Back to the topic of 'E!'.. That channel sucks, why is this news?
I'd rather have the sci-fi network have stargate and atlantis on there. I haven't had cable or even a television since september of last year; it'd be nice to have some commercial-free shows available outside of bittorrent. [/B]
It sucks for you. But then, you are only you. The channel is popular enough that it is an important addition. I know people (I'm not one, as I watch many of their shows, they have some good new ones) who think the Sci Fi channel sucks. There's no accounting for taste.
But, As I keep repeating, though some never bother to read earlier posts, Apple will sell any content, to anyone, if they are ALLOWED to license it.
This is pretty simple, and obvious. Why are people here still complaining?
Those who own the content are expected to do what they think they have to, in order to maximize their return on investment. If they don't think that iTunes will do that, they won't license their content for sale there. They get far more money selling their content as re-runs. They are also concerned that by putting content on iTunes, they devalue their content for future broadcast, and damage their relationships with the local stations which depend upon re-runs for most of their income, and viewership. This is a very big problem in the industry right now. Most content providers are therefore taking it slow.
The only way to convince them otherwise is to buy the content that is already there.
When iTunes is selling 50 million videos a month, most other content will move over as well. Right now there is little money to be made there, except for a few shows.
If Apple gets letters fron the content owners saying that they want the content sold by Apple to ONLY work with Fairplay, on devices Apple designates, Apple won't have to open up their eco-system. This goes for any other company as well.
I'd rather have the sci-fi network have stargate and atlantis on there. I haven't had cable or even a television since september of last year; it'd be nice to have some commercial-free shows available outside of bittorrent.
It's too bad, but I think there are licensing issues that prevent it. These TV shows have probably just never considered the possibility of being shown in different countries. There's a lot of music in other countries' music stores that I'd like to get too. I bet they have a lot of incentive to sell them internationally though - with the flip of a switch, they could triple their market. So I think it will come once the lawyers get it figured out.
I'm not sure also what they'd do with the BBC in the UK. It could be that non-UK residents will get to buy BBC shows sold via iTunes before UK residents. The licence fee here in theory means that the shows should be free and that's the policy the BBC has adopted so far with their IP based TV services in the UK. I can't see Apple giving away free BBC programs. They could however sell classic programs as they do now on DVD.
Sky, ITV and Channel 4 here have been selling their shows online for some time via their websites but sadly, only to Windows DRM users. You can for example buy Lost, which is shown on Channel 4 here for 99p an episode - cheaper than from Apple in the USA.
Again, it's looking like Apple have missed the first boat but as has been shown so far, that doesn't mean they won't catch up quick.
I'm not sure also what they'd do with the BBC in the UK. It could be that non-UK residents will get to buy BBC shows sold via iTunes before UK residents. The licence fee here in theory means that the shows should be free and that's the policy the BBC has adopted so far with their IP based TV services in the UK. I can't see Apple giving away free BBC programs. They could however sell classic programs as they do now on DVD.
Sky, ITV and Channel 4 here have been selling their shows online for some time via their websites but sadly, only to Windows DRM users. You can for example buy Lost, which is shown on Channel 4 here for 99p an episode - cheaper than from Apple in the USA.
Again, it's looking like Apple have missed the first boat but as has been shown so far, that doesn't mean they won't catch up quick.
We get BBC A here, at least on Time Warner. Of course it's not buying downloads, but it's interesting that the BBC does bring shows over. I've been watching HEX. There are some nutty shows there. I forget the name, but one has these two "friends?" competing. Really nutty
We get BBC A here, at least on Time Warner. Of course it's not buying downloads, but it's interesting that the BBC does bring shows over. I've been watching HEX. There are some nutty shows there. I forget the name, but one has these two "friends?" competing. Really nutty
HEX isn't a BBC product, it's a Sky TV show aka Fox aka Rupert Murdoch.
HEX isn't a BBC product, it's a Sky TV show aka Fox aka Rupert Murdoch.
Not sure what other show you mean.
The intricacies of British television are too complex for us to totally understand over here, as I suppose is ours to you. All I know is that it's on BBC A, not Fox.
The intricacies of British television are too complex for us to totally understand over here, as I suppose is ours to you. All I know is that it's on BBC A, not Fox.
The show is Ed vs. Spenser.
That's a Sky program too. So both the shows you like on BBC America, aren't actually by the BBC. :-)
I've not seen either since Sky TV involves having a satellite dish on the side of your house. A bit chavvy and I can't stand commercial TV anyway.
That's a Sky program too. So both the shows you like on BBC America, aren't actually by the BBC. :-)
I've not seen either since Sky TV involves having a satellite dish on the side of your house. A bit chavvy and I can't stand commercial TV anyway.
Well, believe me, with Ed vs. Spencer, you're not missing anything, unless you like truely childish programming. Too bad that we also have great shows like this.
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Originally posted by slughead
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Thus sayeth the slughead, and yea it was so.
Originally posted by slughead
France is about ready to essentially make Apple's business model illegal. If they do that, I hardly see Apple changing iPods just for France..
I thought that got voted down?
Originally posted by slughead
Back to the topic of 'E!'.. That channel sucks, why is this news?
I'd rather have the sci-fi network have stargate and atlantis on there. I haven't had cable or even a television since september of last year; it'd be nice to have some commercial-free shows available outside of bittorrent. [/B]
It sucks for you. But then, you are only you. The channel is popular enough that it is an important addition. I know people (I'm not one, as I watch many of their shows, they have some good new ones) who think the Sci Fi channel sucks. There's no accounting for taste.
