PC vs console gaming
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Originally posted by lundy
As far as Mac game developers, they can bite me. All their blathering over the last 20 years about the market being too small, and their insistence on porting Windows games instead of actually designing anything should come back to haunt them. If they had possessed any sense of vision, they might have seen that developing native games would have increased Mac hardware market share and in turn made their market larger.
Originally posted by lundy
As far as Mac game developers, they can bite me. All their blathering over the last 20 years about the market being too small, and their insistence on porting Windows games instead of actually designing anything should come back to haunt them. If they had possessed any sense of vision, they might have seen that developing native games would have increased Mac hardware market share and in turn made their market larger.
Gamers can bite me. If you really want to play games, get the x-box. It rocks.
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Originally posted by backtomac
Gamers can bite me. If you really want to play games, get the x-box. It rocks.
Why, when I can play PC games on my Intel Mac now?
Originally posted by Placebo
Why, when I can play PC games on my Intel Mac now?
Because it sucks compared to the x-box.
Originally posted by backtomac
Because it sucks compared to the x-box.
That's where you're wrong. Because gaming with a keyboard and mouse is better than playing Xbox titles.
Originally posted by Placebo
That's where you're wrong. Because gaming with a keyboard and mouse is better than playing Xbox titles.
<as he sites huddled in his dark windowless corner, eating potato chips and dreaming about the release of UT2006.... all the while keeping a close eye on his soaking retainer>
Originally posted by sulo28
<as he sites huddled in his dark windowless corner, eating potato chips and dreaming about the release of UT2006.... all the while keeping a close eye on his soaking retainer>
It's UT2007.
Originally posted by backtomac
You should leave this symbol when you're joking
It's okay, Intel Macs can play PC games now, you don't need to pretend PC gaming is dead to feel good about yourself anymore.
Originally posted by Placebo
It's okay, Intel Macs can play PC games now, you don't need to pretend PC gaming is dead to feel good about yourself anymore.
It doesn't make me feel anything. If you want the best gaming experience I say go xbox. Hell I played COD2 recently and now need valium for post traumatic stress disorder. That shit was freaky real.
Originally posted by backtomac
It doesn't make me feel anything. If you want the best gaming experience I say go xbox. Hell I played COD2 recently and now need valium for post traumatic stress disorder. That shit was freaky real.
If you played Call of Duty 2 on a PC, you'd realize that the shit looks more freaky real then it does on an xbox.
If you want to talk about running a PC game with BootCamp on an Intel Mac, feel free, but otherwise, find another thread.
Thenk yew.
--Your friendly neighborhood Mod
Originally posted by theapplegenius
If you played Call of Duty 2 on a PC, you'd realize that the shit looks more freaky real then it does on an xbox.
I would get it for my wife's pc but it requires a hardware accelerator, whatever the hell that is. I have King Kong and it's good but not as good as the xbox with cod2.
Originally posted by backtomac
I would get it for my wife's pc but it requires a hardware accelerator, whatever the hell that is. I have King Kong and it's good but not as good as the xbox with cod2.
"whatever the hell that is" = that little chip inside your computer that makes games run.
Originally posted by james808
As far as Mac gaming goes, lets be honest -- it doesn't exist. We get about two decent games a year ported over, along with an endless stream of crap and hopelessly outdated titles ("Fish Tycoon" anyone? Scheduled for release in April! I'm sure you all share my excitement over that one).
I'd love to have OS X versions of games, but since they don't exist, I will be playing the Windows versions, and now I don't have to buy another machine to do it. Thats great, and I think it is a good move for Apple.
If you want to be honest, why the hell are you using a computer to play games? Gaming is great and all, but the whole idea behind the Mac is production. How productive are you playing Quake or someother ridiculous title? Not very. You're consuming air and space, thats about it. Congrats.
Originally posted by sulo28
If you want to be honest, why the hell are you using a computer to play games? Gaming is great and all, but the whole idea behind the Mac is production. How productive are you playing Quake or someother ridiculous title? Not very. You're consuming air and space, thats about it. Congrats.
You win 'Worst Post Of The Thread'!
Congrats.
Originally posted by sulo28
If you want to be honest, why the hell are you using a computer to play games? Gaming is great and all, but the whole idea behind the Mac is production. How productive are you playing Quake or someother ridiculous title? Not very. You're consuming air and space, thats about it. Congrats.
I'm sorry I have been using my computer in a way not approved by Apple. I was deceived that my activities were accepted by the fact that they have a games page on their website and install graphics cards in their computers.
