I believe that Apple has thought along these lines since the beginning.
It's a matter of technology catching up with the ideas they have.
I also think that the 5G would make a good game machine. The scrollwheel does a good job as a controller. The cpu is decoding H.264 and MPEG 4, so it's powerful enough, and the screen is big enough, with enough colors.
Some say don't do it, but I say why not? All it needs is to put these under the "games" category. It wouldn't add any complexity to any other usage.
The menu allows the machine to serve different masters without making it more difficult to use.
That's a good idea they could also sell simple nes and super nes style game on itunes for like a dollar each, I'd love to play some tetris or bejewled on my ipod using the clickwheels 4 directional buttons to control the game. Come in handly when I'm out and waiting for someone or on a subway or something.
Now if I could play WHILE listing to music that be incredible. I don't need high tech games just simple time wasting ones.
I would think that providing iTunes for linux would simply increase appreciation for Apple.
Anyone wishing to try or to use linux will do so. I think it is a good thing to have relation with the open source/linux culture. Yes, it provides competition for Apple, but a lot of unix/linux people are positively minded toward the Mac.
These two job announcements are the best news since, well the Mac Mini!
This means serious competition and the iPod team is being given their head to innovate.
I think together it means the iPod and iBox (or whatever the media center becomes) will continue to be "cross platform" and create that bridge for content providers and 3rd parties to develop products for ONE platform that plays nice with both PC's and Macs.
Apple will try to own the middle ware that adapts content and 3rd parties to a great experience and cool design that is relatively platform agnostic. The need for deciding on PC vs. Mac becomes less important.
Ah, you may say this is bad for the Mac, then. Au contrair(?). It means except for games, the vast unwashed masses will see the PC and Mac as relative equals and slowly evolve to the Mac. In the OS wars there will be no revolution, only evolution and the Mac has the best DNA.
I think this is good for Apple. It's just the question about Linux that's a possible problem.
You're probably right. But I keep seeing rumors that Apple will be doing just that. If Apple thinks of it as just another codec to support in Pro, it might happen. It might give more people the excuse to pay Apple the 30 bucks. So, who knows?
"The iPod Application team is looking for an engineer to create and develop complex desktop application software and the Windows system building blocks for iPod," Apple said. "This is a unique opportunity to join a small, smart, coveted, successful team and work in a fast paced environment."
Job responsibilities include "implementing new features in existing applications as well as developing new complex applications, as well as libraries to install and maintain software updates on iPod."
Is it me or are those "new complex applications" not applications running on an iPod (games and PDA functionality as some suggest), but rather *new iPod related PC apps*?
I would think that providing iTunes for linux would simply increase appreciation for Apple.
Anyone wishing to try or to use linux will do so. I think it is a good thing to have relation with the open source/linux culture. Yes, it provides competition for Apple, but a lot of unix/linux people are positively minded toward the Mac.
It would, but how would that help Apple? It could help to expand Linux's reach because that would one less reason for someone to get OS X rather than Linux.
Remember that these people have a different philosophy than either PC or Mac users. We are used to paying (I hope) for software, except for freeware and those who won't cough up for shareware.
But Linux users are not. The idea of "free" is a major factor in their using it in the first place, other than the geek bragging rights. I've been told that Mac's are too expensive (yeah, even the Mini, which has no slots). You have to pay for a new version of the OS every 12 to 18 months, etc.
Some have moved over, and just use terminal, but then they also use X11 for the free software. Apple needs people to buy their own, and third party software to keep the ecology healthy.
Is it me or are those "new complex applications" not applications running on an iPod (games and PDA functionality as some suggest), but rather *new iPod related PC apps*?
What would "new iPod related PC apps" mean, other than apps for use with an iPod?
What would "new iPod related PC apps" mean, other than apps for use with an iPod?
I think what he was originally saying was that the apps in development are PC apps, running on Windows. And I think he was stating this because of some of the other chatter which seemed to imply all these wonderful new games and PDA functions being added to the ipod itself.
So, basically, we're talking new windows apps (like maybe a new app to do photo updates through, rather than the stupidity of uploading photos with itunes, the music app. And the same with contacts. And maybe they're want to work on one of those fancy new "check-in at the airport with the ipod" kind of apps!
