iChat

zozo
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in Mac Software edited January 2014
OK, from the screen shots, its looks horrible. I hate to say it, but the two 'bubbles' talking to eachother from an icon of th eperson you are talking to is... gay (with no offense to gay people of course). It looks like software from the mid 90s when web apps were a new thing and they had all sorts of 'fun' ideas (like pictures of you or an avatar).



What I REALLY want is the ability to add other services... like Yahoo, ICQ, and especially (for me) MSN Messenger. I dont have a single friend on any other service except messenger



What do you guys think of it (from what we know)?

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 20
    scadboyscadboy Posts: 189member
    [quote]Originally posted by ZO:

    <strong>of th eperson you are talking to is... gay (with no offense to gay people of course)</strong><hr></blockquote>



    now, honestly, if you're going to go to the trouble of writing "with no offense to gay people of course" couldn't you just find a different word to use, like, I dunno... "stupid?" that's a good non offensive word that everyone can agree upon.



    secondly, while I agree with you based on what I've seen of iChat so far, it does look kinda lame, all I've seen so far is a tiny little screenshot on apple's website. I'll reserve judgement until I actually use the software, or atleast see some more screenshots. If it sucks, I'll just stick with proteus, which covers every chat client under the sun (AIM, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, ICQ..) and runs circles around the "official" clients for AIM, Yahoo, and MSN.



    check it out, yo...

    <a href="http://www.indigofield.com/"; target="_blank">proteus homepage</a>



    ciao,



    michael



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  • Reply 2 of 20
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    or check out <a href="http://www.epicware.com/fire.html"; target="_blank">Fire</a>

    i use it and like it a lot better than proteus, though I miss the menubar item.
  • Reply 3 of 20
    scadboyscadboy Posts: 189member
    eh, I used fire at first, but I feel that proteus is just better integrated and feels much more stable. I also prefer proteus' aesthetic, nice nice icons and layout.



    what I am really excited about in jaguar is the level of integration they're going with in Addressbook, sounds like it's going to be very similar to a palm os or newton style system where you contact info will be easily accessible in any application that needs it. Sounds like newton's soups are joining rosetta (now ink or inkwell) on the new os.



    I really think apple is making all the right moves right now. the new powerbooks gave us what we asked for, the eMac is going for blood in the education market, the iMac is just plain cool again, and everything coming in jaguar sounds exciting... lets just hope they pull it all off.



    ciao,



    michael
  • Reply 4 of 20
    mpmcquinnmpmcquinn Posts: 13member
    You know you need to get out of your narrow minded point of view when you stoop to the level of associating someone's sexuality with a bad UI. Being gay and in an American high school, I have to deal with hearing that crap day in and day out, but I wouldn't expect to hear it from those who -- and I'm going on a weak assumption that you're included here -- can express themselves in more than grunts and expletives. Maybe I should call the eMac Jewish and then say "oh wait, no offense to all you jews out there." Pretty offensive, dude. Grow up.



    [quote]Originally posted by ZO:

    <strong>I hate to say it, but the two 'bubbles' talking to eachother from an icon of th eperson you are talking to is... gay (with no offense to gay people of course).</strong><hr></blockquote>
  • Reply 5 of 20
    serranoserrano Posts: 1,806member
    [quote]Originally posted by Mpmcquinn:

    <strong>You know you need to get out of your narrow minded point of view when you stoop to the level of associating someone's sexuality with a bad UI. Being gay and in an American high school, I have to deal with hearing that crap day in and day out, but I wouldn't expect to hear it from those who -- and I'm going on a weak assumption that you're included here -- can express themselves in more than grunts and expletives. Maybe I should call the eMac Jewish and then say "oh wait, no offense to all you jews out there." Pretty offensive, dude. Grow up.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>





    keep it out of the boards. pleeeeeeease
  • Reply 6 of 20
    zozo Posts: 3,115member
    listen, thats what I thought when I saw it ok? So thats what I said.



    Anyway... back to discussion.



    From what has been seen, it looks like it was made for technophobes.



    I just hope there different views or that we will be able to hack the crap out of it.
  • Reply 7 of 20
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Apparently it can be used as a Messaging Device on LANs!



    This is my thinking of that feature:

    You can have peer2peer conversations within AIM, and now we can discover people on our LANs, so this is great

    It is like sending out server wide messages but now being able to get a response!





    However, i do think Apple made this a little busy. Possibly, maybe you can turn down all the flashyness and bubbles.



