That's good. I have the logitech bluetooth headphones for the iPod, but I would love to see Apple intergrate some form of wireless technology in, granted battery life does not suffer. Maybe the upcoming wireless usb standard being developed.
Well, announcing to the world that you are trying to do business with Apple and leaking what a possible product feature will be, is an absolute GUARANTEE that you either a) are not doing any business with Apple whatsoever, and b) you never will.
I suspect this is just some idiot CEO's attempt to drum up some business from Apple's competitors. Leak you tried to sell to Apple which gets Apple's competitors to call you.
This is just a sleazy sales technique. Nothing more.
You are so absolutely right. Cigar for you sir.
I can even picture Steve's face when he read this news item... not pretty.
i recently got a bluetooth headphone form motorola...and it's sort of a hazzle because it needs to be paired....i use it for my pw and for my phone and i have to make a quick configuration...apple would have to do something easier.
the best motorola headset can hold up to 8 hours talk time and about 120 standby. so take the mic out and you probably get 10-12 hrs i gues....thats right about the same amount for the ipod. the diference is the charging. once they do it it will porbably not come standard, because that is something to profit from. i would do it as to small headsets, conected by a small thin rope, behind the head. so that you son't loose them.
i would only put the BT in the higher end models so that you don't compromise space in the nano/shuffle
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
8)
Well Jimbo, as I think I almost understood him, sort of. So, is he saying that we should have a Bluetooth headphone that recharges seperately from the iPod? Or what?
Because those exist now. There are at least three. I'm not sure if they are made FOR the iPod though. Read it over a month or more ago.
Bluetooth always has to be paired. I'm not sure if he understood that or thinks it's just for that device. I don't see the problem with charging. That would be no different than it is now.
If, as I THINK he's saying, a headphone for built-in Bluetooth, that's idle speculation until Apple produces one WITH Bluetooth.
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
hmmm.... an iPod that uses some sort of wireless technology to stream music to your stereo, other parts of the house, or to your wireless headphone, that uses the same wireless technology to synchronise Tunes, contacts and calendar info quickly and seamlessly with your mac or windows or linux(?!!!) pc? which recharges easily and has long battery life?
most definitely. this is the next step in the iPod evolution, besides a PSP-size/quality screen for watching videos
in a sleeker, tougher iPod-mini-esque form factor BRING IT ON, APPLE, BRING IT MATE. BRING IT.
the only problem is that current 802.11g and bluetooth flavours to not offer these sort of benefits just yet.... what new wireless technology could apple use??
how awesome also would it be for said iPod Video where you can either watch it on the go, or just hook it up easily to your tv to watch standard definition... said videos sync and previewed and organised seamlessly using iTunes with Video
fuck intel's viiv** and M$ media center bullshit. fuck a standalone divx-player device thingy. an iPod Video would be way better. way..
**i do hold out hope that an intel chip of some sort
[as demonstrated at intel idf playing h.264 with just something like a 1ghz xscale(?) IIRC]
might make the iPod WirelessMedia 60gb and 80gb a reality in the near future.
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
hmmm.... an iPod that uses some sort of wireless technology to stream music to your stereo, other parts of the house, or to your wireless headphone, that uses the same wireless technology to synchronise Tunes, contacts and calendar info quickly and seamlessly with your mac or windows or linux(?!!!) pc? which recharges easily and has long battery life?
most definitely. this is the next step in the iPod evolution, besides a PSP-size/quality screen for watching videos
in a sleeker, tougher iPod-mini-esque form factor BRING IT ON, APPLE, BRING IT MATE. BRING IT.
the only problem is that current 802.11g and bluetooth flavours to not offer these sort of benefits just yet.... what new wireless technology could apple use??
I disagree the 'g' standard is more than adequate to stream music to a Hi Fi
proof in this is the Airport Express connected to a Hi Fi.
54mb band width is sufficent to stream music.
Just think if you can stream music by iPod then If you have a computer which already has Airport Express or equivalant then you could put songs on the ipod from your computer! or vice versa also sync with iPhoto etc
all of a sudden you have a mini PDA!!