I think what he was originally saying was that the apps in development are PC apps, running on Windows. And I think he was stating this because of some of the other chatter which seemed to imply all these wonderful new games and PDA functions being added to the ipod itself.
So, basically, we're talking new windows apps (like maybe a new app to do photo updates through, rather than the stupidity of uploading photos with itunes, the music app. And the same with contacts. And maybe they're want to work on one of those fancy new "check-in at the airport with the ipod" kind of apps!
It's possible. But the article did say that this was a call for someone to work on Windows iPod division essentially.
"The iPod Application team is looking for an engineer to create and develop complex desktop application software and the Windows system building blocks for iPod,"
I think it means they are developing new apps to run on iPods and interface with the pc, but they need windows engineers 'cause they already got the Mac engineers.
About Linux, how would Apple's relationship with them change after the conversion to Intel?
You're probably right. But I keep seeing rumors that Apple will be doing just that. If Apple thinks of it as just another codec to support in Pro, it might happen. It might give more people the excuse to pay Apple the 30 bucks. So, who knows?
DivX (4.0 and newer) and XviD are standard MPEG-4. They work in QuickTime just fine through QuickTime's MPEG-4 codec.
IF, that is, the file uses a standard CONTAINER. I.e., not AVI.
There's far too many idiots that encode in DivX or XviD, then use AVI and some random fourcc to encapsulate.
I think it means they are developing new apps to run on iPods and interface with the pc, but they need windows engineers 'cause they already got the Mac engineers.
About Linux, how would Apple's relationship with them change after the conversion to Intel?
Instead of a couple of Distro's like Yellow Dog, there will be hundreds (yup, there are that many) that can install on the machine. Assuming that dual booting is possible, it will be easy. Far more Linux software will be available because it won't have to be converted from x86 to PPC.
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Originally posted by starwxrwx
I hope updates to Front Row will improve QuickTime out-of-the-box, to handle divx, xvid etc of all varieties
I use VLC for all my videos... much better
Originally posted by melgross
I believe that Apple has thought along these lines since the beginning.
It's a matter of technology catching up with the ideas they have.
I also think that the 5G would make a good game machine. The scrollwheel does a good job as a controller. The cpu is decoding H.264 and MPEG 4, so it's powerful enough, and the screen is big enough, with enough colors.
Some say don't do it, but I say why not? All it needs is to put these under the "games" category. It wouldn't add any complexity to any other usage.
The menu allows the machine to serve different masters without making it more difficult to use.
That's a good idea they could also sell simple nes and super nes style game on itunes for like a dollar each, I'd love to play some tetris or bejewled on my ipod using the clickwheels 4 directional buttons to control the game. Come in handly when I'm out and waiting for someone or on a subway or something.
Now if I could play WHILE listing to music that be incredible. I don't need high tech games just simple time wasting ones.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
...for Apple. Linux is a competitor to OS X,
I would think that providing iTunes for linux would simply increase appreciation for Apple.
Anyone wishing to try or to use linux will do so. I think it is a good thing to have relation with the open source/linux culture. Yes, it provides competition for Apple, but a lot of unix/linux people are positively minded toward the Mac.
Originally posted by MacGregor
These two job announcements are the best news since, well the Mac Mini!
This means serious competition and the iPod team is being given their head to innovate.
I think together it means the iPod and iBox (or whatever the media center becomes) will continue to be "cross platform" and create that bridge for content providers and 3rd parties to develop products for ONE platform that plays nice with both PC's and Macs.
Apple will try to own the middle ware that adapts content and 3rd parties to a great experience and cool design that is relatively platform agnostic. The need for deciding on PC vs. Mac becomes less important.
Ah, you may say this is bad for the Mac, then. Au contrair(?). It means except for games, the vast unwashed masses will see the PC and Mac as relative equals and slowly evolve to the Mac. In the OS wars there will be no revolution, only evolution and the Mac has the best DNA.
I think this is good for Apple. It's just the question about Linux that's a possible problem.
Originally posted by Chucker
Not gonna happen.
You're probably right. But I keep seeing rumors that Apple will be doing just that. If Apple thinks of it as just another codec to support in Pro, it might happen. It might give more people the excuse to pay Apple the 30 bucks. So, who knows?
