Full Speed ahead, Lust Factor 10= No Services

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nixholasnixholas
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
To say this *thing* will have a Lust Factor of 10, basically I think this rules out the Idea of it being a Service, at least this Is my take on it.



This thread will probably be locked because it has todays slogan in it. Just wanted you to know I'm not suprised, just dissapointed, seeing as how this directly to future hardware
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  • Reply 1 of 37
    jeremiah richjeremiah rich Posts: 853member
    Well, considering how big the keynote will be, I am excpecting more than just one big thing to be shown. (Maye even more than 1 more digital lifestyle device revealed)
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  • Reply 2 of 37
    o and ao and a Posts: 579member
    jermiah got a point



    they say this one is going to be big and so i hope theres more than one reason for that cause then they are over hyping
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  • Reply 3 of 37
    horned_froghorned_frog Posts: 577member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nixholas:

    <strong>To say this *thing* will have a Lust Factor of 10, basically I think this rules out the Idea of it being a Service, at least this Is my take on it.



    This thread will probably be locked because it has todays slogan in it. Just wanted you to know I'm not suprised, just dissapointed, seeing as how this directly to future hardware</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I disagree. Yeah a PM G5 @ 2 Ghz or somethign has a lust factor of 10 for me, but a global broadband service has a lust factor of about 50 for me.
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  • Reply 4 of 37
    junkyard dawgjunkyard dawg Posts: 2,801member
    What's with all the Star Trek references?



    Is Steve Jobs a ST fan? Or is there a deeper meaning to the ST reference?



    I'm detecting two different connotations with this ST flavor:



    1. A digital device of some sort, much like the iWalk, an updated Newton with much, much more power and features. Literally a handheld computer, something that powerful. The connection is that in Star Trek, handheld computers are commonplace, a required part of any ST set is someone with a TriCorder, taking sensor readings. How does Gigawire fit in? More about that in a second.



    2. Speed. There is definitely a connotation of speed and power in these teasers. I'm pessimistic about Powermac speeds, but it seems that Apple thinks they have something fast on their hands. Perhaps it's the 1 GHz &lt;gulp&gt; Powermac and Steve is all hot 'n bothered over the mythical 1 GHz mark.



    Now, back to Gigawire. It's clearly wireless, it's got something to do with netorking, and it's FAST. So I'm going out on a limb:



    Gigawire has two potential uses:



    1. It's a high-bandwidth transfer technology for use with a wireless display. It will be used with the iDock. The iDock will be an LCD display, with a keyboard and mouse, that one can move all over their house. It will communicate with the base computer, a desktop or laptop, using gigawire.



    At the right price, iDock could be a smashing success. If it's overpriced, expect another cube debacle. If the iDock is even slightly overpriced, then people will opt for a conventional LCD display instead...and remember, Apple LCD displays are already ridiculously overpriced.



    Alternatively, this could be a feature that Apple will implement in ALL of their displays as a standard feature. Perhaps they will all be "Gigawire ready", and to use them as such, one will need to have a Mac equipped for Gigawire. IMO this would be the way to go, because Apple displays currently are overpriced and not competitive at all. There's no reason to buy an ASD over some other brand of LCD, and a few other LCDs are cheaper and just as high of quality. But if Apple offered a compelling reason to buy their displays, like wireless displays, then they would be in the money.



    The one problem here is that no matter how wireless the display is, it will need a power cord. But outlets are all over the place, so it might still be a good product. I would want one if they had VALUE. Hear that Apple, let's say it again, V-A-L-U-E. Got it? Now let's use it in a sentence; "The iBook sells well because it has VALUE". ok, end of lesson for today, Apple. Take it home and study it, learn it, and tomorrow there will be a quiz.



    2. Gigawire could be used for wireless transfer of data between a Mac and this new digital device. As soon as the device is in proximity of it's "mother Mac", it syncs with it and one can print, download or upload data, etc. Once can access the internet or a local network with it as well. Basically, it's an Airport connection hopped up on cocaine.
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  • Reply 5 of 37
    dmarksdmarks Posts: 8member
    have always thought about this problem with power cords etc, and if you dont have them, then having to have a batery or something. Would'nt it be cool if you did not need either. Like you had airport kind of power. Sounds totaly un-realistic, but think about mobile phones / and espeshial radio!!! And how long has that been out for!



