I think steve jobs has a lot to bring to the table with a company like disney; a company that pioneered the boundries of entertainment in many forms like classic movies, global symbols and icons, and physical entertainment. Most of what jobs could do for diseny would not have to do with Apple. Sure you have iTunes and iPod and content, but I think the range of benifit jobs could offer is much greater, espessialy in but not limited to motion pictures.
......It's possible that Jobs does want to hand that off so he can focus more on Apple, and that he wants to give Lasseter and other Pixar folks the best possible outcome for their careers. Which might mean allowing them to spread their leadership and talents over more projects/films ... at Disney.
IMHO, this looks like the most sensible argument. jobs gradually handing over pixar to lasseter, to focus on apple through to the end of the decade. jobs first ensuring pixar has, after Cars, secure distribution, merchandising, funding
jobs being more involved in running disney to gain more movie and tv media leverage is i am sure an extremely tempting idea but i think given disney/ pixar/ abc iTMS deals, the focus is now on the mobile space and the vast content of other studios and stations: cbs, viacom, sony, universal, paramount/dreamworks, etc. etc.
i agree that jobs wants that growth space/ scope for his pixar people when they go over to disney. but other than that, disney with its empire of shows, animation, theme parks, merchandising, that's hell of a lot of crap that will distract him from apple.
at apple, there has never been a better time to execute some major strategies (i'm not talking just the intel switch -- that's just the beginning) so 100% iSteve is what apple needs now.
content boys content, apples future is in content without content a home entertainment center a video streaming can't move much forward also disney connects to abc and their content. this is strategic for apple and SJ
I remember a couple of years ago, someone -- I don't remember who -- asked Jobs about how much time he spends at his two companies. He said that, aside from time with family, his time is split pretty evenly between Pixar and Apple.
Now, that may have changed since the iPod exploded everywhere and Apple is a well-known name again.
He did say that, but I didn't believe it then. Right now, it would be impossible.
Wasn't there rumor of Steve Jobs and Steven Spielberg starting a new animation studio together? Both walking away from their own, or at least Steven walking away from the Dreamworks Animation side of it....
I've never heard that.
I don't think it would be possible. Spielberg is too connected with Dreamworks, and what has happened to it. He also insists on doing work anywhere he wants, even for competitors.
......It's possible that Jobs does want to hand that off so he can focus more on Apple, and that he wants to give Lasseter and other Pixar folks the best possible outcome for their careers. Which might mean allowing them to spread their leadership and talents over more projects/films ... at Disney.
IMHO, this looks like the most sensible argument. jobs gradually handing over pixar to lasseter, to focus on apple through to the end of the decade. jobs first ensuring pixar has, after Cars, secure distribution, merchandising, funding
jobs being more involved in running disney to gain more movie and tv media leverage is i am sure an extremely tempting idea but i think given disney/ pixar/ abc iTMS deals, the focus is now on the mobile space and the vast content of other studios and stations: cbs, viacom, sony, universal, paramount/dreamworks, etc. etc.
i agree that jobs wants that growth space/ scope for his pixar people when they go over to disney. but other than that, disney with its empire of shows, animation, theme parks, merchandising, that's hell of a lot of crap that will distract him from apple.
at apple, there has never been a better time to execute some major strategies (i'm not talking just the intel switch -- that's just the beginning) so 100% iSteve is what apple needs now.
Lassetter is a founding member, but not a "co-founder" of PIXAR. It amazes me no one is discussing the other co-founder. You know, the one responsible for Renderman and all the technologies that allow Lassetter and his staff do what they do.
Lassetter is a founding member, but not a "co-founder" of PIXAR. It amazes me no one is discussing the other co-founder. You know, the one responsible for Renderman and all the technologies that allow Lassetter and his staff do what they do.
funny too, no one seems to remember this "other guy's" name? :P
$5 million dollars to buy, now worth $6.7 billion dollars.
whoa.
check from steve jobs for $1million, first installment
purchased while he was at Next
anyhoo,
about the founding:
"These are exactly the 40 founding employees of Pixar, including Ed Catmull and Alvy Ray Smith, the Co-founders. One of the 38 other founding employees is John Lasseter. Steve Jobs is the venture's capitalist - that is, its investor. The original Board of Directors consisted of Ed, Alvy, and Steve, with Steve as Chairman of the Board.
Tab 29, vol. II
[Historical Note: Malcolm Blanchard, Ed Catmull, David DiFrancesco, and Alvy Ray Smith from this list were the original members of the Computer Graphics Lab at New York Institute of Technology, with Malcolm and Ed slightly preceding David and Alvy. Also, Ralph Guggenheim and Bill Reeves from this list were at NYIT. Slightly later, Tom Duff, also at NYIT, rejoined us at Pixar. Ed, Alvy, and David were the original three employees of the Computer Division of Lucasfilm, arriving in quick succession in that order, and rejoined not too much later by Malcolm Blanchard.]"
