utility with your G5 mac? Apple CONTROLS what goes into its system and what doesnt. If you install some memory that isnt OKed by Apple... good luck you voided your warentee. There is no dramatic change to the user with the PPC to X86 switch. Programers and hardware makers are the only ones that have to worry. Apple just switched who makes the CPU and outsourced mainboard design. thats it.
  • Reply 26 of 27
    deestardeestar Posts: 105member
    Looks like EFI is evolving into a more open standard, UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface)



    Not a lot of info on the site yet but will be interesting to see how this evolves...



    UEFI.org
  • Reply 27 of 27
    ruudruud Posts: 20member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cwestpha

    Apple probebly wont allow consumers into the BIOS.



    They allow consumers to access OpenFirmware currently. They don't heavily advertise it, but if you know what you're doing, you can certainly access it. I see no reason why it would be different on the intel platform.
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