Truth be told all of Dodge new cars (Viper, 300, Magnum, Charger (Neon was discontinued as September)) are built with the exact transmissions as MB and all suspension and brake systems are MB. Exact specs as any MB just larger designs for the larger cars. Don?t believe me check it out for yourself ... Dodge is not American any longer. The only car left in design that still has American influence is the upcoming Challenger, which has SRT-10 6.8 Magnum, 5 speed and rear wheel posi-trac rear axle. MB gave them the freedom to compete against the upcoming release of the all-new Camaro. All this info will be displayed at the Detroit auto show this week.
More truth is that several Chrysler and dodge cars have the same chasis AND MOTORS. This is only true for the C-Class though.
I don't care about Chrysler!! I have a Mazda and there is only 1 (and I care barely say that) source for integration. My stupid Ice>link for my Mazda doesn't even work right!! I paid over $200 for the connection only to have it screw up my Car stereo and work "sometimes"!!!
Call me when you have some REAL news for me Apple. Until then,
(Vain attempt to drag this thread back on topic and away from a car comparing flame-war.)
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
(Vain attempt to drag this thread back on topic and away from a car comparing flame-war.)
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
- Jasen.
For Mercedes is not open, from what the guys on the mb forums have tinkered with.
I'm pretty annoyed that all of these car kits cost so much. $175 plus installation is pretty absurd, even $175 including installation is a bit much, especially for the low quality that I've heard. It's a shame that factory or dealer car audio accessories cost more and are often lower quality than third party.
I'd rather spend the money to dump the stock radio and put in one with a 3.5mm jack so it isn't iPod proprietary.
I'm pretty annoyed that all of these car kits cost so much. $175 plus installation is pretty absurd, even $175 including installation is a bit much, especially for the low quality that I've heard. It's a shame that factory or dealer car audio accessories cost more and are often lower quality than third party.
I'd rather spend the money to dump the stock radio and put in one with a 3.5mm jack so it isn't iPod proprietary.
You can get a nice Alpine stereo with iPod and Aux-in inputs. A little more than $175, but beats the pants off even "deluxe" car manufacturer stereos.
YOU ARE ALL LOSERS, YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME DEBATING ABOUT CARS THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN AFFORD. AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, CARS ARE USED FOR GETTING FROM A TO B, NOT FOR EGO WANKING.
Oh well, I'll just have to use the integration deal I got for Christmas.
Although Chrysler isn't marketing it as such, the interface will work with pretty much any Chrysler Radio with a J1850 interface. For the most part, this includes 2002 vehicles and later - though some 2005 and later vehicles use the newer CAN bus, which it is not compatible with.
I've actually installed one of these interfaces in my wife's '97 Caravan along with a 2004 Chrysler RAZ radio using a special harness between the vehicle and the radio.
YOU ARE ALL LOSERS, YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME DEBATING ABOUT CARS THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN AFFORD. AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, CARS ARE USED FOR GETTING FROM A TO B, NOT FOR EGO WANKING.
This is the internet. We can hear you just fine, even though you are all the way across the world.
You don't have to shout. It makes my fingers hurt.
How much would it cost to get a HUD installed in a car? Having a HUD would make scrolling through songs/artists/podcasts/etc a lot easier. I also agree with the poster that says the iPod needs to come out of the glove box. There should be a way to insert the iPod into the stereo, and do not tell me there is no room, because I am old enough to remember 8-track tapes. There could be a one size fits all exterior case that goes into the stereo, but there would be different inserts to hold the different model iPods securely.
With this interface the factory radio supports the type of browsing you describe.
As far as the manufacturers providing a means to plug the iPod into the radio, that's not likely to happen. The development cycle for a car radio is on the order of two years or longer. Since the iPod interface is proprietary, and there's a new version of the iPod every six months or so, no car manufacturer is likely to commit to developing a radio that works only with a single, third party MP3 player. The external interface allows them the flexibility to quickly (relative) add support for another manufacturer's MP3 player, and the glove box plug means they don't have to retool every time Apple comes out with a new case.
(Vain attempt to drag this thread back on topic and away from a car comparing flame-war.)
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
- Jasen.
The connector and the protocol to talk to the iPod are both proprietary and licensed. You can only buy the connector from one source, and only if you are licensed by Apple to do so. The communications protocl to talk to control the iPod is specific to it. One of the advantages the iPod has over other MP3 players is that it has the control interface that no other manufacturer does.
Although Chrysler isn't marketing it as such, the interface will work with pretty much any Chrysler Radio with a J1850 interface. For the most part, this includes 2002 vehicles and later - though some 2005 and later vehicles use the newer CAN bus, which it is not compatible with.
I've actually installed one of these interfaces in my wife's '97 Caravan along with a 2004 Chrysler RAZ radio using a special harness between the vehicle and the radio.
Does it display song title and artist information?
It shows the song name, artist, and album. On the RB1 navigation radio it also shows the playlist or genre playing.
It allows you to browse by Playlist, Artist, Album or Genre. On the RBK radio, which has no text display, it uses voice announcements to help you browse.
