A design for an iCell

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Cell Computer Project



http://geocities.com/gene_technics/





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Mihail Molin



GeneTechnics Company
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  • Reply 1 of 23
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Scares me.



    Cool though.
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  • Reply 2 of 23
    Uhm, dude, you already HAVE a thread to promote your own designs,

    don't you think it would be better to just send your resume and portfolio to some cell phone manufacturers or design companies???

    Not meaning to put you down or anything, just don't think this is the right forum for this...
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  • Reply 3 of 23
    lustlust Posts: 83member
    Dude, the design sucks. Even my 2 year old sister would have trouble with those buttons.
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  • Reply 4 of 23
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,565moderator
    Can I have a P please Bob?



    Reminds me of the gameshow Blockbusters:



    http://www.ukgameshows.com/page/index.php/Blockbusters



    I actually thought I'd prefer devices with lots of small buttons but now I see that image, I'm not so sure.



    What you might want to look at is an intuitive input method like the ipod. Also, I don't know if you've ever played games like Jak & Daxter but one of those games had an incredibly intuitive text input and I got access to the whole alphabet using just the joystick. I was actually able to input text faster than using a phone because you don't have to time multiple presses. It was a 3D spiral type thing that showed on screen.



    Even a click wheel would work where it would accelerate through a list of characters and middle click selects it. I'm guessing it would be cheaper than multi-buttons too.
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  • Reply 5 of 23
    shady104shady104 Posts: 332member
    that picture has already made the rounds and they already make cell phones like that...heres just one example LG AX490
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  • Reply 6 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin


    Even a click wheel would work where it would accelerate through a list of characters and middle click selects it. I'm guessing it would be cheaper than multi-buttons too.



    In my post on this forum I'm offering a concept of network computer - iCell. It has also phone functionality by default (that's what has been discussed). The goal of the project - the full functionality of a notebook on the next level of compactness of a mobile computer in comparison, for example, with HP Jornada 720 (http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives...Jornada720.jpg, http://www.to-tech.com/mz/windowsce/hp720-review.html) and UMPCs.



    The cell computer has a sensor keyboard so there are no buttons - the width of the contact area of each key is equal to the width of the horizontal surface of the key of the standard computer keyboard - 12 mm. It's a compact realization of the US keyboard layout. This is the requirement for localization for any languages by the international standards, Chinese for example - http://www.customkeys.com/catalog_pa...K_Chinese.html.
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  • Reply 7 of 23
    Marvinmarvin Posts: 15,565moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    The goal of the project - the full functionality of a notebook on the next level of compactness of a mobile computer in comparison



    That would be great - I used to have a Psion palmtop and I thought it was really good in principle. But it just didn't do enough. The biggest problems are that you only get small flash storage and standard optical media is still too big. Not to mention flash has limited writes.



    I guess you could use drives like this:



    http://www.akibalive.com/archives/000478.html



    but I don't like the idea of standard hard drives in such portable devices. Solid state is the way to go IMO to save on heat, noise and power.
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  • Reply 8 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin


    That would be great - I used to have a Psion palmtop and I thought it was really good in principle. But it just didn't do enough. The biggest problems are that you only get small flash storage and standard optical media is still too big. Not to mention flash has limited writes.



    I guess you could use drives like this:



    http://www.akibalive.com/archives/000478.html



    but I don't like the idea of standard hard drives in such portable devices. Solid state is the way to go IMO to save on heat, noise and power.



    Yes, power consumption is the key - that concerns networks, storage and displays. And just a couple of years ago we bought CD-RWs, now one gigabyte of flash memory costs about thirty dollars with maximum compactness.
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  • Reply 9 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Marvin


    I actually thought I'd prefer devices with lots of small buttons but now I see that image, I'm not so sure.



    The cell computer has 8x8 mm keys (the extended contact area of 12 mm makes thumb typing possible additionally) - 2/3 of standard keys - it's an exactly enough size for typing on a sensor keyboard and even for touch-typing on a keyboard with ordinary buttons when a device is in a desktop position as for HP Jornada 720's keyboard - such design for the cell computer is also possible (the numeric keypad is flat and serves as a base for the keys with letters having 1 mm higher level and semi-round shape - such shape of keys is fit for thumb typing too). So both designs are optimized. And typing on a sensor keyboard - like on a UMPC's display - is preferable, it's more proof because the sensors might be significantly smaller than buttons and such typing is easier because it doesn't require put pressure on a key. And this is one-hand typing (according to the dimensions: HP Jornada has 189 x 95 mm, a cell computer - 54 x 98 mm).
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  • Reply 10 of 23
    Another comparison:



    The distance between sensors is 15 mm.



