Week 21 stock 2GHz. The case definitely gets hot, left palm rest gets pretty warm. In comparison, I had to run a 1.67 GHz 1440x960 powerbook at 100% CPU for 10 minutes before the powerbook got close to as warm as the MacBook Pro at idle. Idle CoreDuoTemp is 60-63 degrees C. However, the heat doesn't bother me as much in practice as I thought it would.
Whine is present on battery, but extremely hard to hear. Even in most quiet situations I can't hear it at all.
I can hear the fujitsu stock 5400 rpm, 80 GB disk spinning in quiet environments. Supposedly the seagates that some people have gotten by choosing a bigger drive at the apple store are silent.
As for apple store employees, I'd suggest not expecting accurate information from them. Their lack of knowledge is often quite appalling.
There's a bug in some core duos that causes them to report the temp wrong. Make sure to do both the SMC firmware update and the MacBook Pro 1.0.1 firmware update.
I honestly think it's an Intel thing, not a Mac thing. My buddy has a DELL notebook (DualCore 1.83Ghz) and it has that whining issue and more so when it is plugged in. The issue sounds exactely like what everyone here is worried about. So, blame Intel!!
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
I honestly think it's an Intel thing, not a Mac thing. My buddy has a DELL notebook (DualCore 1.83Ghz) and it has that whining issue and more so when it is plugged in. The issue sounds exactely like what everyone here is worried about. So, blame Intel!!
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
I honestly think it's an Intel thing, not a Mac thing. My buddy has a DELL notebook (DualCore 1.83Ghz) and it has that whining issue and more so when it is plugged in. The issue sounds exactely like what everyone here is worried about. So, blame Intel!!
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
Intel has nothing to do with it.
Welcome to south-east asian sweatshop design and assembly quality control!
The Intel processor is getting used to running Windows (it's been doing it for the past 20 years)...that's why it doesn't whine much when running Windows. OS X on the other hand hasn't been running on that processor for very long...thus the whining.
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Whine is present on battery, but extremely hard to hear. Even in most quiet situations I can't hear it at all.
I can hear the fujitsu stock 5400 rpm, 80 GB disk spinning in quiet environments. Supposedly the seagates that some people have gotten by choosing a bigger drive at the apple store are silent.
As for apple store employees, I'd suggest not expecting accurate information from them. Their lack of knowledge is often quite appalling.
Originally posted by Homestar06
Idle coreduotemp for me is 22 C on my 2.16 ghz
There's a bug in some core duos that causes them to report the temp wrong. Make sure to do both the SMC firmware update and the MacBook Pro 1.0.1 firmware update.
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
Originally posted by Cam'ron
I honestly think it's an Intel thing, not a Mac thing. My buddy has a DELL notebook (DualCore 1.83Ghz) and it has that whining issue and more so when it is plugged in. The issue sounds exactely like what everyone here is worried about. So, blame Intel!!
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
My MBP whines in OSX but not when I boot into XP.
Originally posted by Cam'ron
I honestly think it's an Intel thing, not a Mac thing. My buddy has a DELL notebook (DualCore 1.83Ghz) and it has that whining issue and more so when it is plugged in. The issue sounds exactely like what everyone here is worried about. So, blame Intel!!
PS. I get my refurb MBP early next week and will let you know if there is a whine or not.
Intel has nothing to do with it.
Welcome to south-east asian sweatshop design and assembly quality control!
Originally posted by skatman
Intel has nothing to do with it.
Welcome to south-east asian sweatshop design and assembly quality control!
Why would you believe the "whine" has anything to do with build quality?
Originally posted by aplnub
My MBP whines in OSX but not when I boot into XP.
I do more whining when I have to boot into XP.
Originally posted by aplnub
My MBP whines in OSX but not when I boot into XP.
The Intel processor is getting used to running Windows (it's been doing it for the past 20 years)...that's why it doesn't whine much when running Windows. OS X on the other hand hasn't been running on that processor for very long...thus the whining.
Originally posted by skatman
Intel has nothing to do with it.
Welcome to south-east asian sweatshop design and assembly quality control!
Oh, so that's why every other notebook in the universe suffers from the same problem!
Originally posted by untsig
but are you SURE you charged it?
I cut myself at work today.. Now I know why :P
Originally posted by user23
Why would you believe the "whine" has anything to do with build quality?
Because the whine comes from a loosely built power regulator for CPU.
My MBP whines in OSX but not when I boot into XP.
XP has different power management for CPU than OSX.
Oh, so that's why every other notebook in the universe suffers from the same problem!
Notebooks such Dell, Acer and other companies which use Chinese and Taiwanese designed and built boards suffer the same problems.
Notebooks which are built by Japanese companies, as far as I have seen, don't have these problems.
Notebooks built by South Korean companies have it, but less often.
In fact Taiwanese and Chinese built desktop motherboards have this problem as well.
I have yet to see this problem on a US built Intel boards.
Originally posted by skatman
Because the whine comes from a loosely built power regulator for CPU.
XP has different power management for CPU than OSX.
Notebooks such Dell, Acer and other companies which use Chinese and Taiwanese designed and built boards suffer the same problems.
Notebooks which are built by Japanese companies, as far as I have seen, don't have these problems.
Notebooks built by South Korean companies have it, but less often.
In fact Taiwanese and Chinese built desktop motherboards have this problem as well.
I have yet to see this problem on a US built Intel boards.
Haven't researched it very closely myself. I just like being involved. =D