Possibilities are endless. Just need to have good battery life.
fair enough. but would 802.11g handle wireless streaming to headphones* alright? and yeah, battery life??
as in the 802.11g transmitter/receiver would have to be in tha wireless headphone set itself as well as the iPod....
maybe its too much at this stage to hope for a "one size fits all" wireless solution. 'round the corner maybe, in santa steve's goody bag. christmas 2006. i'll try to be a good boy by then......
fair enough. but would 802.11g handle wireless streaming to headphones* alright? and yeah, battery life??
as in the 802.11g transmitter/receiver would have to be in tha wireless headphone set itself as well as the iPod....
maybe its too much at this stage to hope for a "one size fits all" wireless solution. 'round the corner maybe, in santa steve's goody bag. christmas 2006. i'll try to be a good boy by then......
WiFi is crazy overkill for audio. Even 11Mbs is overkill. Even USB 1.1 or Bluetooth 1.2 is enough for full fidelity stereo.
And sufficient for streaming "DVD quality" MPEG-2 video with DTS audio to EyeHome.
Now you're talking about something else. video is always much more bandwidth intensive. It's also much more sensitive to interference. Whenever I am at a Sony press conferance where they show their TV Anywhere, it suffers from interference. So have every other demo from Samsung, Pioneer, HP, and the others I've seen.
Sure, but I don't understand how your response relates to my agreeing with jimbo123's comments.
It wasn't intended to. I was agreeing with your contention, and simply noting that your statement changed the area that the last few posts had gone into. Then I brought up some problems with wireless video.
It wasn't intended to. I was agreeing with your contention, and simply noting that your statement changed the area that the last few posts had gone into. Then I brought up some problems with wireless video.
Was that a problem?
Do you know what the cause of the interference usually is?
Comments
Originally posted by European guy
Let's get crazy....
Uh yeah. I think we're starting to overflow our cups.
Welll, why not 3D projected in space in front or above?
Originally posted by BWhaler
Well, announcing to the world that you are trying to do business with Apple and leaking what a possible product feature will be, is an absolute GUARANTEE that you either a) are not doing any business with Apple whatsoever, and b) you never will.
I suspect this is just some idiot CEO's attempt to drum up some business from Apple's competitors. Leak you tried to sell to Apple which gets Apple's competitors to call you.
This is just a sleazy sales technique. Nothing more.
You are so absolutely right. Cigar for you sir.
I can even picture Steve's face when he read this news item... not pretty.
Originally posted by sunilraman
my post made no sense whatsoever upon a quick re-reading. move along...nothing to see here.
It's ok, we're used to it.
Originally posted by hkbaq
great mock up.....
----------------------------------------------------
guys...remember: BATTERY......bluetooth probably drains the hell out of the ipod/headphones.
-----------------------------------------------------
one thing to suport the bluetooth deal is that they cahnged all their lines to include bluetooth 2.0
----------------------------------------------------
i recently got a bluetooth headphone form motorola...and it's sort of a hazzle because it needs to be paired....i use it for my pw and for my phone and i have to make a quick configuration...apple would have to do something easier.
--------------------------------------------------------
the best motorola headset can hold up to 8 hours talk time and about 120 standby. so take the mic out and you probably get 10-12 hrs i gues....thats right about the same amount for the ipod. the diference is the charging. once they do it it will porbably not come standard, because that is something to profit from. i would do it as to small headsets, conected by a small thin rope, behind the head. so that you son't loose them.
i would only put the BT in the higher end models so that you don't compromise space in the nano/shuffle
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
8)
Originally posted by jimbo123
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
8)
Well Jimbo, as I think I almost understood him, sort of. So, is he saying that we should have a Bluetooth headphone that recharges seperately from the iPod? Or what?
Because those exist now. There are at least three. I'm not sure if they are made FOR the iPod though. Read it over a month or more ago.
Bluetooth always has to be paired. I'm not sure if he understood that or thinks it's just for that device. I don't see the problem with charging. That would be no different than it is now.
If, as I THINK he's saying, a headphone for built-in Bluetooth, that's idle speculation until Apple produces one WITH Bluetooth.
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
hmmm.... an iPod that uses some sort of wireless technology to stream music to your stereo, other parts of the house, or to your wireless headphone, that uses the same wireless technology to synchronise Tunes, contacts and calendar info quickly and seamlessly with your mac or windows or linux(?!!!) pc? which recharges easily and has long battery life?
most definitely. this is the next step in the iPod evolution, besides a PSP-size/quality screen for watching videos
in a sleeker, tougher iPod-mini-esque form factor
the only problem is that current 802.11g and bluetooth flavours to not offer these sort of benefits just yet....
fuck intel's viiv** and M$ media center bullshit. fuck a standalone divx-player device thingy. an iPod Video would be way better. way..
