Mostly because we are a bunch of Arrogant Bastard Mac-lovers...
And since those are the majority of folks who even bother seeing what comes out from Apple in the new year, and the IMac & PowerBook are their best selling items...
Those would be the items which just might sell the most to the Faithful Masses, also known as "Beta Testers"...
Introducing new products has been the main purpose of MWSF for many years. At this year's MWSF, for instance, the Mac mini (new), iWork '05 (new), iLife '05 (upgrade), and the iPod shuffle (new) were introduced. MWSF '04 saw the introduction of the iPod mini, amongst other things. MWSF '03 introduced to us the 12- and 17-inch PowerBooks. The iMac G4 came at MWSF '02.
The list goes on.
Your logic assumes that Apple's currently line-up is not good enough for enough customers to buy it. It is. Apple revenues are higher than Apple, and not just so in the iPod space. Macintosh revenues have been going up and away lately. They introduced several minor upgrades to the Macintosh line this fall in order to bump up holiday sales, but that's it -- more than enough people will buy them. Once holiday season is over, they can introduce new products for the next season.
Clarification: They Introduce in January MacWorld and then they release in Mid-to-Late March the actual Products and often it rolls into April.
Rubbish. Games have never been central to Apple sales. These will be the first MacIntels; sales will not be a problem.
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
Marketing iTunes as a brand name with little reference to Apple.Inc is a defensive legal tactic to thwart Apple Record's proposition it suffers harm by confusion with a computer company.
We've been talking (and mostly agreeing) that PB's won't come until April - May, at the earliest. Later ,if Apple decides to go for 64 bit Merom first.
The iMac wasn't even in the talking points!
Now this seems logical?
The Mini, which seems to be a good idea for first, and possibly January, and reported in several place as being first, is now relegated to spring?
Didn't we just have a discussion about just that?
Maybe we should wait a bit on this.
The other thing that bothers me about it is that several places have reported totally new enclosures, not just thinner.
Even our friend Enderly said that Apple's new x86 designs were going to blow people away.
Maybe you can help out. Does Apple TYPICALLY introduce new hardware at this time? Just curious. I don't recall major announcements happening in January. Apple is smarter than that.
I've planned to get a Quad in January. The cost of this will be over $4,000 with the 7800, 2 GB starter RAM, and any taxes etc.
This would be fine if a new x86 model comes out in late 2007.
But, if one is announced in, say, September, that would be a problem.
When I had my lab, I would be ordering 6 Quads in January. In business, you get what you need when you can get it, so the early release wouldn't bother me.
But now, it's for myself. I wonder what those who just got theirs are thinking.
This is the problem with Apple just dropping things like this on us. It's tough to make plans.
I was not trolling, merely bringing his suggestion from the abstract in to the concrete, to allow people to see what he was really saying.
What he was saying is that Apple won't stop selling a product just because it lacks the support of several minor third parties. There will be games for Intel Macs soon enough. There will be pro apps soon enough. Neither Apple selling nor customers buying Intel-based Macs in January is a bad decision.
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
How about a sticker for Windows PCs that reads "Warning: in less than 24 hours this computer will be infested with viruses, worms, trojans and malware". Like you said, why not be truthful?
How about a sticker for Windows PCs that reads "Warning: in less than 24 hours this computer will be infested with viruses, worms, trojans and malware". Like you said, why not be truthful?
This transition will have some rough edges for both Apple and users--but it will be well worth it to everyone.
Even Apple may not yet know the final transition schedule, so we shouldn't be surprised at shifting rumors.
And the term "consumer Mac" could mean different things. Some would say that means ONLY the iBook and Mac Mini. Others would say it means everything except the Xserve.
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Originally posted by SpamSandwich
Why are people so touchy on these boards? 8)
Mostly because we are a bunch of Arrogant Bastard Mac-lovers...
And since those are the majority of folks who even bother seeing what comes out from Apple in the new year, and the IMac & PowerBook are their best selling items...
Those would be the items which just might sell the most to the Faithful Masses, also known as "Beta Testers"...
;^p
Thats were smilies comes into play
Originally posted by ascii
If Apple wants to release Intel Macs as early as January, they need to send an army of engineers over to the game companies to help them.
