Good/Bad Wintel Laptops

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  • Reply 21 of 33
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Placebo

    But they're so UGLY!



    meh...at least they don't try to make it "cool" by adding all that crap that a lot of manufacturers add, which just ends up looking bad (to me at least...I like my stuff simple). IBM's are def. business machines and the Apple of the PC world.
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  • Reply 22 of 33
    skatmanskatman Posts: 609member
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    When I boot up the XP (SP2) machine in the house, connecting to that network takes closer to 15-30 seconds.



    The reason for slowdown there is SP2. Avoid SP2 like black plauge!
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  • Reply 23 of 33
    kishankishan Posts: 732member
    I run a VPR Matrix Notebook. With the proper maintinence of the OS (an admitted pain in the ass) it performs very good. I wish it had USB 2.0 ports, but other than that, it is an awesome notebook. Plus, the Porsche design is teutonic in its clean layout.
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  • Reply 24 of 33
    mikefmikef Posts: 698member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by skatman

    The reason for slowdown there is SP2. Avoid SP2 like black plauge!



    Better advice would be not to take advice from skatman about issues he knows nothing about.
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  • Reply 25 of 33
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by skatman

    The reason for slowdown there is SP2. Avoid SP2 like black plauge!



    You avoid using Safari's spellcheck like the black 'plauge' as well, I see.
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  • Reply 26 of 33
    wingnutwingnut Posts: 197member
    lol



    I don't think I would go without SP2. It includes a large amount of security fixes. Besides, it's not even my machine to manipulate. I merely set up it's wireless interface.
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  • Reply 27 of 33
    skatmanskatman Posts: 609member
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    I don't think I would go without SP2. It includes a large amount of security fixes.



    You can get all of those fixes without installing SP2.



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    Plus, the Porsche design is teutonic in its clean layout.



    What's Porsche design?

    The notebooks look to be made by the same sweatshop as for HPQ.



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    Better advice would be not to take advice from skatman about issues he knows nothing about.



    What's your qualification to judge my opinion?
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  • Reply 28 of 33
    mikefmikef Posts: 698member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by skatman

    What's your qualification to judge my opinion?



    I have been a professional Windows software developer for more than a decade and a hobbyist developer for almost 25 years. I am a core developer for a software company that produces Windows software in use by most Fortune 500 companies, gov't agencies, etc. Does that count for anything?



    Now, what's your qualification?



    Your personal opinion does not constitute fact. Given that millions of Windows XP users have installed SP2 and have no problems, why should I believe an anonymous poster on AI that SP2 should be avoided like "like black plauge (sic)"?
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  • Reply 29 of 33
    kishankishan Posts: 732member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by skatman

    What's Porsche design?

    The notebooks look to be made by the same sweatshop as for HPQ.




    Porsche design



    The computer is designed in Austria by the guy who designed the body for the original 911. The assembly, as you correctly pointed out, is somewhere in the pacific rim (kind of like a certain small computer company from Cupertino, California).



    The case is Magnesium and the black part beneath the keyboard, while still plastic, feels more like a warm metal and is glass smooth even after two years (unsure of the specific polymer). The keyboard itself is made of a smoky semi-transparent plastic that partially reveals the mechanicals of the keyboard underneath.



    Its a simple and elegant design that reminds me of an Audi interior.
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  • Reply 30 of 33
    wingnutwingnut Posts: 197member
    I know that I can get all of those patches without SP2, but that's a major pain. Also, MS has a habit of offering updates for machines with the latest service pack installed. It's hard enough for them to stay in front of vulnerabilities, so I would prefer to be using the same OS that they are trying to patch. I don't like their security center app, so I simply disable it using the services manager. Otherwise, I don't see any visible differences, short of the wireless network manager.
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  • Reply 31 of 33
    gene cleangene clean Posts: 3,481member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mikef

    I have been a professional Windows software developer for more than a decade and a hobbyist developer for almost 25 years. I am a core developer for a software company that produces Windows software in use by most Fortune 500 companies, gov't agencies, etc. Does that count for anything?



    Sure, if you tell us the software. Anybody can claim to be a Windows developer for a decade and work for the company X...
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  • Reply 32 of 33
    skatmanskatman Posts: 609member
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    Now, what's your qualification?



    I have 30 years experience in janitorial science and a Ph. D. in hamburgerology. Did my thesis on Big Mac vs. Whopper.



    And here I'm talking about high technology among the giants of the modern computer age! Silly me!



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    Your personal opinion does not constitute fact.



    Banality if you ask me.



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    Given that millions of Windows XP users have installed SP2 and have no problems,



    Do you have any data to back that up?



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    I know that I can get all of those patches without SP2, but that's a major pain.



    Hmm... don't complain about slow connection then. You know, if you don't connect to network at all, you'll be 100% safe and you don't need SP2 or any security fixes at all!



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    Also, MS has a habit of offering updates for machines with the latest service pack installed.



    I assure you that you can get ALL the updates on the machine with SP1 as well. Don't believe, call MS!



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    It's hard enough for them to stay in front of vulnerabilities,



    Just don't surf porn so much and you'll be fine.





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    The computer is designed in Austria by the guy who designed the body for the original 911.



    Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

    That's like a guy who designed a toilet paper dispenser desiding that he is so cool that he goes ahead and designs a space shuttle!
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  • Reply 33 of 33
    wingnutwingnut Posts: 197member
    At least I said why I prefer SP2. Your only advice is to avoid it like the plague. Anyway, I said it earlier: "To each his own." You use SP1, I'll use SP2. Fair enough?
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