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  • Reply 6 of 37
    horned_froghorned_frog Posts: 577member
    [quote]Originally posted by dmarks:

    <strong>have always thought about this problem with power cords etc, and if you dont have them, then having to have a batery or something. Would'nt it be cool if you did not need either. Like you had airport kind of power. Sounds totaly un-realistic, but think about mobile phones / and espeshial radio!!! And how long has that been out for!



    :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    funny i was thinking the same thing. A device that was powered over airwaves or something would be cool. You plug in the base, and it sends the power through the air to the machine. Of course the user would probably die of exposure in a year.



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  • Reply 7 of 37
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    [quote]Originally posted by Horned_Frog:

    <strong>



    funny i was thinking the same thing. A device that was powered over airwaves or something would be cool. You plug in the base, and it sends the power through the air to the machine. Of course the user would probably die of exposure in a year.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Look here: <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000299"; target="_blank">Gigawire on AI</a> and about halfway through the thread you will see info on Telsa. An inventor that thought up wireless electricity (among other things).



    -Paul
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  • Reply 7 of 37
    nebrienebrie Posts: 483member
    Lust factor could either mean power lust (fast g4/5) or appeal (new imac) or (ipod). I'm torn between these. My opinion is that the star trek reference before this one could possibly mean some new feature on the new powermacs that pcs have never had (like the much rumored raycer chip) or maybe even an announcement of the Geforce4 shipping for Macs first (or a combo of both for insane graphics performance). The Geforce4 could technically qualify as territory that PCs have never gone to (for at least a week before pc versions flood the market). But that's just one possibility. I somehow don't think the Star Trek project or a sattelite network is what Apple had in mind when they wrote this stuff. Heck, maybe the writer just happened to be a Star Trek fan and wanted to get some of it worked into the text for all we know. My guess for this new one, is it could be a continuation of that, or be talking about the iMac or a new digital device depending on which is the larger announcement and how much you'll want/love one since the iMac was made to be quite loveable. oh well....
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  • Reply 9 of 37
    kurtkurt Posts: 225member
    I think the lust factor refers to a new iMac. I think the shape will be different enough to be beyond the rumor sites, different enough to be where no PC has gone before, and 'will blow us away' per Steve.
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  • Reply 10 of 37
    majukimajuki Posts: 114member
    [quote]Originally posted by psantora:

    <strong>



    Look here: <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000299"; target="_blank">Gigawire on AI</a> and about halfway through the thread you will see info on Telsa. An inventor that thought up wireless electricity (among other things).



    -Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>





    You beat me to the Tesla post.
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  • Reply 11 of 37
    x704x704 Posts: 276member
    Am I the only one who can see the obvious? Paramount is buying Apple Computers They will rename them Star Trek Computers. .



    In all seriousness though, I'd definately have to agree that "lust" would apply to an object, not services. The fact that they say "Full speed ahead:Lust factor ten" implies massive speed (as all trekers know, warp 10 is extrememly fast, faster then your typical star ship ... "go where no PC has gone before"). Hmmm, maybe I'll be getting a G5 afterall ... mabye ... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
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  • Reply 12 of 37
    gnomgnom Posts: 85member
    [quote]Originally posted by Horned_Frog:

    <strong>



    funny i was thinking the same thing. A device that was powered over airwaves or something would be cool. You plug in the base, and it sends the power through the air to the machine. Of course the user would probably die of exposure in a year.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>





    hehe, and don´t let your dog walk through it until you prefer them dogs fried.





    bye.
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  • Reply 13 of 37
    macommentarymacommentary Posts: 196member
    [quote]Originally posted by Horned_Frog:

    <strong>



    I disagree. Yeah a PM G5 @ 2 Ghz or somethign has a lust factor of 10 for me, but a global broadband service has a lust factor of about 50 for me.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    or 2 G5s



    [ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: MaCommentary ]</p>
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  • Reply 14 of 37
    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    mmmmm... Lust...