I will try to better serve the republic of fun-free drudgery in the future.
Originally posted by audiopollution
You win 'Worst Post Of The Thread'!
Congrats.
Well that was original. Way to rationalize your own mediocrity. MOVING ALONG to other, more intelligent minds.....
Originally posted by sulo28
If you want to be honest, why the hell are you using a computer to play games? Gaming is great and all, but the whole idea behind the Mac is production. How productive are you playing Quake or someother ridiculous title? Not very. You're consuming air and space, thats about it. Congrats.
We had nothing to do with your troubled childhood, so don't take it out on us.
Thanks.
Some games that are successful on the consoles just wouldn't work without a controller, and some games that are successful on a PC/Mac just wouldn't work without a keyboard or mouse. Both consoles and computers have their advantages and their drawbacks, it's too easy to dismiss one or the other out of hand.
Thankfully, I have a good HDTV for gaming and can get the full experience out of a 'next-gen' console. I'm not sure if I would have been nearly as quick to make the leap to get the Xbox 360 without the TV. I have heard (but still have not yet seen) that the 360 graphics are pretty much on par with the original Xbox when using a standard TV.
The MMORPG I've been playing for the last 3+ years, Shadowbane, was a PC/Mac Hybrid. It just wouldn't work on a console. It's really the only computer game that I've wanted to keep playing for any length of time, the others kind of sit there and aren't played. Unfortunately, Wolfpack Studios, the developer of the game, is being closed by UBI Soft on May 15th as they are becoming console exclusive (no PC or Mac titles at all). So who knows what the story with Shadowbane will be after May 15th.
I don't think Apple will throw their hat into the console ring, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. Consoles require a good amount of first party titles (meaning Apple would have to develop games). Take a look at what happened in the last generation of consoles with once successful Sega. They put everything they had into the Dreamcast and despite the PS2 launching with horrible titles and very few systems, it was enough to drive Sega under. Sega's games were better, they had an online service years before the PS2, and initially, their system had better graphics. But it couldn't play DVDs or old PS1 games and that's what ultimately killed it. Yes, Sega didn't have the warchest that other console makers like Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony had, but it's a really cutthroat business. Microsoft has lost money on the Xbox, Sony is going to have to take a bit loss, at least initially on the PS3, and Nintendo makes most of their money off of handhelds. Do you think Apple could really compete in that kind of market, and why would they want to?
Thankfully, I have a good HDTV for gaming and can get the full experience out of a 'next-gen' console. I'm not sure if I would have been nearly as quick to make the leap to get the Xbox 360 without the TV. I have heard (but still have not yet seen) that the 360 graphics are pretty much on par with the original Xbox when using a standard TV.
That's the key issue about consoles. A regular TV would only give you what, 480x360 resolution max (and I'm being very generous here). You would really need a HDTV 720p (1280x720) to make the most of an XBOX360 and the graphics that's capable of.
That's one advantage PC games have over consoles - resolution, if you're using your console with a regular TV.
For the record, I'm not advocating PC over consoles or vice versa, just highlighting the resolution issue which still boggles my mind sometimes. That even the XBOX normal and PS2 can push out far more sharper, progressive pixels than a regular TV can display as interlaced lines.
It would be virtually impossible to play a strategy game on a console, you need a keyboard and mouse (hence Starcraft for SNES failed).
Also, First Person Shooters are much, much better on PCs. A controller joystick is simply not accurate or fast enough for hardcore competitive play. Some people might dissagree, but just try running, strafing, jumping, aiming and firing all at the same time on a controller, just doesnt happen.
RPGs are probably equally good on either a PC or Console, depending on the game complexity, etc. Same for racing games.
Flight Sims have more controller options on PCs. But a controller is far better than a keyboard and mouse.
For "Mario type" games and 3rd person games, you definetly need a controller. Im really excited about the Nintendo Revolution. The old games were really the best.
I dont understand why some people think the Xbox is so great. What games does it have that are better than the PS2 or PC? Halo? Dont make me laugh, it was one of the lamest FPSs Ive ever played. The story was actually pretty decent until it got to "The Flood", then it became so cheesy I couldnt stand it.
In contrast, Final Fantasy X was the PS2s killer game, which rocked.
But in reality, most games were/are available for both...
So I think the advantages of the PC are:
Strategy
Flight Sim
First Person Shooter
Console:
3rd person
Most RPGs
Most racing games