Leopard / Vista Quandry
Hello everyone, it has been a while since I posted. Because of business needs, I sdwitched back to Windows after being all Mac since OS X first came out. In fact, we are still all Mac at home.
Our mission critical stuff, I have found the MS remote desktop allows me to run (USE) Windows apps that are installed on our server from my PB G4.
The problem that I have with switching back to Mac (IE letting my wife keep the PBG4 and buying a new Core Duo) is this:
Every one of the websites that I use (paid subcritons too- industry specific data bases) NO, NOT PORN, are not at all compatible with Mac browsers becuase they all seem to be built with a .Net or whatever, but they do not function on my mac. So, my PB G 4 sits at home and my wife uses it as an internet / email appliance.
Any thoughts.
Yes, Boot Camp. or, hey, new Dell, etc....
Our mission critical stuff, I have found the MS remote desktop allows me to run (USE) Windows apps that are installed on our server from my PB G4.
The problem that I have with switching back to Mac (IE letting my wife keep the PBG4 and buying a new Core Duo) is this:
Every one of the websites that I use (paid subcritons too- industry specific data bases) NO, NOT PORN, are not at all compatible with Mac browsers becuase they all seem to be built with a .Net or whatever, but they do not function on my mac. So, my PB G 4 sits at home and my wife uses it as an internet / email appliance.
Any thoughts.
Yes, Boot Camp. or, hey, new Dell, etc....
Comments
And, for God's sake, learn to spell.
Originally posted by Mr. Me
Since Vista will never be released, your question is moot.
What makes you think this?
Originally posted by backtomac
What makes you think this?
Much of what was supposed to be Vista has already been killed. You have to be an awfully optimistic Microsoft fan to believe that the rest of it won't meet the same fate.
Originally posted by Boukman
I think you would be a prime candidate to try Crossover Office for Mac OS X. This is just the kind of situation for which a "Windows virtualization layer" like WINE can be useful : when you only need to run this one application made for Windows, but want to use OS X for all the rest.
++.
Although apparently not *all* ActiveX controls work for IE 6 under Crossover (which I'm assuming is what your Windows-only websites are using). Might be worth writing to see if they're still accepting beta-testers.
Originally posted by Mr. Me
Much of what was supposed to be Vista has already been killed. You have to be an awfully optimistic Microsoft fan to believe that the rest of it won't meet the same fate.
It has lost a lot of features and will likely be a POS but it will come to market. Aren't they contractually obligated to bring it to market?
Originally posted by Mr. Me
Much of what was supposed to be Vista has already been killed. You have to be an awfully optimistic Microsoft fan to believe that the rest of it won't meet the same fate.
You're nuts. Vista will ship in early '07. Mid '07 at the latest.
I suspect, though, that Apple will be in very good shape with Leopard. I'm rather looking forward to the comparative reviews when the two OSes are released.
Originally posted by Hobbes
You're nuts. ...
After my earlier post, this article was published on MacWorld.com.
Originally posted by Mr. Me
After my earlier post, this article was published on MacWorld.com.
Yeah, early '07 to mid '07 seems likely.
You said:
Since Vista will never be released...
How on earth does that equal "we'll ship it when it's ready"? It doesn't. It's just FUD. If anything, MS is just getting a little smarter/more realistic about announcing shipping dates for their massively delayed, gazillion-lines-of-code software project. Good for 'em.
There are standards for web coding.
I know there are browser checks, but those can easily be circumvented.
Originally posted by Hobbes
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How on earth does that equal "we'll ship it when it's ready"? It doesn't. It's just FUD. If anything, MS is just getting a little smarter/more realistic about announcing shipping dates for their massively delayed, gazillion-lines-of-code software project. Good for 'em.
You kill me. If Microsoft had any hope of getting Vista ready by its currently already massively delayed ship date, this would not be an issue. "It will ship when it's ready" on every job I ever heard of means "I'm up to my a$$ in alligators. I have no idea when I'm going to finish, but I can't finish if I waste all my time talking to your sorry a$$!" Until proven wrong, I stand by my contention that the alligators will win and Vista will never ship.
If you really think Vista is not going ship at all, feel free to fantasize.
I mean, what's not to ship? There's not much left to the original vision -- it should be called Windows XP Service Pack 3, now with Aero?.
Of course it will ship -- in it's greatly reduced form.
Originally posted by lundy
Do these sites interact with some local client software or something?
That's my understanding of the issue. ActiveX controls is what is coming at this moment to my mind.
There are standards for web coding.
The problem is that some of the standards are not platform-agnostic; actually, they are Windows-specific.
Originally posted by Hobbes
If you really think Vista is not going ship at all, feel free to fantasize.
Exactly. Believing that Microsoft is going to sink down the toilet such a big development effort and cash, and stay there with nothing new to offer in the OS front for more than 5 years, sorry, but it is pure fantasy.
Mr. Me is being hyperbolic, but the essence of what he says is true. Vista is a massive, massive failure. By the time it ships (like 3-4 years late?) it will feature virtually none of the features that were to make it "great"... a paper launch is the term I believe.
Basically, it will be a Windows XP with compatibility issues, with ridiculously high required system specs (last I checked), 5 different flavours, a cheesy UI etc.
It will fail to penetrate the consumer market. Think Windows Millenium edition, but four years overdue.
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
ROTFL! (I assume that was sarcasm?)
Mr. Me is being hyperbolic, but the essence of what he says is true. Vista is a massive, massive failure. By the time it ships (like 3-4 years late?) it will feature virtually none of the features that were to make it "great"... a paper launch is the term I believe.
Basically, it will be a Windows XP with compatibility issues, with ridiculously high required system specs (last I checked), 5 different flavours, a cheesy UI etc.
It will fail to penetrate the consumer market. Think Windows Millenium edition, but four years overdue.
Now this I agree with.
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
ROTFL! (I assume that was sarcasm?)
Mr. Me is being hyperbolic, but the essence of what he says is true. Vista is a massive, massive failure. By the time it ships (like 3-4 years late?) it will feature virtually none of the features that were to make it "great"... a paper launch is the term I believe.
Basically, it will be a Windows XP with compatibility issues, with ridiculously high required system specs (last I checked), 5 different flavours, a cheesy UI etc.
It will fail to penetrate the consumer market. Think Windows Millenium edition, but four years overdue.
You're wrong.
Vista is massively delayed, and highly imitative (a number of the OS X-lookalike "inspirations" are just flat-out shameless), but
(a) it will not fail to penetrate the consumer market
(b) it is a *hell* of more significant upgrade than Windows 98 SE --> Windows ME
(c) it brings a great deal to Windows users that OS X users have enjoyed for years now, including a sophisticated graphics display system and improved UI in many places
(d) it will still be Windows (overcomplex, susceptible to viruses/malware, loaded with crummy trialware from PC manufacturers, etc)
Folks, you have to acknowledge that Microsoft *owns* the desktop OS market (just as Apple seems to now own the MP3 player/digital music market, an extraordinary feat in just 5 years). Nothing short of a paradigm shift will change this, and to think otherwise is Fantasy City.