But, As I keep repeating, though some never bother to read earlier posts, Apple will sell any content, to anyone, if they are ALLOWED to license it.
This is pretty simple, and obvious. Why are people here still complaining?
Those who own the content are expected to do what they think they have to, in order to maximize their return on investment. If they don't think that iTunes will do that, they won't license their content for sale there. They get far more money selling their content as re-runs. They are also concerned that by putting content on iTunes, they devalue their content for future broadcast, and damage their relationships with the local stations which depend upon re-runs for most of their income, and viewership. This is a very big problem in the industry right now. Most content providers are therefore taking it slow.
The only way to convince them otherwise is to buy the content that is already there.
When iTunes is selling 50 million videos a month, most other content will move over as well. Right now there is little money to be made there, except for a few shows.
Originally posted by gregmightdothat
I thought that got voted down?
They left Apple an out.
If Apple gets letters fron the content owners saying that they want the content sold by Apple to ONLY work with Fairplay, on devices Apple designates, Apple won't have to open up their eco-system. This goes for any other company as well.
Originally posted by slughead
I'd rather have the sci-fi network have stargate and atlantis on there. I haven't had cable or even a television since september of last year; it'd be nice to have some commercial-free shows available outside of bittorrent.
Ditto.
Originally posted by BRussell
It's too bad, but I think there are licensing issues that prevent it. These TV shows have probably just never considered the possibility of being shown in different countries. There's a lot of music in other countries' music stores that I'd like to get too. I bet they have a lot of incentive to sell them internationally though - with the flip of a switch, they could triple their market. So I think it will come once the lawyers get it figured out.
I'm not sure also what they'd do with the BBC in the UK. It could be that non-UK residents will get to buy BBC shows sold via iTunes before UK residents. The licence fee here in theory means that the shows should be free and that's the policy the BBC has adopted so far with their IP based TV services in the UK. I can't see Apple giving away free BBC programs. They could however sell classic programs as they do now on DVD.
Sky, ITV and Channel 4 here have been selling their shows online for some time via their websites but sadly, only to Windows DRM users. You can for example buy Lost, which is shown on Channel 4 here for 99p an episode - cheaper than from Apple in the USA.
Again, it's looking like Apple have missed the first boat but as has been shown so far, that doesn't mean they won't catch up quick.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
I'm not sure also what they'd do with the BBC in the UK. It could be that non-UK residents will get to buy BBC shows sold via iTunes before UK residents. The licence fee here in theory means that the shows should be free and that's the policy the BBC has adopted so far with their IP based TV services in the UK. I can't see Apple giving away free BBC programs. They could however sell classic programs as they do now on DVD.
Sky, ITV and Channel 4 here have been selling their shows online for some time via their websites but sadly, only to Windows DRM users. You can for example buy Lost, which is shown on Channel 4 here for 99p an episode - cheaper than from Apple in the USA.
Again, it's looking like Apple have missed the first boat but as has been shown so far, that doesn't mean they won't catch up quick.
We get BBC A here, at least on Time Warner. Of course it's not buying downloads, but it's interesting that the BBC does bring shows over. I've been watching HEX. There are some nutty shows there. I forget the name, but one has these two "friends?" competing. Really nutty
Originally posted by melgross
We get BBC A here, at least on Time Warner. Of course it's not buying downloads, but it's interesting that the BBC does bring shows over. I've been watching HEX. There are some nutty shows there. I forget the name, but one has these two "friends?" competing. Really nutty
HEX isn't a BBC product, it's a Sky TV show aka Fox aka Rupert Murdoch.
Not sure what other show you mean.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
HEX isn't a BBC product, it's a Sky TV show aka Fox aka Rupert Murdoch.
Not sure what other show you mean.
The intricacies of British television are too complex for us to totally understand over here, as I suppose is ours to you. All I know is that it's on BBC A, not Fox.
The show is Ed vs. Spenser.
Originally posted by melgross
The intricacies of British television are too complex for us to totally understand over here, as I suppose is ours to you. All I know is that it's on BBC A, not Fox.
The show is Ed vs. Spenser.
That's a Sky program too. So both the shows you like on BBC America, aren't actually by the BBC. :-)
I've not seen either since Sky TV involves having a satellite dish on the side of your house. A bit chavvy and I can't stand commercial TV anyway.
Originally posted by aegisdesign
That's a Sky program too. So both the shows you like on BBC America, aren't actually by the BBC. :-)
I've not seen either since Sky TV involves having a satellite dish on the side of your house. A bit chavvy and I can't stand commercial TV anyway.
Well, believe me, with Ed vs. Spencer, you're not missing anything, unless you like truely childish programming. Too bad that we also have great shows like this.
Originally posted by a_greer
Nobody watches E!.
I did when I had cable. The Soup is a brilliant program. I could never wait for the next time they'd make fun of Tyra or Entertainment Tonight.
Originally posted by CosmoNut
I did when I had cable. The Soup is a brilliant program. I could never wait for the next time they'd make fun of Tyra or Entertainment Tonight.
I used to watch the very early episodes of The Soup, like five or six years ago. It was very good back then. 8)
Originally posted by a_greer
If a tree falls and no one hears it, then it means nothing. Nobody watches E!.
Actually, lots of people do.