**i do hold out hope that an intel chip of some sort
[as demonstrated at intel idf playing h.264 with just something like a 1ghz xscale(?) IIRC]
might make the iPod WirelessMedia 60gb and 80gb a reality in the near future.
Originally posted by sunilraman
Originally posted by jimbo123
Something like that would be superb. Does everyone agree this should be the way foward?
hmmm.... an iPod that uses some sort of wireless technology to stream music to your stereo, other parts of the house, or to your wireless headphone, that uses the same wireless technology to synchronise Tunes, contacts and calendar info quickly and seamlessly with your mac or windows or linux(?!!!) pc? which recharges easily and has long battery life?
most definitely. this is the next step in the iPod evolution, besides a PSP-size/quality screen for watching videos
in a sleeker, tougher iPod-mini-esque form factor
the only problem is that current 802.11g and bluetooth flavours to not offer these sort of benefits just yet....
I disagree the 'g' standard is more than adequate to stream music to a Hi Fi
proof in this is the Airport Express connected to a Hi Fi.
54mb band width is sufficent to stream music.
Just think if you can stream music by iPod then If you have a computer which already has Airport Express or equivalant then you could put songs on the ipod from your computer! or vice versa also sync with iPhoto etc
all of a sudden you have a mini PDA!!
Possibilities are endless. Just need to have good battery life.
as in the 802.11g transmitter/receiver would have to be in tha wireless headphone set itself as well as the iPod....
maybe its too much at this stage to hope for a "one size fits all" wireless solution. 'round the corner maybe, in santa steve's goody bag. christmas 2006. i'll try to be a good boy by then......
Originally posted by sunilraman
fair enough. but would 802.11g handle wireless streaming to headphones* alright? and yeah, battery life??
as in the 802.11g transmitter/receiver would have to be in tha wireless headphone set itself as well as the iPod....
maybe its too much at this stage to hope for a "one size fits all" wireless solution. 'round the corner maybe, in santa steve's goody bag. christmas 2006. i'll try to be a good boy by then......
WiFi is crazy overkill for audio. Even 11Mbs is overkill. Even USB 1.1 or Bluetooth 1.2 is enough for full fidelity stereo.
Originally posted by melgross
WiFi is crazy overkill for audio. Even 11Mbs is overkill. Even USB 1.1 or Bluetooth 1.2 is enough for full fidelity stereo.
But 'g' is Apple standard anyway. And the range is better than blue tooth.
Also would WiFi data rate not be quicker than Blue Tooth..
So maybe ditch the Bluetoth headphones and concentrate on transmitting music
over a wirless network.
Originally posted by jimbo123
But 'g' is Apple standard anyway. And the range is better than blue tooth.
Also would WiFi data rate not be quicker than Blue Tooth..
So maybe ditch the Bluetoth headphones and concentrate on transmitting music
over a wirless network.
But it doesn't matter. Any rates higher than what is needed is wasted.
Anyway, Apple is standardizing on Bluetooth 2.
http://www.radio-electronics.com/inf...etooth_edr.php
Originally posted by jimbo123
I disagree the 'g' standard is more than adequate to stream music to a Hi Fi
proof in this is the Airport Express connected to a Hi Fi.
54mb band width is sufficent to stream music.
And sufficient for streaming "DVD quality" MPEG-2 video with DTS audio to EyeHome.
Originally posted by sjk
And sufficient for streaming "DVD quality" MPEG-2 video with DTS audio to EyeHome.
Now you're talking about something else. video is always much more bandwidth intensive. It's also much more sensitive to interference. Whenever I am at a Sony press conferance where they show their TV Anywhere, it suffers from interference. So have every other demo from Samsung, Pioneer, HP, and the others I've seen.
Originally posted by sjk
Sure, but I don't understand how your response relates to my agreeing with jimbo123's comments.
It wasn't intended to. I was agreeing with your contention, and simply noting that your statement changed the area that the last few posts had gone into. Then I brought up some problems with wireless video.
Was that a problem?
Originally posted by melgross
It wasn't intended to. I was agreeing with your contention, and simply noting that your statement changed the area that the last few posts had gone into. Then I brought up some problems with wireless video.
Was that a problem?
Do you know what the cause of the interference usually is?