Apple battling community over design of third Manhattan store

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  • Reply 21 of 34
    jeffharrisjeffharris Posts: 899member
    The Flatiron District is one of the coolest, hottest neighborhoods in town!

    There are numerous photographers, designers, architects, modeling agencies, pro photo and digital output shops. Slick restaurants, high-end clothing shops, etc., etc., etc.. There may be a lot of big chain stores in the area, but mall it ain't. It's a lively and thriving neighborhood.



    In New York, decrepit is cool. Sanitized chain stores are evil. A thing to avoid, like cars with New Jersey plates!



    Tekserve is a huge concern for me. I've been going there for years through their various moves and gradual expansion. They consult, sell and repair everything Macintosh as well as pro graphic, audio, video, you-name-it AND all kinds of software and gadgets.



    The current store... although it's unlike any store most have ever seen... is vast! I'd guess somewhere around 10,000 sq ft, counting their retail and repair areas. I'm not even trying to estimate their storage space, which is on a separate floor.



    The Landmark Commission can be a real pain to deal with, but they DO make an effort to retain the character of neighborhoods. The "Urban Renewal" of the 50s and 60s woke people up and they do their utmost to keep eyesore stores and buildings to a minimum.



    Anyway, if I had to make a choice? Tekserve would win!!!
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  • Reply 22 of 34
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by kerryb

    Speaking as a New Yorker, you should see how ugly the new WTC has become from input by politicians, the police and the fire department.



    Yeah, that's true.



    I live in Brooklyn, so I've been following the mess with the WTC.



    To some degree it seems it could not have been any other way.
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  • Reply 23 of 34
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    The NYC Apple Store in the old post office is beautiful and maintains perfect congruency with the other stores. That's the direction Apple should take with this.
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  • Reply 24 of 34
    emcemc Posts: 27member
    Why not something with a brick facade similar to the Regent Street store in London. I know that the space is nowhere near as large but with a possibility to go for three stories something with that look and feel could go there.





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  • Reply 25 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mdriftmeyer

    Thanks for the FYI, but to the originator of NIMBY above, I prefer people actually type out these phrases within a broad group discussion and save the IM crap for IM.



    You mean save the INSTANT MESSENGER crap for INSTANT MESSENGER.
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  • Reply 26 of 34
    Quote:

    Originally posted by spylaw4

    NIMBYs the lot of them. Apple's design is a breath of fresh air in what looks like a pretty decrepit area.



    Spylaw, I'm amazed at how your fantastic (TM) powers can discern how crappy Fifth Avenue is. That area is a stone's throw away from the Flatiron building and there are glitzy stores right down the block. Real estate in that area is sky high, and it's very clean and it sits in a MAJOR shopping district. You may as well call the Apple SOHO store a slum too, since it's next to a restaurant and a cobblestone path.



    I suppose if I were to see a shot of Picadilly Square with skinheads ruffling passerby I'd have to condemn the whole area surrounding it as being scruffy as well, eh?



    I'm as much of an Apple tool as you are but as a NYer I find your snap judgement from a handful of pictures just not very intelligent.

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  • Reply 27 of 34
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by mynamehere

    You mean save the INSTANT MESSENGER crap for INSTANT MESSENGER.



    I'm still waiting for an expansion of FYI.



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  • Reply 28 of 34
    mynameheremynamehere Posts: 560member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    I'm still waiting for an expansion of FYI.







    Well, it took me a while to figure out what IMO / IMHO meant since they can pretty much go anywhere and don't really give a sentence any more meaning than it had before.



    EDIT: FYI stands for F*** You, Idiot
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  • Reply 29 of 34
    They do have one valid point - I was driving past the Walnut Creek store the other night and the Apple logo is so bright it lights up the street in front of the store. Almost glaring for a driver.



    It's un-Apple in its non-subtleness. It's Microsoft bright, not 'sleeping iBook cool'.



    That said, the exist façade they're trying to preserve is not worth saving and it is BANANA tomfoolery they're dealing with. They tear-down is probably a way to get around redesign rules.
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  • Reply 30 of 34
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by ClimbingTheLog

    They do have one valid point - I was driving past the Walnut Creek store the other night and the Apple logo is so bright it lights up the street in front of the store. Almost glaring for a driver.



    It's un-Apple in its non-subtleness. It's Microsoft bright, not 'sleeping iBook cool'.




    I have the perfect solution. When the store is closed, the logo... pulses slowly.



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  • Reply 31 of 34
    Quote:

    I have the perfect solution. When the store is closed, the logo... pulses slowly.



    That would actually be unbelievibly cool



    stu
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  • Reply 32 of 34
    tchwojkotchwojko Posts: 139member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aegisdesign

    NIMBY isn't IM crap FYI. ;-)



    It's in the OED and even in the OAD that Apple ships in Tiger. It's an acronym that's been around since 1980, well before IM.




    Acronyms are evil.
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  • Reply 33 of 34
    trick falltrick fall Posts: 1,271member
    I think they need to go back to the drawing board. While the Andrew's coffee shop was not exactly a beautiful design if they are going to redo they might as well do it well and more in character with the neighborhood.



    Quote:

    Tekserve is a huge concern for me



    While I'd certainly be concerned if I owned Tekserve there's definitely a market for them on the higher end stuff. I mean you're not going to buy a mac with digidesign hardware from the Apple store.
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  • Reply 34 of 34
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Kickaha

    I have the perfect solution. When the store is closed, the logo... pulses slowly.







    That is such an awesome idea.



    The store could be ready to go within seconds of opening the door in the morning, but shutting it down would take a little longer......
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