Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
That's what I was going to say.
As for the smaller packaging, it came as quite a shock to me. I was sitting on the couch waiting for the UPS guy... and I see the truck arrive (good thing). But as he walked to the door, I realized the package couldn't be iLife, it was so SMALL (bad thing)! So I sign for it... and open it up, and it IS iLife (good thing).
I am quite amazed at the responses regarding dual layer discs. If the DVD drive works, you will be able to read it, the ability to write a dual layer disc has nothing to do with it, otherwise that reasoning could be used to say that a DVD drive can't read a single layer disc if it can't write one.
Only broken DVD drives can't read the second layer of a good disc. I guess Apple overestimated the typical user's understanding of technology in this case, they probably wanted to impress people with the amount of digital material included.
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Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
I think part of the reason are probably more about buyer pyschology and marketing/shelf space/visibility than anything else.
This is most of it. Part of it is to help describe the product, harder to do with a smaller box, at least that is the claim used to get around certain consumer protection laws that the box couldn't be deceptively larger than the actual product.
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Originally posted by sCreeD
Actually PC games adopted a large paperback book-sized box some years ago. These are actually smaller than the iLife/iWork '05 boxes.
The size difference isn't that significant, I would place it as smaller than the smaller game boxes. It is about the size of three CD cases stacked.
Well as in the DVDs of motion pictures. Blank DL Discs are still too expensive - around £6 in England compared to less than £1 for a single layer blank DVD.
Well as in the DVDs of motion pictures. Blank DL Discs are still too expensive - around £6 in England compared to less than £1 for a single layer blank DVD.
I haven't noticed, I have my good old Nov. '05 Powerbook...
Not all commercial DVDs you buy are dual layer. Some don't come with any extras, or just plain don't last that long.
And some are just mastered single layer to save money, or because it was easier. Particularly, a lot of my circa 2000 DVDs are single layer. My eyes hurt after I watch them. I have nightmares that artifacts are hunting me down and turning me into an oddly shaded square.
This is most likely to help conserve energy. Uncle Steve, along with the rest of the company, are all ecologically-minded (and economically, too ... but these are added pluses with the lower costs of less materials). If they make the packaging smaller, more paper and ink is wasted, and more boxes can go in shipping ships/trucks. Ecologically better.
Also, if the lack of system requirements is a problem... why can't they just talk to an Apple Rep or go on the Apple website?
Here's a link to Apple's "Materials Efficiency" program:
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Originally posted by Nautical
Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
That's what I was going to say.
As for the smaller packaging, it came as quite a shock to me. I was sitting on the couch waiting for the UPS guy... and I see the truck arrive (good thing). But as he walked to the door, I realized the package couldn't be iLife, it was so SMALL (bad thing)! So I sign for it... and open it up, and it IS iLife (good thing).
Originally posted by rob05au
Hi
If your DVD Burner cannot burn DL DVDs it will not read them either.
Rob
I'm sorry - what did you say?
DVD-ROMs support dual-layer DVDs. All commercial DVDs that you buy are dual-layer. Sheesh
Only broken DVD drives can't read the second layer of a good disc. I guess Apple overestimated the typical user's understanding of technology in this case, they probably wanted to impress people with the amount of digital material included.
Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
I think part of the reason are probably more about buyer pyschology and marketing/shelf space/visibility than anything else.
This is most of it. Part of it is to help describe the product, harder to do with a smaller box, at least that is the claim used to get around certain consumer protection laws that the box couldn't be deceptively larger than the actual product.
Originally posted by sCreeD
Actually PC games adopted a large paperback book-sized box some years ago. These are actually smaller than the iLife/iWork '05 boxes.
The size difference isn't that significant, I would place it as smaller than the smaller game boxes. It is about the size of three CD cases stacked.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
... All commercial DVDs that you buy are dual-layer. Sheesh
Interesting. I didn't know that.
Originally posted by iShawn
Interesting. I didn't know that.
Well as in the DVDs of motion pictures. Blank DL Discs are still too expensive - around £6 in England compared to less than £1 for a single layer blank DVD.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
Well as in the DVDs of motion pictures. Blank DL Discs are still too expensive - around £6 in England compared to less than £1 for a single layer blank DVD.
I haven't noticed, I have my good old Nov. '05 Powerbook...
Straight off my memory I can tell you two such movies:
1. The Big Lebowski.
2. Open Your Eyes.
Most do, but not all.
Originally posted by Gene Clean
Not all commercial DVDs you buy are dual layer. Some don't come with any extras, or just plain don't last that long.
And some are just mastered single layer to save money, or because it was easier. Particularly, a lot of my circa 2000 DVDs are single layer. My eyes hurt after I watch them. I have nightmares that artifacts are hunting me down and turning me into an oddly shaded square.
Also, if the lack of system requirements is a problem... why can't they just talk to an Apple Rep or go on the Apple website?
Here's a link to Apple's "Materials Efficiency" program:
http://www.apple.com/environment/des...fficiency.html
Also, here's Apple's "Environmental Management Plan:"
http://www.apple.com/environment/facilities/management/