Rubbish. Games have never been central to Apple sales. These will be the first MacIntels; sales will not be a problem.
Originally posted by Chucker
Introducing new products has been the main purpose of MWSF for many years. At this year's MWSF, for instance, the Mac mini (new), iWork '05 (new), iLife '05 (upgrade), and the iPod shuffle (new) were introduced. MWSF '04 saw the introduction of the iPod mini, amongst other things. MWSF '03 introduced to us the 12- and 17-inch PowerBooks. The iMac G4 came at MWSF '02.
The list goes on.
Your logic assumes that Apple's currently line-up is not good enough for enough customers to buy it. It is. Apple revenues are higher than Apple, and not just so in the iPod space. Macintosh revenues have been going up and away lately. They introduced several minor upgrades to the Macintosh line this fall in order to bump up holiday sales, but that's it -- more than enough people will buy them. Once holiday season is over, they can introduce new products for the next season.
Clarification: They Introduce in January MacWorld and then they release in Mid-to-Late March the actual Products and often it rolls into April.
Originally posted by mdriftmeyer
Clarification: They Introduce in January MacWorld and then they release in Mid-to-Late March the actual Products and often it rolls into April.
Sometimes, not always.
Originally posted by vinney57
Rubbish. Games have never been central to Apple sales. These will be the first MacIntels; sales will not be a problem.
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
Originally posted by ascii
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
Nice troll.
Originally posted by Chucker
Nice troll.
I was not trolling, merely bringing his suggestion from the abstract in to the concrete, to allow people to see what he was really saying.
It seems to me that when he called my post "rubbish" - that was a troll.
We've been talking (and mostly agreeing) that PB's won't come until April - May, at the earliest. Later ,if Apple decides to go for 64 bit Merom first.
The iMac wasn't even in the talking points!
Now this seems logical?
The Mini, which seems to be a good idea for first, and possibly January, and reported in several place as being first, is now relegated to spring?
Didn't we just have a discussion about just that?
Maybe we should wait a bit on this.
The other thing that bothers me about it is that several places have reported totally new enclosures, not just thinner.
Even our friend Enderly said that Apple's new x86 designs were going to blow people away.
And you know about him!
And I agree with Chucker -- TROLL!!
Originally posted by SpamSandwich
Maybe you can help out. Does Apple TYPICALLY introduce new hardware at this time? Just curious. I don't recall major announcements happening in January. Apple is smarter than that.
I've planned to get a Quad in January. The cost of this will be over $4,000 with the 7800, 2 GB starter RAM, and any taxes etc.
This would be fine if a new x86 model comes out in late 2007.
But, if one is announced in, say, September, that would be a problem.
When I had my lab, I would be ordering 6 Quads in January. In business, you get what you need when you can get it, so the early release wouldn't bother me.
But now, it's for myself. I wonder what those who just got theirs are thinking.
This is the problem with Apple just dropping things like this on us. It's tough to make plans.
Originally posted by ascii
I was not trolling, merely bringing his suggestion from the abstract in to the concrete, to allow people to see what he was really saying.
What he was saying is that Apple won't stop selling a product just because it lacks the support of several minor third parties. There will be games for Intel Macs soon enough. There will be pro apps soon enough. Neither Apple selling nor customers buying Intel-based Macs in January is a bad decision.
Originally posted by ascii
Oh well, in that case it won't hurt to put a sign next to the computer says "Warning: there are no games for this computer." It's the truth, and since it won't effect sales, why not be truthful?
How about a sticker for Windows PCs that reads "Warning: in less than 24 hours this computer will be infested with viruses, worms, trojans and malware". Like you said, why not be truthful?
Originally posted by 1984
How about a sticker for Windows PCs that reads "Warning: in less than 24 hours this computer will be infested with viruses, worms, trojans and malware". Like you said, why not be truthful?
There's such a thing as TOO much truth!
Even Apple may not yet know the final transition schedule, so we shouldn't be surprised at shifting rumors.
And the term "consumer Mac" could mean different things. Some would say that means ONLY the iBook and Mac Mini. Others would say it means everything except the Xserve.
Neither Apple selling nor customers buying Intel-based Macs in January is a bad decision.
Well we'll have to agree to disagree I guess. I think they should wait until there's more software.