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......It's possible that Jobs does want to hand that off so he can focus more on Apple, and that he wants to give Lasseter and other Pixar folks the best possible outcome for their careers. Which might mean allowing them to spread their leadership and talents over more projects/films ... at Disney.
IMHO, this looks like the most sensible argument. jobs gradually handing over pixar to lasseter, to focus on apple through to the end of the decade. jobs first ensuring pixar has, after Cars, secure distribution, merchandising, funding
jobs being more involved in running disney to gain more movie and tv media leverage is i am sure an extremely tempting idea but i think given disney/ pixar/ abc iTMS deals, the focus is now on the mobile space and the vast content of other studios and stations: cbs, viacom, sony, universal, paramount/dreamworks, etc. etc.
i agree that jobs wants that growth space/ scope for his pixar people when they go over to disney. but other than that, disney with its empire of shows, animation, theme parks, merchandising, that's hell of a lot of crap that will distract him from apple.
at apple, there has never been a better time to execute some major strategies (i'm not talking just the intel switch -- that's just the beginning) so 100% iSteve is what apple needs now.
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Originally posted by CosmoNut
I remember a couple of years ago, someone -- I don't remember who -- asked Jobs about how much time he spends at his two companies. He said that, aside from time with family, his time is split pretty evenly between Pixar and Apple.
Now, that may have changed since the iPod exploded everywhere and Apple is a well-known name again.
He did say that, but I didn't believe it then. Right now, it would be impossible.
Originally posted by CharlesS
If it weren't for Amelio, there would be no OS X. The decision to buy NeXT was made by Amelio...
Amelio is given a bad rap. He didn't have the charisma, but he started Apple down the right road financially.
Originally posted by Feynman
Wasn't there rumor of Steve Jobs and Steven Spielberg starting a new animation studio together? Both walking away from their own, or at least Steven walking away from the Dreamworks Animation side of it....
I've never heard that.
I don't think it would be possible. Spielberg is too connected with Dreamworks, and what has happened to it. He also insists on doing work anywhere he wants, even for competitors.
No way Jobs and Spielberg could work together.
Originally posted by sunilraman
Originally posted by mark2005
......It's possible that Jobs does want to hand that off so he can focus more on Apple, and that he wants to give Lasseter and other Pixar folks the best possible outcome for their careers. Which might mean allowing them to spread their leadership and talents over more projects/films ... at Disney.
IMHO, this looks like the most sensible argument. jobs gradually handing over pixar to lasseter, to focus on apple through to the end of the decade. jobs first ensuring pixar has, after Cars, secure distribution, merchandising, funding
jobs being more involved in running disney to gain more movie and tv media leverage is i am sure an extremely tempting idea but i think given disney/ pixar/ abc iTMS deals, the focus is now on the mobile space and the vast content of other studios and stations: cbs, viacom, sony, universal, paramount/dreamworks, etc. etc.
i agree that jobs wants that growth space/ scope for his pixar people when they go over to disney. but other than that, disney with its empire of shows, animation, theme parks, merchandising, that's hell of a lot of crap that will distract him from apple.
at apple, there has never been a better time to execute some major strategies (i'm not talking just the intel switch -- that's just the beginning) so 100% iSteve is what apple needs now.
Lassetter is a founding member, but not a "co-founder" of PIXAR. It amazes me no one is discussing the other co-founder. You know, the one responsible for Renderman and all the technologies that allow Lassetter and his staff do what they do.
Lassetter is a founding member, but not a "co-founder" of PIXAR. It amazes me no one is discussing the other co-founder. You know, the one responsible for Renderman and all the technologies that allow Lassetter and his staff do what they do.
funny too, no one seems to remember this "other guy's" name? :P
here's an interesting Pixar: how it started page.
http://www.alvyray.com/Pixar/default.htm
$5 million dollars to buy, now worth $6.7 billion dollars.
whoa.
check from steve jobs for $1million, first installment
purchased while he was at Next
anyhoo,
about the founding:
"These are exactly the 40 founding employees of Pixar, including Ed Catmull and Alvy Ray Smith, the Co-founders. One of the 38 other founding employees is John Lasseter. Steve Jobs is the venture's capitalist - that is, its investor. The original Board of Directors consisted of Ed, Alvy, and Steve, with Steve as Chairman of the Board.
Tab 29, vol. II
[Historical Note: Malcolm Blanchard, Ed Catmull, David DiFrancesco, and Alvy Ray Smith from this list were the original members of the Computer Graphics Lab at New York Institute of Technology, with Malcolm and Ed slightly preceding David and Alvy. Also, Ralph Guggenheim and Bill Reeves from this list were at NYIT. Slightly later, Tom Duff, also at NYIT, rejoined us at Pixar. Ed, Alvy, and David were the original three employees of the Computer Division of Lucasfilm, arriving in quick succession in that order, and rejoined not too much later by Malcolm Blanchard.]"
Originally posted by nathan22t
i hope Steve can bring MNF back to network TV for me
Funny!!