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Originally posted by DGNR8
Truth be told all of Dodge new cars (Viper, 300, Magnum, Charger (Neon was discontinued as September)) are built with the exact transmissions as MB and all suspension and brake systems are MB. Exact specs as any MB just larger designs for the larger cars. Don?t believe me check it out for yourself ... Dodge is not American any longer. The only car left in design that still has American influence is the upcoming Challenger, which has SRT-10 6.8 Magnum, 5 speed and rear wheel posi-trac rear axle. MB gave them the freedom to compete against the upcoming release of the all-new Camaro. All this info will be displayed at the Detroit auto show this week.
More truth is that several Chrysler and dodge cars have the same chasis AND MOTORS. This is only true for the C-Class though.
Signed,
Happy C-Class owner...
Call me when you have some REAL news for me Apple. Until then,
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
- Jasen.
Originally posted by jasenj1
(Vain attempt to drag this thread back on topic and away from a car comparing flame-war.)
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
- Jasen.
For Mercedes is not open, from what the guys on the mb forums have tinkered with.
Originally posted by copeland
[B]If I had to choose between a VW and an AUDI, I would most probably take neither.
That's an oxymoron.
If you HAD to choose between the two, you would HAVE to take one or the other.
Originally posted by melgross
That's an oxymoron.
That's what it's called if you don't know what you're doing.
If you do know what you're doing (and I think the original poster did), it's called creative license.
Originally posted by bikertwin
That's what it's called if you don't know what you're doing.
If you do know what you're doing (and I think the original poster did), it's called creative license.
You accused ME of being political!
I'd rather spend the money to dump the stock radio and put in one with a 3.5mm jack so it isn't iPod proprietary.
Originally posted by JeffDM
I'm pretty annoyed that all of these car kits cost so much. $175 plus installation is pretty absurd, even $175 including installation is a bit much, especially for the low quality that I've heard. It's a shame that factory or dealer car audio accessories cost more and are often lower quality than third party.
I'd rather spend the money to dump the stock radio and put in one with a 3.5mm jack so it isn't iPod proprietary.
You can get a nice Alpine stereo with iPod and Aux-in inputs. A little more than $175, but beats the pants off even "deluxe" car manufacturer stereos.
Originally posted by melgross
That's an oxymoron.
If you HAD to choose between the two, you would HAVE to take one or the other.
Some times you are reading it too close; word for word, but ok I could have taken more care in what I write (I know one should always take care).
copeland
Originally posted by kylephoto760
Gah! I drive a 2004 Chrysler!
Oh well, I'll just have to use the integration deal I got for Christmas.
Although Chrysler isn't marketing it as such, the interface will work with pretty much any Chrysler Radio with a J1850 interface. For the most part, this includes 2002 vehicles and later - though some 2005 and later vehicles use the newer CAN bus, which it is not compatible with.
I've actually installed one of these interfaces in my wife's '97 Caravan along with a 2004 Chrysler RAZ radio using a special harness between the vehicle and the radio.
Originally posted by John_Christos@hotmail.com
YOU ARE ALL LOSERS, YOU SPEND ALL YOUR TIME DEBATING ABOUT CARS THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN AFFORD. AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, CARS ARE USED FOR GETTING FROM A TO B, NOT FOR EGO WANKING.
This is the internet. We can hear you just fine, even though you are all the way across the world.
You don't have to shout. It makes my fingers hurt.
Originally posted by troberts
How much would it cost to get a HUD installed in a car? Having a HUD would make scrolling through songs/artists/podcasts/etc a lot easier. I also agree with the poster that says the iPod needs to come out of the glove box. There should be a way to insert the iPod into the stereo, and do not tell me there is no room, because I am old enough to remember 8-track tapes. There could be a one size fits all exterior case that goes into the stereo, but there would be different inserts to hold the different model iPods securely.
With this interface the factory radio supports the type of browsing you describe.
As far as the manufacturers providing a means to plug the iPod into the radio, that's not likely to happen. The development cycle for a car radio is on the order of two years or longer. Since the iPod interface is proprietary, and there's a new version of the iPod every six months or so, no car manufacturer is likely to commit to developing a radio that works only with a single, third party MP3 player. The external interface allows them the flexibility to quickly (relative) add support for another manufacturer's MP3 player, and the glove box plug means they don't have to retool every time Apple comes out with a new case.
Originally posted by jasenj1
(Vain attempt to drag this thread back on topic and away from a car comparing flame-war.)
Is the iPod connector & interface an open standard? "Open" as in other people can use it. Or is it purely proprietary to Apple? For example, could Creative create a player that hooked into one of these iPod connectors?
- Jasen.
The connector and the protocol to talk to the iPod are both proprietary and licensed. You can only buy the connector from one source, and only if you are licensed by Apple to do so. The communications protocl to talk to control the iPod is specific to it. One of the advantages the iPod has over other MP3 players is that it has the control interface that no other manufacturer does.
Originally posted by InterfaceDeveloper
Although Chrysler isn't marketing it as such, the interface will work with pretty much any Chrysler Radio with a J1850 interface. For the most part, this includes 2002 vehicles and later - though some 2005 and later vehicles use the newer CAN bus, which it is not compatible with.
I've actually installed one of these interfaces in my wife's '97 Caravan along with a 2004 Chrysler RAZ radio using a special harness between the vehicle and the radio.
Does it display song title and artist information?
It allows you to browse by Playlist, Artist, Album or Genre. On the RBK radio, which has no text display, it uses voice announcements to help you browse.
Looks like I'll be perusing the local junkyards in hopes of finding a radio that does display song info.