Intel Merom CPU already works!

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    @homenow@homenow Posts: 998member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Telomar

    Actually tape out refers back to the days when they used to store designs on magnetic tape. The tape out was when the design was completed and written to tape to be handed over to the next team.



    It could even go back further when circuits were actually laid out using black tape to create the layout of the board as camera ready art for photolythography.
  • Reply 22 of 31
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cwestpha

    Ok time for some corrections from a Intel Insider.



    Merom is a 65nm Pentium M deritivitive. It does not appear to be netburst (pentium 4) based. It includes SSE3 extensions but merom (this is NOT the dektop version of the processor) does NOT include 64 bit extensions as of April 2005. However the desktop version DOES have 64 bit extensions.




    You know for an "insider" you get a lot of stuff wrong. Merom is 64 bit as well.
  • Reply 23 of 31
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    MacWorld article about next-generation Intel



    Of interest:

    Quote:

    He also declined to discuss whether the chips will feature two processor cores or four.



  • Reply 24 of 31
    wmfwmf Posts: 1,164member
    Quote:

    He also declined to discuss whether the chips will feature two processor cores or four. [/B]



    Intel's just being coy. Their roadmaps show no quad-core in 2006.
  • Reply 25 of 31
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by @homenow

    It could even go back further when circuits were actually laid out using black tape to create the layout of the board as camera ready art for photolythography.



    That's where the term came from. Although it was reserved for the first post-prototype version genuinely believed to be free from errata.
  • Reply 26 of 31
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Cosmos 1999

    No. Again, a misleading information. Merom seems to have been taped-in (design finished and sent to the fab) in June, precisely first or second week of June 2005. This step is before creation of the mask (tape-out). Is this really important anyway?



    Sent to the fab for production testing, not prototyping. Hence actually taped-out.



    Production testing can still take many months.
  • Reply 27 of 31
    smalmsmalm Posts: 677member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cwestpha

    Merom [...] does NOT include 64 bit extensions as of April 2005.

    However the desktop version DOES have 64 bit extensions.



    Originally posted by Telomar

    Merom is 64 bit as well.



    as of April 2005 was correct.

    But plans change
  • Reply 28 of 31
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by smalM

    as of April 2005 was correct.

    But plans change




    Try Google. I had no trouble getting March (2004 that is by the way. Back when Intel axed the follow on to Prescott, which would be a logical time to make the call) and you don't make a design change that big less than 6 months from tape out. But hey I've been wrong before...that usually involved women though
  • Reply 29 of 31
    smalmsmalm Posts: 677member
    Merom was originally planned as the successor to Dothan in 2005. But that Merom (single core) isn't the Merom (dual core) which will succeed Yonah.

    Sometimes plans change alot...
  • Reply 30 of 31
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by smalM

    Merom was originally planned as the successor to Dothan in 2005. But that Merom (single core) isn't the Merom (dual core) which will succeed Yonah.

    Sometimes plans change alot...




    Not according to publications dated March 2004. They quite specifically state Yonah will be followed by Merom that will be produced on a 65 nm process with IA32e (Intel's 64 bit extensions). In fact the only difference between the published specs and final Merom seems to be power dissipation, which was listed as higher and the fact they weren't sure on hyperthreading. Designs don't change that fast.



    Edit: And I now found reference to Merom as a 64 bit follow on to Yonah (Jonah) from Feb 2004 along with specific references to desktop and server versions, Conroe and Gilo. So can we say the whole Merom wasn't 64 bit theory is thoroughly debunked?
  • Reply 31 of 31
    daveleedavelee Posts: 245member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Telomar

    Not according to publications dated March 2004. They quite specifically state Yonah will be followed by Merom that will be produced on a 65 nm process with IA32e (Intel's 64 bit extensions). In fact the only difference between the published specs and final Merom seems to be power dissipation, which was listed as higher and the fact they weren't sure on hyperthreading. Designs don't change that fast.



    Edit: And I now found reference to Merom as a 64 bit follow on to Yonah (Jonah) from Feb 2004 along with specific references to desktop and server versions, Conroe and Gilo. So can we say the whole Merom wasn't 64 bit theory is thoroughly debunked?




    Linky for the info about Merom and x86 64-bit from El Reg (March 2004).



    Is there still 4MB cache?
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