Apple laptops suck in comparison to similarly priced, or even a thousand dollars less, PC laptops.
End of discussion. Anybody who argues is lying to themselves.
The relative PC/Mac pricing issue is irrelevant. Either you value an Apple box and OS X for the price they are sold, or you don't. If you do, you pay the price willingly. If you don't, vote with your pocketbook and buy something else. That's all there is to it.
Either way the bitching is just so much useless noise. Apple won't ever give a crap about the words, they will give a crap if the marketshare goes down. Notice which direction that has actually been headed lately??? I think that shows you have the wrong tree to bark at.
If you think about it... you are really paying for the quality operating system. It doesn't really matter if Acer ships a 12GHz processor in five years (yeah right), if the code is sloppy - and let's face it... Windows XP's code is 50 million lines, while OSX is like 10 million - then all that sloppy code will waste processor clockcycles. I am amazed at how well OS X performs on old 233MHz iMacs when Windows 2000 crawls on my AMD 850MHz. The OS is the heart of the computer, and it's a strong, healthy heart.
If you think about it... you are really paying for the quality operating system. It doesn't really matter if Acer ships a 12GHz processor in five years (yeah right), if the code is sloppy - and let's face it... Windows XP's code is 50 million lines, while OSX is like 10 million - then all that sloppy code will waste processor clockcycles. I am amazed at how well OS X performs on old 233MHz iMacs when Windows 2000 crawls on my AMD 850MHz. The OS is the heart of the computer, and it's a strong, healthy heart.
I think that when the Intel transition starts going strong and software developers have their titles over to x86, the best route will be to install OS X on a PC.
And if it's illegal?
So's charging $2500 for a laptop with a sub-2GHz processor.
I think that when the Intel transition starts going strong and software developers have their titles over to x86, the best route will be to install OS X on a PC.
And if it's illegal?
So's charging $2500 for a laptop with a sub-2GHz processor.
You've become really cantankerous. We get the point that you think macs are too expensive, and have some interest in AMD. But it's very tiresome to hear it again and again, especially since the whiners really have no idea. If you have a problem, don't whine, just don't buy a mac.
There are a lot of things in this world that are expensive. Making snide remarks about them will not solve the problem, and it won't provide you any insight to the issue. If you devoted your energy to learning about the processes that underly the issues, I think we'll all be better off.
I'm sure the x86 transition will give Apple's notebooks the bump they need. I bought my iBook about a year or so ago... 12", 800MHz. At the time, there were not any PC notebooks that came close in that form factor and price. Any of the "thin & light" PC notebooks were all much more expensive. However, over the past six or seven months, $1000 PC notebooks that do fall into that same form factor have been popping up (Averatec, Sharp, Dell). The iBook is no longer the value it used to be (and this latest round of updates didn't help much). I expect Apple to come out with some pretty impressive offerings after the switch over to x86. I'm hoping they surprise us, like they so often do, by releasing x86 machines before anyone expects it.
You've become really cantankerous. We get the point that you think macs are too expensive, and have some interest in AMD. But it's very tiresome to hear it again and again, especially since the whiners really have no idea. If you have a problem, don't whine, just don't buy a mac.
There are a lot of things in this world that are expensive. Making snide remarks about them will not solve the problem, and it won't provide you any insight to the issue. If you devoted your energy to learning about the processes that underly the issues, I think we'll all be better off.
Well, since the introduction of the Mighty Mouse, I've really been wondering, What else is Apple completely oblivious to?
Well, since the introduction of the Mighty Mouse, I've really been wondering, What else is Apple completely oblivious to?
probably nothing. apple is a big company, and certainly does market research. You and I are completely oblivious to this research as well as their plans that go along with this research.
Bronxite: You may find that "retarded", but my mom and dad do not understand what you may understand about hardware and software. They only see the difference in price, and relatives say: "why on Earth would you spend twice as much money on that Apple, if the Aspire has X and Y?".
You dont have to explain it to them. By the time someone gets to the age of 55 they should understand the following saying:
"You get what you pay for."
If they trust your advice when they are shopping for a machine then they will trust you when you roll that out for them.
