Newton 2000 has a High res screen, no colour though. I might consider it if it played Mp3's, I really dont need one more thing to carry around on a daily basis. Like most people, I have far too much crap, and not enough pockets.
Anyways, the point is, That an ultra compact tablet is not a PDA, and should not be considered such. It should be considered as a fully functional computer sans keyboard.
Well, considering I'm on the verge of giving up on my iPaq and going back to Palm (using an iPaq on a Mac is like trying to put a round hole through a square hole [a phrase my wife came up with]), I'm very curious to see what Apple comes up with in this market.
And while the Newton is cool, and I miss my 2100 greatly, the damned thing was too big to be a good PDA.
I couldn't disagree more... unless you define a PDA as 'great for looking up data, crappy at entering more than a few letters or numbers'
I wrote journal articles on my Newton, for cripe's sake. I ran spreadsheets. There's a web server for it. Yes, I said *server*, not browser.
The Newton wasn't a PDA, it was a full fledged computer. It's a shame that the other PDA companies had to dumb down their products so badly as to make the entire genre get redefined.
Oh, and as for the HWR... it's been hoisted into MacOS X as Ink. And it makes the Tablet PC HWR look really really sad. And oh god, the *interface* on Tablet PCs... *shudder* Useless.
I couldn't disagree more... unless you define a PDA as 'great for looking up data, crappy at entering more than a few letters or numbers'
I think the Newton was only better at entering data because the screen was bigger. Navigation on the Newt was a pain because it required you to use the stylus. Sure, there was that power button hack for flipping pages in the book reader, but other than that, there was no one-hand operation for quickly looking up information.
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I wrote journal articles on my Newton, for cripe's sake. I ran spreadsheets. There's a web server for it. Yes, I said *server*, not browser.
Great. I write journal articles on my laptop and I run server software on a computer that I don't carry around with me everywhere. Was the Newton powerful, ahead of its time, and cool as hell in many, many ways? You bet. But it was really more of a portable computer than a PDA, and this showed.
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The Newton wasn't a PDA, it was a full fledged computer.
So now you're agreeing with me that it wasn't a very good PDA, in much the same way that my Powerbook isn't as handy for some things as my Palm?
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It's a shame that the other PDA companies had to dumb down their products so badly as to make the entire genre get redefined.
Well, if things like the iPaq and the Lifedrive are any indication, the products are being smartened up. Or dumbed up, as the case may be.
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Oh, and as for the HWR... it's been hoisted into MacOS X as Ink. And it makes the Tablet PC HWR look really really sad. And oh god, the *interface* on Tablet PCs... *shudder* Useless. [/B]
That's true, although the HWR on my iPaq is pretty darned good?even though I use graffiti.
I might agree if it was a much better convertible, withput the dodgy/snappy hinge designs of most other convertables. Perhaps if the took an approach like the HP, and made a really thin detachable keyboard?
Were are talking about Apple designers here. I have little doubt that they can not come up with " killer app" convertible tablet design for a laptop computer. Especially sense these guys have had what... 7 years, or so to look at all the faults of the existing designs, and know the complaints people have of them. It doesn't take a genius to know that a convertible design is the far more practical approach to this from a consumers stand point, and the companies standpoint being that it can not take any existing sales away from your laptops, because they are your laptops. If it exists, and Apple didn't invent it. They re-invent it.
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Anyways, the point is, That an ultra compact tablet is not a PDA, and should not be considered such. It should be considered as a fully functional computer sans keyboard.
And while the Newton is cool, and I miss my 2100 greatly, the damned thing was too big to be a good PDA.
I wrote journal articles on my Newton, for cripe's sake. I ran spreadsheets. There's a web server for it. Yes, I said *server*, not browser.
The Newton wasn't a PDA, it was a full fledged computer. It's a shame that the other PDA companies had to dumb down their products so badly as to make the entire genre get redefined.
Oh, and as for the HWR... it's been hoisted into MacOS X as Ink. And it makes the Tablet PC HWR look really really sad. And oh god, the *interface* on Tablet PCs... *shudder* Useless.
Originally posted by Kickaha
I couldn't disagree more... unless you define a PDA as 'great for looking up data, crappy at entering more than a few letters or numbers'
I think the Newton was only better at entering data because the screen was bigger. Navigation on the Newt was a pain because it required you to use the stylus. Sure, there was that power button hack for flipping pages in the book reader, but other than that, there was no one-hand operation for quickly looking up information.
I wrote journal articles on my Newton, for cripe's sake. I ran spreadsheets. There's a web server for it. Yes, I said *server*, not browser.
Great. I write journal articles on my laptop and I run server software on a computer that I don't carry around with me everywhere. Was the Newton powerful, ahead of its time, and cool as hell in many, many ways? You bet. But it was really more of a portable computer than a PDA, and this showed.
The Newton wasn't a PDA, it was a full fledged computer.
So now you're agreeing with me that it wasn't a very good PDA, in much the same way that my Powerbook isn't as handy for some things as my Palm?
It's a shame that the other PDA companies had to dumb down their products so badly as to make the entire genre get redefined.
Well, if things like the iPaq and the Lifedrive are any indication, the products are being smartened up. Or dumbed up, as the case may be.
Oh, and as for the HWR... it's been hoisted into MacOS X as Ink. And it makes the Tablet PC HWR look really really sad. And oh god, the *interface* on Tablet PCs... *shudder* Useless. [/B]
That's true, although the HWR on my iPaq is pretty darned good?even though I use graffiti.
9-10in widescreen
about the size a piece of paper 8 x 11 or less
flash harddrive 20-30gb
10 hour real world bat life or better
Bt 2.0=(stereo for itunes)
wifi, wimax, cellular chipsets
screen covered in tough book/ nasa quality "glass" or polycarbonate
built in cover that folds away that can protect the back or front
tough book protection standards
Originally posted by pyriX
I might agree if it was a much better convertible, withput the dodgy/snappy hinge designs of most other convertables. Perhaps if the took an approach like the HP, and made a really thin detachable keyboard?
Were are talking about Apple designers here. I have little doubt that they can not come up with " killer app" convertible tablet design for a laptop computer. Especially sense these guys have had what... 7 years, or so to look at all the faults of the existing designs, and know the complaints people have of them. It doesn't take a genius to know that a convertible design is the far more practical approach to this from a consumers stand point, and the companies standpoint being that it can not take any existing sales away from your laptops, because they are your laptops. If it exists, and Apple didn't invent it. They re-invent it.