    I agree with Horned Frog, a global broadband service would make me the happiest person alive. D*mn Verizon and Comcast.
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  • Reply 15 of 37
    jwdawsojwdawso Posts: 399member
    [quote]Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg:

    <strong>What's with all the Star Trek references?



    Is Steve Jobs a ST fan? Or is there a deeper meaning to the ST reference? ...

    1. A digital device of some sort, much like the iWalk, an updated Newton with much, much more power and features. Literally a handheld computer, something that powerful. ..



    2. Speed. .. I'm pessimistic about Powermac speeds...



    Now, back to Gigawire. It's clearly wireless, it's got something to do with netorking, and it's FAST...Gigawire has two potential uses:



    1. It's a high-bandwidth transfer technology for use with a wireless display. It will be used with the iDock....At the right price, iDock could be a smashing success. If it's overpriced, expect another cube debacle. .. I would want one if they had VALUE. Hear that Apple, let's say it again, V-A-L-U-E. Got it? Now let's use it in a sentence; "The iBook sells well because it has VALUE". ok, end of lesson for today, Apple. Take it home and study it, learn it, and tomorrow there will be a quiz.



    2. Gigawire could be used for wireless transfer of data between a Mac and this new digital device. As soon as the device is in proximity of it's "mother Mac", it syncs with it and one can print, download or upload data, etc. Once can access the internet or a local network with it as well. ..</strong><hr></blockquote>



    JYD -



    ST1 & G2) You may be right, but I have a Newton 2000 (upgraded to a 2100), and it's just TOO BIG. It needs to be able to fit in your pocket. It's hard to imagine some device with mass appeal that is the same as a notebook but just a little smaller and lighter. I haven't seen handhelds be too successful.



    ST2) Stop being so pessmistic about speed!



    G1) Get off your horse and define value. The cube was a computer, just smaller. G1 is NEW. If value is defined as iPod=$399, then I'm with you. Innovative devices when first released have a premium. This would be a competitor to HDTV - do you have a HDTV? How does HDTV fit in your value scheme? Do you think you'll have HDTV in the future? How does the TiBook fit in your value scheme? A BMW? To meet your "value" criteria, should Apple sell products at a loss? Or should Apple not sell expensive products, and just join the Dells and Compaqs selling commodities?



    Last thing - what do you define as success? That Apple SELLS a million? My definition is that Apple MAKES a $million. And if it brings people into the Apple Store, and they walk out with a Mac also, that's how Apple's market share grows, and continues being successful. My attitude is that I'll have an iPod, a G5, a G1, etc., but I might not be able to afford them today - I'll get it manana.



    [ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: jwdawso ]</p>
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  • Reply 16 of 37
    horned_froghorned_frog Posts: 577member
    I got it I got it! Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force is replacing Bugdom as the free game on consumer level machines!
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  • Reply 17 of 37
    marcukmarcuk Posts: 4,442member
    It depends on how you interpret the tag.



    Full speed Ahead: Lust factor 10



    Do you take it a 2 seperate statements obviously cleverly connected?



    Ie 2GHZ g5 : Beautiful iMac



    or as a single entity.

    Ie. Beautiful iMac



    I think they're saying Full Lust factor 10 ahead.
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  • Reply 18 of 37
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    the one more thing will be wireless broadband....this is why SJ moved his talk up a day...currently there is only one G4 in space so maybe he had to move the talk up for it to be overhead when he was talking to show it off....it will be a huge hit when he carries in a new iMac, plugs in the power cord, but no other connections...powers up...hit the internet button on the new keyboard and connects wireless to space!!! much cheering even as he explains that it will be a year for the other 500 (now) G5's to be thrust into space....g
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  • Reply 19 of 37
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    Nono, Apple is actually entering the pron market with their new "iPron" (pronounced "apron") service, for some high end lust factor satisfaction. Of course at about 50$/day.



    G-news
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  • Reply 20 of 37
    minguezminguez Posts: 19member
    They changed the payoffline slightly.

    from ; to :



    Thats it! This means that....you fill in.
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