"The iPod Application team is looking for an engineer to create and develop complex desktop application software and the Windows system building blocks for iPod," Apple said. "This is a unique opportunity to join a small, smart, coveted, successful team and work in a fast paced environment."
Job responsibilities include "implementing new features in existing applications as well as developing new complex applications, as well as libraries to install and maintain software updates on iPod."
Is it me or are those "new complex applications" not applications running on an iPod (games and PDA functionality as some suggest), but rather *new iPod related PC apps*?
Originally posted by NordicMan
I would think that providing iTunes for linux would simply increase appreciation for Apple.
Anyone wishing to try or to use linux will do so. I think it is a good thing to have relation with the open source/linux culture. Yes, it provides competition for Apple, but a lot of unix/linux people are positively minded toward the Mac.
It would, but how would that help Apple? It could help to expand Linux's reach because that would one less reason for someone to get OS X rather than Linux.
Remember that these people have a different philosophy than either PC or Mac users. We are used to paying (I hope) for software, except for freeware and those who won't cough up for shareware.
But Linux users are not. The idea of "free" is a major factor in their using it in the first place, other than the geek bragging rights. I've been told that Mac's are too expensive (yeah, even the Mini, which has no slots). You have to pay for a new version of the OS every 12 to 18 months, etc.
Some have moved over, and just use terminal, but then they also use X11 for the free software. Apple needs people to buy their own, and third party software to keep the ecology healthy.
Originally posted by Doxxic
Is it me or are those "new complex applications" not applications running on an iPod (games and PDA functionality as some suggest), but rather *new iPod related PC apps*?
What would "new iPod related PC apps" mean, other than apps for use with an iPod?
Originally posted by melgross
What would "new iPod related PC apps" mean, other than apps for use with an iPod?
I think what he was originally saying was that the apps in development are PC apps, running on Windows. And I think he was stating this because of some of the other chatter which seemed to imply all these wonderful new games and PDA functions being added to the ipod itself.
So, basically, we're talking new windows apps (like maybe a new app to do photo updates through, rather than the stupidity of uploading photos with itunes, the music app. And the same with contacts. And maybe they're want to work on one of those fancy new "check-in at the airport with the ipod" kind of apps!
Originally posted by Louzer
fancy new "check-in at the airport with the ipod" kind of apps!
Originally posted by Louzer
I think what he was originally saying was that the apps in development are PC apps, running on Windows. And I think he was stating this because of some of the other chatter which seemed to imply all these wonderful new games and PDA functions being added to the ipod itself.
So, basically, we're talking new windows apps (like maybe a new app to do photo updates through, rather than the stupidity of uploading photos with itunes, the music app. And the same with contacts. And maybe they're want to work on one of those fancy new "check-in at the airport with the ipod" kind of apps!
It's possible. But the article did say that this was a call for someone to work on Windows iPod division essentially.
"The iPod Application team is looking for an engineer to create and develop complex desktop application software and the Windows system building blocks for iPod,"
Which I said to work "with" the iPod.
About Linux, how would Apple's relationship with them change after the conversion to Intel?
Originally posted by melgross
You're probably right. But I keep seeing rumors that Apple will be doing just that. If Apple thinks of it as just another codec to support in Pro, it might happen. It might give more people the excuse to pay Apple the 30 bucks. So, who knows?
DivX (4.0 and newer) and XviD are standard MPEG-4. They work in QuickTime just fine through QuickTime's MPEG-4 codec.
IF, that is, the file uses a standard CONTAINER. I.e., not AVI.
There's far too many idiots that encode in DivX or XviD, then use AVI and some random fourcc to encapsulate.
Originally posted by MacGregor
I think it means they are developing new apps to run on iPods and interface with the pc, but they need windows engineers 'cause they already got the Mac engineers.
About Linux, how would Apple's relationship with them change after the conversion to Intel?
Instead of a couple of Distro's like Yellow Dog, there will be hundreds (yup, there are that many) that can install on the machine. Assuming that dual booting is possible, it will be easy. Far more Linux software will be available because it won't have to be converted from x86 to PPC.
Originally posted by Chucker
There's far too many idiots that encode in DivX or XviD, then use AVI and some random fourcc to encapsulate. [/B]
Yeah, I get the shivers every time I see that.