    HP Jornada 720: "Keyboard\tPitch 15 mm (compared to 20 mm full-size keyboard)"



    And because the pattern in HP Jornada 720's keyboard is exactly the same as of a standard computer keyboard:



    "It is possible to touch-type even though the keyboard is very small."



    http://www.to-tech.com/mz/windowsce/hp720-review.html



    And this pattern is hexagonal - the key to understanding the cell computer's design.
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  • Reply 11 of 23




    Go find a job and stop starting new threads to advertise yourself/your designs and then keep replying to yourself just so your thread stays on top of the page!!!



    You already have a thread on your, uhm "interesting" design. It is RIGHT HERE



    Just stop it! It is not gonna work!



    Place your portfolio on some other sites, There are plenty of websites specifically designed to advertise yourself to potential employers.



    THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!!



    I wish you good luck!
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  • Reply 12 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dutch pear






    Go find a job and stop starting new threads to advertise yourself/your designs and then keep replying to yourself just so your thread stays on top of the page!!!



    You already have a thread on your, uhm "interesting" design. It is RIGHT HERE



    Just stop it! It is not gonna work!



    Place your portfolio on some other sites, There are plenty of websites specifically designed to advertise yourself to potential employers.



    THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!!



    I wish you good luck!



    I make a cell computer for people so would you respect a community.



    If you don't want to discuss the technical questions just switch to the other thread.
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  • Reply 13 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    I make a cell computer for people so don't think for others - respect a community.



    If you don't want to discuss the technical questions just switch to the other thread.



    What dsoes this have to with the price of tea in China?
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  • Reply 14 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JPatrick


    What dsoes this have to with the price of tea in China?



    Would you respect a community, please.
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  • Reply 15 of 23
    dac0nvudac0nvu Posts: 175member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    I make a cell computer for people so would you respect a community.



    If you don't want to discuss the technical questions just switch to the other thread.



    Um, excuse me, but do you work for Apple? Make Apple products? This forum is Future Hardware. "Focused discussion and speculation about future Apple hardware." Perhaps your thread would be betters suited in General Discussion. "General tech discussion, including purchasing advice and industry trends."

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  • Reply 16 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dac0nvu


    Um, excuse me, but do you work for Apple? Make Apple products? This forum is Future Hardware. "Focused discussion and speculation about future Apple hardware." Perhaps your thread would be betters suited in General Discussion. "General tech discussion, including purchasing advice and industry trends."





    No objections. But is it so important for the existing discussion when so many people have replied to me in this thread genuinely interested the project and I have posted my replies to them.
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  • Reply 17 of 23
    dac0nvudac0nvu Posts: 175member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    ...when so many people have replied to me in this thread genuinely interested the project...



    Hmmm...better go back and read those posts. Out of 17 posts, I count 1, maybe 2 that showed a genuine interest.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    Would you respect a community, please.



    I think the question is would YOU respect this community please and post your threads in the appropriate forum?
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  • Reply 18 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dac0nvu


    Hmmm...better go back and read those posts. Out of 17 posts, I count 1, maybe 2 that showed a genuine interest.





    I think the question is would YOU respect this community please and post your threads in the appropriate forum?



    Over 600 views means many people. I can't imagine how I'm not respecting people if I offer my idea for them and ask for their opinions politely. And I offer it for Apple too, if someone here is working for this company. AppleInsider is an independent forum.
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  • Reply 19 of 23
    dac0nvudac0nvu Posts: 175member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    Over 600 views means many people. I can't imagine how I'm not respecting people if I offer my idea for them and ask their opinions politely. And I offer it for Apple too, if someone here is working for this company. AppleInsider is an independent forum.



    Over 600 views means over 600 people clicked on the link. It does NOT mean "...so many people have replied to me in this thread genuinely interested the project..."



    The thread got over 600 views and managed to get 7 or 8 replies, mostly berating you for inappropriate posting.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gene_technics


    I can't imagine how I'm not respecting people if I offer my idea for them and ask for their opinions politely.



    Then I suggest re-reading the posting guidelines and specifically the guidelines for Future Hardware. You are not Apple, your product is not an Apple product. Just because you are posting politely doesn't mean it is appropriate to post your own design ideas/product idea in the Future Hardware forum. Get over it dude. Just post in the approriate place.
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  • Reply 20 of 23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dac0nvu


    Over 600 views means over 600 people clicked on the link. It does NOT mean "...so many people have replied to me in this thread genuinely interested the project..."



    The thread got over 600 views and managed to get 7 or 8 replies, mostly berating you for inappropriate posting.





    Then I suggest re-reading the posting guidelines and specifically the guidelines for Future Hardware. You are not Apple, your product is not an Apple product. Just because you are posting politely doesn't mean it is appropriate to post your own design ideas/product idea in the Future Hardware forum. Get over it dude. Just post in the approriate place.



    We're discussing a proposed Apple's product - a mobile device having phone functionality. iCell is one of the names proposed to it.
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