    Also, saying gay is totally unneccesary, you could just stupid, i agree <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 8 of 20
    jambojambo Posts: 3,036member
    Yeah the tiny screenshot on <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/newversion"; target="_blank">Apple.com</a> does look a bit gay but take a look at the video on <a href="http://www.news.com"; target="_blank">CNET</a>, it's quite groovy. Check out the way the buddies shift around. Kewl.



    J :cool:
  • Reply 9 of 20
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    how does proteus compare to adium?? thanks g



    looking for the best os x instant messaging app for my kids to use at home....
  • Reply 10 of 20
    zozo Posts: 3,115member
    I checked out the video too <a href="http://news.com.com/2014-1089-0.html"; target="_blank">http://news.com.com/2014-1089-0.html</a>; and gotta say that while it looks 'dinky' it sure as heck is powerful!



    The guy also says there is no restriction to the size of the files you transfer to eachother. Will there be resumable downloads? Can we say iWarez



    imagine: AI Buddy list to transfer files to eashother of latest Jag builds and whatnot... would be nuts.



    Again though, I really really hope we get MSN Messenger integration. There is no way I can get 120 people from my buddy list to subscribe for AIM!!!
  • Reply 11 of 20
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    [quote]

    how does proteus compare to adium?? thanks g



    looking for the best os x instant messaging app for my kids to use at home....

    <hr></blockquote>

    proteus rocks, with its menu bar item, but fire is better(in my opinion)<a href="http://www.epicware.com"; target="_blank">Epicware sw</a>
  • Reply 12 of 20
    mingming Posts: 41member
    Hmmm. How popular are MSN and Yahoo Messenger? It seems to me that for us college kids AIM is absolutely the norm, I mean,"just AIM me" has become a part of our language! We don't say "just Yahoo Messenger me" or "MSN me!" at all! Just wondering what markets Yahoo and MSN have captured.
  • Reply 13 of 20
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by Ming:

    <strong>Hmmm. How popular are MSN and Yahoo Messenger? It seems to me that for us college kids AIM is absolutely the norm, I mean,"just AIM me" has become a part of our language! We don't say "just Yahoo Messenger me" or "MSN me!" at all! Just wondering what markets Yahoo and MSN have captured.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    That's how I've always thought. No one I know (high school kids) uses MSN or Yahoo or any others. Everyone is on AIM/AOL though.
  • Reply 14 of 20
    myahmacmyahmac Posts: 222member
    i am a senior in highschool and getting an aim SN is almost as important as her cell phone #. then sometimes you get her home phone number.
  • Reply 15 of 20
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    Does it support video chat?
  • Reply 16 of 20
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong>Does it support video chat?</strong><hr></blockquote>No.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    posterboyposterboy Posts: 147member
    Whatever happened to ICQ? It has always been by far the easiest to use. So what if there are certain *cough* security problems *cough*. AOL is good too though. I have been hoping that since AOL bought ICQ one would be incorporated into the other somehow, but it just ain't gonna happen any time soon is it?



    Either way, I'd much rather have SCANNER DRIVERS than an IM Client in what is essentially the third (public) version of this OS. I realise it isn't exactly Apples job to write drivers for Epson, Canon, Microtek et al, but it is their responsibility to make sure that said companies DO write them. I can't even count the number of people I know with scanners beside their machines that sit un used just because of a lack of drivers.



    --PB
  • Reply 18 of 20
    timothytimothy Posts: 10member
    [quote]Originally posted by Ming:

    <strong>Hmmm. How popular are MSN and Yahoo Messenger? It seems to me that for us college kids AIM is absolutely the norm, I mean,"just AIM me" has become a part of our language! We don't say "just Yahoo Messenger me" or "MSN me!" at all! Just wondering what markets Yahoo and MSN have captured.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    MSN seems to be popular in schools in New Zealand.



    Think of the thousands of people with Hotmail accounts. Some people will use MSN just because they are already registered (hve a Hotmail account)
  • Reply 19 of 20
    dividenddividend Posts: 119member
    I am quite sure that AOL is not at all very popular in Europe, where msn and ICQ rule. An other way of making a difference between Europe and the US.... grrhhh
  • Reply 20 of 20
    tobyxtobyx Posts: 35member
    About two years ago I had about two or three contacts in AIM which were exclusively from the U.S.



    Now my Proteus contact lists are filled with about the same number of contacts in ICQ and AIM each - MSN and YahooIM are still empty.



    I don't want proprietary things but as AOL gives away their client for free and the iChat application doesn't seem to have ads in it, I'll try it. I'll even go as far as forcing my ICQ buddies to switch to AIM *lol* Then I'll see how much influence I have



    Oh and BTW, using the word gay in all sorts of situations to describe something negative is not suitable and should be avoided. People might easily get offended because there is nothing wrong with me or others.
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