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  • Reply 21 of 36
    Kickaha - I want to take this once in a lifetime opportunity to say "STFU noob". Now then, lucky you with these hardlinks. Mind sharing how this works for us people whose brains are merely hung like ponies or very large dogs?
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  • Reply 22 of 36
    mac_dollmac_doll Posts: 527member
    I love it. It gives me peace of mind. Of course, I can see how it's a problem for folks who have things to hide.



    Phil Schiller is my homeboy. 8)
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  • Reply 23 of 36
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Apple's already got features like Secure Delete and Private Browsing built-in at a very useable level. There is sure to be something similar for Time Machine. Perhaps an evolution of the existing privacy features.
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  • Reply 24 of 36
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Chucker


    It's not journaling, but snapshotting that would be required, and HFS+ currently doesn't feature. I, too, hope that Time Machine is a new HFS+ snapshot feature plus binary diffs.



    (In a nutshell, journaling keeps track of the fact that changes to the file system happen, and where; not to what in particular those changes are. You cannot restore data with journaling; you can merely keep the file system in a workable state by undoing failed actions.)



    What is the substantive difference between the way Apple's Backup saves files versus Time Machine? I have a rudimentary understanding of how Backup works.
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  • Reply 25 of 36
    chuckerchucker Posts: 5,089member
    I don't know the actual details of how Time Machine works, so I'd only be guessing (and wishful thinking). Unless JLL wants to break his NDA again, we probably won't know for a while.



    What we do know is that Backup is designed to archive specific pieces of data, whereas Time Machine is for the entire hard drive, including the operating system, with very few exceptions (such as caches). In that sense, Time Machine can be used in a way akin to Windows System Restore, but because it can also applied to single files, it's more powerful.



    Time Machine lets application developers specify exceptions, but it also lets them implement their own UI snap-in for Time Machine. We saw this with Address Book, for example, where it wasn't just a file per se that was being restored, but an actual contact (under the hood, it's still a vCard .vcs file, but it's presented with all its contents easily readable).
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  • Reply 26 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mac_Doll


    I love it. It gives me peace of mind. Of course, I can see how it's a problem for folks who have things to hide.



    Phil Schiller is my homeboy. 8)



    :cough:PrOn:cough:
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  • Reply 27 of 36
    Honestly - this is why we have a multi-user system. Dad should have his account, mom should have hers, and the kids a joint one (or one each). The most valid reason for this is to allow everyone to have their stuff pre-set-up on their account (IM, web controls, email client). The bonus reason is user-only apps (keep the kids away from disk-utility or keep little Suzy off of teen Bobby's video games).



    The real reason is separate files - keep the kids out of the finances (and the wife out of the Pr0n). Time Machine won't change this. If someone has access to your account, you should be worried even if you erased stuff (unless you used Secure Delete). If they have access to your back-up drive, you're screwed no matter what you erased. Your options are to not keep back-ups, or just not back-up the bad stuff. Or back up almost everything with Time Machine, but your "bad stuff" through another method (hidden USB key in air duct, DVD-R, etc.)
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  • Reply 28 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZachPruckowski


    (and the wife out of the Pr0n)



    Hey, did you ever think maybe the wife likes Pr0n?
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  • Reply 29 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ZachPruckowski


    The real reason is separate files - keep the kids out of the finances (and the wife out of the Pr0n). Time Machine won't change this. If someone has access to your account, you should be worried even if you erased stuff (unless you used Secure Delete). If they have access to your back-up drive, you're screwed no matter what you erased. Your options are to not keep back-ups, or just not back-up the bad stuff. Or back up almost everything with Time Machine, but your "bad stuff" through another method (hidden USB key in air duct, DVD-R, etc.)



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  • Reply 30 of 36
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
    You might also want to use one of these for your own Time Machine backups... http://www.radtech.us/Products/Impact35Encrypted.aspx
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  • Reply 31 of 36
    And then write on the side in marker "Dad's Porn".
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  • Reply 32 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b3ns0n


    And then write on the side in marker "Dad's Porn".



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  • Reply 33 of 36
    murkmurk Posts: 935member
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  • Reply 34 of 36
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Haha, wins.
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  • Reply 35 of 36
    This thread is worthless without pics!



    (as long as Placebo's going for the fark reference, I'll take a stab at one)
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  • Reply 36 of 36
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by glurx View Post


    I suppose regular backups are a gift to authorities in the war on terror also. Don't backup, for the love of god, don't backup.



    Use encryption.



    Any file you wouldn't like to see printed on the front page of the New York Times should be encrypted.



    Lord, if only people's hard drive contents were that interesting.



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