Of course, money is not just something that you produce on demand, so cost is a factor in making purchasing decisions. I dont berate anyone for buying a PC because that was what they could afford, or for other, _real_ reasons. But if someone just buys something because it is cheaper then they deserve the results. Everyone here has bought something because it was cheaper and had it fall apart I bought a $3 hammer once, and after about 10 strikes the handle bent clean in half. But I achieved the job I needed to do, and threw it away.
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End of discussion. Anybody who argues is lying to themselves.
Originally posted by Placebo
Apple laptops suck in comparison to similarly priced, or even a thousand dollars less, PC laptops.
End of discussion. Anybody who argues is lying to themselves.
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mid range dell at 1659 vs ibook 1.42 512 ram super drive mac os x ha what a good laugh go and buy the dell and have fun de bugging it ha ha
Originally posted by Placebo
Apple laptops suck in comparison to similarly priced, or even a thousand dollars less, PC laptops.
End of discussion. Anybody who argues is lying to themselves.
The relative PC/Mac pricing issue is irrelevant. Either you value an Apple box and OS X for the price they are sold, or you don't. If you do, you pay the price willingly. If you don't, vote with your pocketbook and buy something else. That's all there is to it.
Either way the bitching is just so much useless noise. Apple won't ever give a crap about the words, they will give a crap if the marketshare goes down. Notice which direction that has actually been headed lately??? I think that shows you have the wrong tree to bark at.
Originally posted by Bretbenz
If you think about it... you are really paying for the quality operating system. It doesn't really matter if Acer ships a 12GHz processor in five years (yeah right), if the code is sloppy - and let's face it... Windows XP's code is 50 million lines, while OSX is like 10 million - then all that sloppy code will waste processor clockcycles. I am amazed at how well OS X performs on old 233MHz iMacs when Windows 2000 crawls on my AMD 850MHz. The OS is the heart of the computer, and it's a strong, healthy heart.
I think that when the Intel transition starts going strong and software developers have their titles over to x86, the best route will be to install OS X on a PC.
And if it's illegal?
So's charging $2500 for a laptop with a sub-2GHz processor.
Originally posted by Placebo
I think that when the Intel transition starts going strong and software developers have their titles over to x86, the best route will be to install OS X on a PC.
And if it's illegal?
So's charging $2500 for a laptop with a sub-2GHz processor.
You've become really cantankerous. We get the point that you think macs are too expensive, and have some interest in AMD. But it's very tiresome to hear it again and again, especially since the whiners really have no idea. If you have a problem, don't whine, just don't buy a mac.
There are a lot of things in this world that are expensive. Making snide remarks about them will not solve the problem, and it won't provide you any insight to the issue. If you devoted your energy to learning about the processes that underly the issues, I think we'll all be better off.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
You've become really cantankerous. We get the point that you think macs are too expensive, and have some interest in AMD. But it's very tiresome to hear it again and again, especially since the whiners really have no idea. If you have a problem, don't whine, just don't buy a mac.
There are a lot of things in this world that are expensive. Making snide remarks about them will not solve the problem, and it won't provide you any insight to the issue. If you devoted your energy to learning about the processes that underly the issues, I think we'll all be better off.
Well, since the introduction of the Mighty Mouse, I've really been wondering, What else is Apple completely oblivious to?
Originally posted by Placebo
Well, since the introduction of the Mighty Mouse, I've really been wondering, What else is Apple completely oblivious to?
probably nothing. apple is a big company, and certainly does market research. You and I are completely oblivious to this research as well as their plans that go along with this research.
Originally posted by dacloo
Bronxite: You may find that "retarded", but my mom and dad do not understand what you may understand about hardware and software. They only see the difference in price, and relatives say: "why on Earth would you spend twice as much money on that Apple, if the Aspire has X and Y?".
You dont have to explain it to them. By the time someone gets to the age of 55 they should understand the following saying:
"You get what you pay for."
If they trust your advice when they are shopping for a machine then they will trust you when you roll that out for them.
Of course, money is not just something that you produce on demand, so cost is a factor in making purchasing decisions. I dont berate anyone for buying a PC because that was what they could afford, or for other, _real_ reasons. But if someone just buys something because it is cheaper then they deserve the results. Everyone here has bought something because it was cheaper and had it fall apart